Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #36

[jjonez]

Things that are nagging at me this am as I dive back in:
-page 9 of external hard drive warrant. Have I missed anything or anything newly revealed about sept 16? The aug 31 dateline on the final signature, mistake or have I missed something?
-I want to revisit the search/seizure warrant for the van. I believe it was released the same day as the external hard drive warrant. I’ve lost track of it. Anybody have a link?
-are yesterday’s last seen on foot mentions by DTBH and others referring to the thermal news footage, statements we heard earlier in the case, or something the public is has not been made privy to?
-rose. I have so many thoughts about rose, not fully formed. And I still haven’t had time to watch latest footage in entirety
-the most nagging of all. Based on no fact whatsoever, just my gut. I’ve been thinking since rereading the media timeline a couple days ago that BL did or said something to let GP’s mother/parents know that he did something to GP. Last night I had the disturbing thought that it was a picture sent by text on GP’s phone, accidental or otherwise. I sat up in bed at 3 something am with the thought that it was the Apple Watch. I don’t know if they take pictures, if not maybe a voice message. I speculate was taken and sent. Was BL beating or killing her and had her by the wrist, accidentally sending this message or photo?

Also the incident on the 10th related to laundrie address. If it was a welfare check. What did LE see or hear etc

 

[bellyup]

I'm not saying others wouldn't do it, I'm saying that I don't think HE would. and that's just my opinion. Also, they were in an undesignated camping spot, supposedly witnessed parking there on the 26th and they left on the 27th to drive an hour out to get commercialism restaurant food and then come back and park in the exact same undesignated spot? It just doesn't work for me. So, like I said, if there's proof, then I'd be like, "well, wow. I guess they did do it. that's crazy." but without proof, it's a piece of the puzzle that's hard to make fit.

IMO you’re putting too much into BLs “anti commercialism” stance.

I’d say a large number of people his age (probably even the majority) are at least to some degree anti capitalism / anti commercialism but they are all also aware that it’s extremely difficult to completely avoid it in today’s world. So instead they try to limit patronage and participation in such things. On the outside it often seems hypocritical or contrary but if you talk to them like I said it’s more about limiting and not “never participating” bc realistically the latter is near impossible.

 

[Freth]

Yes!!!!

Did you ever watch the video by those 4 body language experts that someone posted in here a few days ago? It was absolutely fascinating what extra cues they were able to pick up from both BL and GP.

I watched their whole video. They missed the abuse body language altogether and received a backlash in the comments section.

 

[Aquariusgemz]

They had no choice but to follow Utah law and procedures. It wasn't their fault. Certainly not Officer Robbins and Ranger Hull's who appeared to do all they could to diffuse a situation, which appeared, a mental health crisis.

And before anyone says "ohhh but he was all buddy with him at the end to the motel", dude was just being friendly and polite.

IMO the police situation did give him more power. Not that the police did anything explicitly wrong. I believe they handled it the best they could with the information given. The reason I think it gave him more power is because he was able to manipulate everyone in the situation and come out looking like the level headed victim.

 

[Purplepixii]

Not necessarily. *If* and please note it's *if* he has a condition that requires regulation, it might not have manifested until his late teens / early 20's. It is my amateur understanding that this would be consistent with certain conditions. If accurate, some folks wouldn't have experienced what GP allegedly did. Further, it isn't uncommon for friends of offenders to state they are shocked by allegations, and that he is the "nicest guy".

All amateur opinion and speculation

I know exactly what you’re saying here and completely agree, I did some googling on the subject yesterday and it would fit what little we know of BL.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Where are your tissues? Keep them close today…
Gabby Petito - Moloney Family Funeral Homes


Petito, 22, was seen smiling with family members and exploring the outdoors in dozens of photos that were compiled in a montage on Moloney’s Holbrook Funeral Home’s website.

Photos showed a younger Petito as a flower girl as well as on trips with relatives to the Bahamas and Niagara Falls.

The 28-minute video includes many memories throughout the years with her father and stepmother, Joe and Tara Petito, and mother and stepfather, Nichole and Jim Schmidt.

“Gabby Petito 1999-2021,” said a message
Gabby Petito memorial video shows scenes from childhood

 

[Lillymac]

Wyoming is a state that allows an insanity defense. See collage of screenshots from link below to understand more.

The Insanity Defense Among the States - FindLaw

Yes your right. That's where I got my info from. State of Wyoming.

