Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #45

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  • #441
Because the parents were negotiating with people on where he could hide and what the legal situation was and if they could get someone to obfuscate. Without a place to go when he gets there (Can, NY , whatever ) he's a fish out of water, He has no job and no ID he can use. He'd be picked up within a few days.

Between the 9-10th after the return from deSoto park, they were mulling options. Then the police welfare visit came on the evening of the 10th , about 6pm. That put the wind up them. Brian had to go. Just my take on it.
Right, so in that scenario, Mom and Dad knew early on that she was dead. That's the only way it makes sense.
 
  • #442
Is it nearing the time when the very last people who , as far as is known, saw Brian alive are being seen as possible perpetrators, and not just by standers??.

This is only if one accepts that Brian is not alive, which I do, I don't see him with enough smarts, either physically or psychologically to be expertly escaping this kind of full on search, by LE, Bounty people, and the general public at large.

I merely put this out there, as , while improbable, it is not impossible.
I'd certainly be interested in knowing all of their movements from when they returned from that camping 'trip' until they announced he had disappeared.
ALL of them.
Hopefully many neighbours have cctv that retains footage.
 
  • #443
May I say something?

This has struck such a nerve with me. The body cam video broke my heart. I am horrified anyone saw anything but a terrified woman. I avoid true crime stories. Most trigger me, but this one, while triggering me immencly, This whole case has consumed me. I think it may strike a nerve with a lot of women, which is why this case has struck a chord with so many people. It is honestly very depressing a heartbreaking.
Absolutely! I’ve said this before, but I’m gonna say it again....

We know for a FACT that Brian can be violent. ( police cam & the 911 call)
He abused her in broad daylight, in front of witnesses.

Now, can you imagine what he could do to her while no one was around?

I can.... and this is why we are here trying to get justice for Gabby, and Brian is nowhere to be found! MOO
 
  • #444
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1/2 North Port Police say the reports on Sept. 10 relate to the Petito family reporting Gabby missing. "We were working with the family to get them to report the issue where it needed to be reported at. We were simply not the right outlet to report a person missing...
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Police were called to the Laundrie house two times the day before Gabby Petito was reported missing. Reports attached. Police redacted the narratives. Reports say: "Problem Settled"
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2/2 ...out of another state. Per policy and Florida State statute, the missing person should be reported missing where they’re last known location was." - Josh Taylor, North Port PD.

Say what? Not the right outlet to report a missing person? Doesn't that header up there say "Police department?"
 
  • #445
Personally, I think if Gabby was so low on self esteem she wouldn't have been fighting him for her phone, climbing over him in the van. She would have dociley stood there and let him take her phone and slap her around. Been compliant.

I think Gabby was a strong young woman ... be it feeling quite mentally beaten down - at the time - from spending so much time alone with BL in recent weeks.

I agree that she was strong. She was independent and had put up with him for a long time and just accepted his faults and still loved him. On this trip she was likely exasperated with his behavior and treatment of her. MOO
 
  • #446
Oh boy, the last time I wrote about the police "incident" on the 10th I had a handful of WS's correct me and ask me why I was bringing something up that was debunked. Welcome back to the real world. If it was simply a welfare check, they would not be so heavily redacted. IMO MOO

Well, they're not debunked now are they. The evidence of those calls is plain for all to see.

I was wondering if neighbours heard whiting or screaming and called LE to do a welfare check, but none of those neighbours have since given statements or told the press and media about it, so I don't think it was them.

So, back to BL's parents. I wonder if BL was having a catastrophic meltdown and they feared for his well-being and also their own?
 
  • #447
I thought about that but hitchhiking from the van dump doesn't work either because it creates witnesses. He's screwed no matter what. Driving the van home buys him time to run, but then he didn't use it. Why didn't he nope out as soon as he got back to FL? Just all kinds of WTF?

That is exactly what I think he did. Dipped long before anyone realized Gabby was gone. Don’t believe his parents’ timeline.
 
  • #448
Witnesses would actually have been helpful in this scenario - he has a trail of witnesses to support his story about bugging out of the campsite and hitchhikking his way to the airport alone. He doesn't know what happened to Gabby after he left. It's still a better plan than what he actually did.

And yes, this whole thing is really WTF?

JMO
You could be right. Maybe that was his plan and Mom talked him out of it.
 
  • #449
I wonder how valuable DNA evidence will be, IF IF IF it's Brian's, because he and Gabby were very close and surely his DNA will be everywhere. Unless he's found and is actually guilty and admits it, it would be tough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is guilty. Running off, refusing to answer, etc., is all the hallmark of someone with poor skills also, not just the actions of a guilty person. My PERSONAL opinion of course leans very much that he is likely the perp, but if he never is found or confesses, I don't see this "solved" beyond a reasonable doubt. Unless the COD points to him exclusively. Sad situation. Maybe a cold case in the making, but I hope not.
 
