Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #32

[blueberryjam]

Again, it does not say that. The wording is very specific, as it should be. It says (in the screenshot you yourself posted): "This was the last communication anyone had with the subject." (Emphasis mine.) Not "from her phone," but "with the subject" meaning communication with Gabby herself.

You are debating from the same side. Do you both realise you are saying the same thing, just in different ways.

 

[donotreply]

Oh, I see that now. Still - do you think that pic looks like Brian?

sorta-I look at eyebrows and ears 'cause those can't be disguised easily. I DO think though that a dude on the run would be wearing his mask in the correct position ALL THE TIME as a added layer of disguise. Saying that, I now will have to take a second look at every skinny white bald guy wearing a mask properly! What a pain to look even remotely like him. 5 people have told me last year that I look like Lori Vallow.

My $$ is on Cuba though or that he's long dead.

 

[blueberryjam]

Catching him alive doesn't mean her family will get the full truth. MOO

Well they definitely wont if he is dead

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I think you'd be surprised to find out how honorable many homeless really are.

I wouldn’t be surprised at all. My little brother was one of them. RIP Mikey…

 

[ZoriahNZ]

The search warrant is dated the 14th of September. in the closing paragraphs it states that the phone has been turned off for approx 15 days.

 

[Keyedin]

Again, it does not say that. The wording is very specific, as it should be. It says (in the screenshot you yourself posted): "This was the last communication anyone had with the subject." (Emphasis mine.) Not "from her phone," but "with the subject" meaning communication with Gabby herself.

It literally says her phone was no longer operational.

 

[customCF]

It may have been released to Gabby's parents. LE had said there was no evidence of a crime after they seized it, so I don't think anything of value was found. We don't know that for sure, but I think if they had found something significant, like blood, they would have obtained a search warrant right away. Imo

Go back and re-watch the original presser with the NPPD. The chief slips and almost says murder instead of missing. I think they may have known from the start. IMO

 

[PommyMommy]

North Port Police on Twitter
Search for Brian Laundrie continues in the Carlton Reserve Friday.

[URL='https://twitter.com/NorthPortPolice/status/1441391849864716289']9:19 AM · Sep 24, 2021·Twitter for iPhone[/URL]

 

[unfeatheredbird]

GP didn't seem to have a lot of physical abuse signs displayed in her shared social media (e.g., bruises, scratches, scars, etc). It did look like she had bags under her eyes or maybe swollen eyes indicating post-crying (e.g., perhaps indicating that it was so normal for her that she didn't think it was abnormal to look like she had been crying). It looks to me like there was a lot of emotional domestic violence. I am 50 now, but I remember in my early 20s in college knowing people that preyed on each other mentally - without any physical abuse.

My speculative guess is that they had yet another fight where he was emotionally manipulating her feelings, she fell for it _again_, she physically responded, he ran across the creek, she followed, and fate took its course (e.g., he snapped).

My speculative guess is that the "van life" was more likely the "pressure cooker life" for emotionally juvenile individuals on the edge of desperation.

Looking at the police footage and the witness accounts I just see two young fragile individuals who were codependent on each other and who were documenting a false life. Social media is quite the oddity. Within the pressure cooker of their tiny van and having to document a fake existence, the pressures of honesty got to be too much.

I doubt the murder was premeditated. My speculation is that he lost control and ended her life. He probably looks at it like an accident. Truly a tragedy borne out of naive juvenile minds.

I'm perplexed by my own interest in this story. In my early 20s I traveled with the Grateful Dead tours which is not dissimilar from a "van life." We lived out of vans and went to different cites every couple of days. Maybe its nostalgia for me. I also have 3 daughters who are about the same age. Maybe that's it.

Either way I find determining the moral of this tragedy to be equally perplexing. The perils of social media? The perils of codependency? The perils of life on the road? The perils of existing in your early 20s with no plan for the future? The perils of finding America in your youth?

I just keep hearing her say "juice bar" to the police officer and it hits me hard. She was _so_ young...