 

[captdj]

Honestly the FBI reviewing restaurant footage from when Brian was home makes me think that his parents probably didn’t know about the murder when he arrived on Sep 1st but found out later once her parents began contacting… Do we REALLY think they’d be going out to eat casually and normally just waiting for her missing poster to appear?

Nothing off the table, I guess. Maybe, if they did know, it was much safer to act totally normal and draw no evidence to changed behaviors. But what a weird scenario?

Maybe they meant this report in Mobile
Brian Laundrie possibly spotted in Alabama

The WAFF 48 News Digital Team confirmed with a restaurant in Mobile that police officers were asking for security footage after reports that Laundrie was seen in the Tillman’s Corner area. The restaurant said that officers came by and said they were going to another restaurant that Laundrie was reportedly seen eating at.

 

[cady]

Also the incident on the 10th related to laundrie address. If it was a welfare check. What did LE see or hear etc

Was it a welfare check pertaining to Gabby, since that was her residence before the trip? jmo

 

[Newsjunkiejen]

Going to give a generous statement of possibility:

I strongly, angrily, emotionally believe the parents did a lot wrong at the *very* beginning by not being contientous and checking in with Gabby’s parents when he returned without her on the 1st. That was the first mistake.

It’s possible Brian had concocted a brilliant tale about she left early and flew home to her parents blahblah so they felt no need to check, but given that she lived there, and they didn’t follow-up with that and ensure she was home or check in with her parents (or her!), that is a BIG flaw, in my opinion.

If they got the lawyer day 1, then everything after the fact is also entirely their fault for not helping AT ALL to allow the situation to evolve in a proper sense. Because that means they saw the trouble, knew what happened or didn’t know what happened but knew SOMETHING happened (say, for example, BL got home and was all out of sorts and wouldn’t talk to them or having an “episode”) and said NOTHING and alerted NO ONE and checked in with NO ONE with only their protection in mind.

But, let’s say they genuinely thought Gabby was A-OK and accounted for safely until they heard from her parents on Sep 10th. Can’t imagine not responding just to say “wow, we are just hearing about this, we are so sorry let us look into” yadda yadda. But they don’t, they realize something is very wrong by the look on Brian’s face, and they lawyer up. Phew it’s bad already.

My generosity comes in with what happens now (and this is all assuming they *didn’t help* him after the fact except for hiring a lawyer):

I think all the speculation about how the parents should or shouldn’t be handling this right now are sometimes considered without much consideration about what their actual options are. They don’t have many good options. They can’t really win. They probably are staying silent because they’re the most hated people in America. Their son ruined their lives, too. Maybe they don’t really care what happens to him now….it’s already all done with, as far as they’re concerned. He got himself into this mess and he can get himself out. They don’t even know how to help get him out, they don’t know where he is. They can’t bring Gabby back and they don’t want to be involved with what he did, they want to wipe their hands of connection with him. “He’s missing” is the only thing that they’re willing to do at this point. Maybe that’s what they’re thinking — distance themselves. And they can’t say anything publicly because of their legal representation is telling them not to, and their lawyer sucks and has made them look guiltier than ever. And they’re smart enough to know anything they say now, it’s too late. So they say nothing and hope that Brian sorts this all out somehow. They may hope he is dead, even. They may hate him for this more than we could ever imagine. And want out of all of it more than we could ever imagine. They may not know much, other than it’s become clear their son did something horrific to someone he and they cared about, and there’s no going back. They might think appealing for him to come back is pointless, and that they don’t owe him their support.

If BL is as narcissistic and manipulative and abusive and volatile as some people here think, they could have suffered from that with him too, and also be somewhat victims in this. Lied to, used, abandoned.

Keep in mind that this opinion is coming from a place of keeping an open mind about what the situation they’re in actually looks and feels like. We don’t know what’s going on in their heads and while we can know that they played this wrong AT THE BEGINNING, I don’t know whether we can firmly say they’re playing it wrong now. They may not be playing anything, if they didn’t help him, they’re just in this mess and resentful and really can’t do anything to help the situation except hide in their home. I’m not defending them and I don’t personally believe they are that innocent or naive to the facts of the case, but if they didn’t have a big part to play in a “coverup” or aiding escape, then they may just be anxiously waiting for law enforcement to find him like the rest of us. And if they aren’t the criminal helpers we have been assuming, we can be sure this is the most devastating and emotionally trying situation of their lives. They may not be careless and evil, but rather devastated and broken by it all.

Anyways, just wanted to say that. Because while at times I am boldly assuming they are the bad guys and criminally aiding him, other times I think they’re wrapped in a terrible situation with bad legal advice and they made terrible careless and callous mistakes at the beginning not to talk to her family but that could be the end of their involvement.