  • #450
Perhaps the reason for the FBI visit today was for proof that he was in that camper at all on Sept. 6-8.
 
  • #451
1. Yes, i believe BL killed GP.
2. I think the night of August 29th-night of 30th. I believe he left quickly after what he did I cannot see him staying with her body after he killed him
3. I think the relationship was degenerating. They were getting on each other’s nerves. BL was taking increasingly more walks and trips from campsite alone. I think they were going to be breaking up
4. I think they got into a fight that got physical, and BL went too far accidentally. I do not believe he intended to kill her
5. He was not a highly motivated person in terms of being self sufficient. Not ambitious , still living with parents, not really that smart or interested in education. Immature. A coward. But not a person who came off as mean or horrid to those who knew him. His friend and even GP’s parents did not see anything terrible s out him.
 
  • #452
I'm so sorry for Gabby. She was a true light. And now she is gone.
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  • #453
Agree fully with your 5) - great insights. In so many ways everyone who answered has said the same thing in multiple ways for 5) adding different ways of saying he was a spoiled <modsnip> who couldn’t handle the real world or how others saw him. Fragile ego and low self-esteem that culminated in severe personality disorders.

Yes, and I think need for validation, to be right, and to have attention. I think a big contention that whole trip was that he thought she couldn't do it and wanted to be proven right that she couldn't do it. And the harder she tried to make the vlog thing work, the more he sabotaged it. And it's not fun being on that trip when she's always editing, telling him to pose, etc.

It was probably a mix of all that, plus Gabby is a crier. He might have seen that as weak and the more she did it, the more he loathed her.
 
  • #454
May I say something?

This has struck such a nerve with me. The body cam video broke my heart. I am horrified anyone saw anything but a terrified woman. I avoid true crime stories. Most trigger me, but this one, while triggering me immencly, This whole case has consumed me. I think it may strike a nerve with a lot of women, which is why this case has struck a chord with so many people. It is honestly very depressing a heartbreaking.
I think many people saw themselves, before they really understood how dangerous their situation was.
20/20 hindsight- there is no mistaking it.
Gabby is making a difference. She IS AN INFLUENCER!
That was her dream and her legacy.
MOO
 
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  • #455
But not a person who came off as mean or horrid to those who knew him. His friend and even GP’s parents did not see anything terrible s out him.
Snipped for focused reply.

They rarely do.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #456
Oh boy, the last time I wrote about the police "incident" on the 10th I had a handful of WS's correct me and ask me why I was bringing something up that was debunked. Welcome back to the real world. If it was simply a welfare check, they would not be so heavily redacted. IMO MOO
Reasons why they might be so readacted.

1. A Guess - Nobody was home on the 11th (pm) so they knocked and just went away after no reply . The police towed the vehicle on the 11th. (the Van) ... we don't know what time. The welfare check on the 11th was late afternoon if you believe the police bumpf.

2. A Guess - Robera Laundrie was the only person who answered (nobody else at home). If so, this is VERY significant but the LE there did not know what the hell was going on in the big picture. ALso she might have lied to them in a way that is transparent now but was not to the contact officers so the PD wants to save face.

3. The police may have noted only one car , the Mustang in the drive way and made a standard note of cars at the property (the Gabby van should have been towed by this time of day on the 11th). NOW it would be a huge warning bell if the Dodge and Campertop were gone again , but the responding LE would possibly have had no idea of the significance - or if they did, did not action it.

There's a lot to redact .....

Kidon Gadol
 
  • #457
I get that they were both adults in the eyes of the law. But … what were they doing? Really? <modsnip> So young. Too young for “#vanlife” — too young to be living together — my parents would’ve killed me.
 
  • #458
In my experience, number 5 has not frequently been true, whether it's positive or negative treatment. I've seen some men treat their mothers like gold but treat the woman in his life like boo and vice versa. I'm not saying it never happens that they treat the female like they treat their mothers. But I've just seen a lot of varying treatment in those cases.
You have misunderstood, IMO. Number 5 is not about how they treat their mothers, it is about how their fathers treated their mothers.
 
  • #459
Brian Entin @BrianEntin 34s

1/2 North Port Police say the reports on Sept. 10 relate to the Petito family reporting Gabby missing. "We were working with the family to get them to report the issue where it needed to be reported at. We were simply not the right outlet to report a person missing...

2/2 ...out of another state. Per policy and Florida State statute, the missing person should be reported missing where they’re last known location was." - Josh Taylor, North Port PD.
Sounds to me like the police went first as a welfare check on behalf of her parents, and then had to go again to the Laundrie’s house to see if Gabby had last been seen by them, in FL, to see if she should be reported as missing in their state. MOO
 
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