THIS ^^^^^^^

I'm a True Crime follower and have an advanced degree in Psychology and have worked in that field on and off for years. I am always interested in what makes people behave the way they do. As with OP I was also a "van life" person before that was a thing, traveling to and from Burning Man in the way early days 20+ years ago from East to West coast and living in a van and camping much of that time with my boyfriend (now husband). So on those levels this case has drawn me in. But the reality of the situation is that these were two very emotionally immature, young people (as most of us are/were in our 20s), with the added pressure of trying to "make it" and have a "perfect" Instagram lifestyle. I think reading more into just adds layers of unnecessary complication to a rather simple and common situation (domestic violence). It's awful that they just didn't separate when he went back to visit Florida, lots of what ifs here.

 

[samanthadaniels1995]

So, we know the van was parked at the Spread Creek camp area. We have witnesses that helped Laundries travel along the road around the Jackson area and the Spread Creek camp area.

I wonder why he didn't bring attention to Gabby ?

It would seem that the alibi of camping in the wilderness and being surprised that Gabby was missing upon his return would require that he call authorities for help to find her.

Instead, he drove off with her van, used her debit card, and came home, refused to speak to authorities, has parent's lawyer, and then disappears.

We have reports from the drivers that picked up Laundrie that he spoke about camping in an isolated area along the Snake river and Gabby was writing her blog.

So, might we expect a dialog from Gabby mentioning the wilderness trip while she stayed in the van ? We would expect that Gabby would have dropped him off and picked him up rather than Laundrie needing to hitchhike ? Their cellphones worked in the area. Especially, a camping area.

Laundrie left Gabby in a field, left the camp site, left home, did not get involved with her search.

And Cain said to Abel his brother, "Let us go out to the field," and when they were in the field Cain rose against Abel his brother and killed him. And the Lord said to Cain, "Where is Abel your brother? And he said, "I do not know: am I my brother's keeper?" And He said, "What have you done? Listen!

 

[sleepysleuth]

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The FBI is heavily tracking them and I think it's highly unlikely that they haven't done something / will do something that will warrant charges. If they don't get charged with anything, I would suspect it's because they strike a deal, not because it serves no real purpose.

 

[Keyedin]

I’m looking for it now!

I swear I have seen a screenshot somewhere, but I cannot find it. After the iPad was brought up, I was interested in seeing what color the message bubbles were.

 

[Mom24]

If I understand correctly, the police trailed them to and from Orlando. Not sure they could see BL unless he was in the lawyer's office.

The Laundries may not have known they were going to be followed all that distance.

 

[Painting Parties]

I think you'd be surprised to find out how honorable many homeless really are.

Oh yeah. They would give him up in a minute.

 

[LauraAnne]

North Port Police on Twitter
Search for Brian Laundrie continues in the Carlton Reserve Friday.

9:19 AM · Sep 24, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

They certainly appear to be sure he's there.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

It literally says her phone was no longer operational.

My guess is that they were speaking generally there. If you're going by the wording, they specify phone has been off since the 31st of August.

 

[zucchinibread]

I swear I have seen a screenshot somewhere, but I cannot find it. After the iPad was brought up, I was interested in seeing what color the message bubbles were.

It was a grey message, screenshot from Gabby’s mom’s phone. It wouldn’t matter if he sent it from her iPad or her iPhone, the color of the message chain would still be blue/grey.

 

[x_files]

I think you're right. He isn't this 'mastermind fugitive' he's being framed as. He's a 23 year old who freaked out.

His parents aren't wealthy, he can't run for long. I believe he has killed himself in the reserve.

Do we know for a fact his parents aren't wealthy or have savings?
It's possible they had a savings account set aside for BL to attend college could be from 20-200k for all we know.
LE should know this info by now though.

 

[Veronica Sawyer]

I saw in an earlier thread somebody was talking about a site where it looked like selling Gabby's stuff? Any body know where that was or what I am referencing

Gabby sold clothes and stuff on Depop.

 

[Gardenista]

I watched this last night and thought it was a good show.