I have been mulling the situation with the Laundries over and over in my head.

Are they inherently bad people? Are they remorseful about not responding to GP's family? Are they putting on a brave front the second they step out of their front door but absolutely falling apart behind scenes away from the cameras? Is their reaction - completely void of all emotion - indicative of them being cold hearted sociopaths, or are they trying to keep up some steely resolve so they don't go to pieces?

I have a complete kaleidoscope of emotions regarding them! My gut feels SO angry at them, but then I think are they doing what any parent would do?

I'm not a parent, but if there's one thing I hear often from parents it's:

"I'd do anything for my child"

"My children are my world and come before everyone and everything"

"I'd die for my child/take a bullet for my child/go to prison for my child"

Where do we draw the line between a parent's natural instinct to protect their child, no matter what, and doing the right thing in the eyes of the law, the general public, and the grieving, pleading parents of your child's missing girlfriend!?

I'd be interested to know people's thoughts on this, particularly from parents..

 

[oviedo]

wait im confused, there is a service for gabby in both FL and NY today?

@PingTheRouter livestream which is in New York
ETA
Malique Rankin WTSP on Twitter(Video)
The memorial for Gabby Petito at North Port City Hall.
11:14 AM · Sep 26, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

 

[Katerz]

Where are your tissues? Keep them close today…
Gabby Petito - Moloney Family Funeral Homes

I’m already cryin and it’s just people going in

 

[PingTheRouter]

do you think the FBI visit to the Laundire's this morning was to caution them to stay away from the memorial service?

my understanding is Northport city hall is hosting the livestream which is in New York

Oh ok that makes more sense, i was so confused about the Northport bit

 

[cady]

Yes your right. That's where I got my info from. State of Wyoming.

This is a Federal Case. jmo

 

[x_files]

I watched their whole video. They missed the abuse body language altogether and received a backlash in the comments section.

LE missed BIG RED FLAGS that was obvious she was being emotionally, verbally, and physically controlled and abused.
She said BL GRABBED her, pushed her. Took her phone, locked her out of the van. Took the van keys from her, and the van belonged to her.
That's enough right there.

 

[TCJonkey]

IMO you’re putting too much into BLs “anti commercialism” stance.

I’d say a large number of people his age (probably even the majority) are at least to some degree anti capitalism / anti commercialism but they are all also aware that it’s extremely difficult to completely avoid it in today’s world. So instead they try to limit patronage and participation in such things. On the outside it often seems hypocritical or contrary but if you talk to them like I said it’s more about limiting and not “never participating” bc realistically the latter is near impossible.

I agree with what you're saying about this being the typical stance with these "type" of people, but I do honestly think he's an exception. He strikes me as the type who built his identity off of these beliefs and this tended to make him staunch about it. This thought also lent itself to make me have another thought that I stated; if he did acquiesce and go to the restaurant, he would have been sitting there stewing about how he was sitting among inferior pigs. This would have had him building into a rage. MOO

A lot of thoughts on this one.

 

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Gabby Petito Memorial Visitation Moloney's Holbrook

Gabby Petito Memorial Visitation Moloney’s Holbrook LIVE

sorry if duplicate post

 

[Newsjunkiejen]

do you think the FBI visit to the Laundire's this morning was to caution them to stay away from the memorial service?

I can't imagine for one minute that they'd even dare attend!

MOO

 

[HMSHood]

Yes, he lived in a house his parents owned in Bayport (added to my map).

Thank you Citizen_Sleuth. I am beginning to think that Brian Landrie is an injustice collector.

Psybersquare: Injustice Collectors

 

[bellyup]

Unless something else has come out lately, the restarant manager said that they were there. But did not explain proof of credit cards, etc, and did not specifically say it was the 2 of them in the altercation. She said they were very busy. I find it, as you do, so unlikely that they would return to that forlorn spot.

I’m guessing neither of you are vegetarians?
It can be really difficult to find vegetarian food in some areas. At best it’s small cafes and juice bars. Finding a hot full meal vegetarian style isnt easy. Most people who live vegetarian often note places that have what they need and will travel to get to them. I just googled “vegetarian food in grand Teton” and got very few nearby results that wouldn’t require a 30+ minute drive.
I think they were at Merry Piglets. It’s has a reputation for having great vegetarian options and is often a place that non veggies will tell vegetarians if they ask where they can go.
That’s why I have been there.