Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #51

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  • #201
We have all plainly seen all the boxes in the garage. Seems to me, if they contain GP's stuff, wouldn't LE know that? Wouldn't FBI know that? Why doesn't her mom know that? And why has it not been returned to GP's family? Strange... Not strange, if it's not her stuff. jmo

I find the behavior of the Laundrie family very odd and foreign to me.
Maybe after BL is found it will all start to make sense to all of us. Maybe not.
Right now, it's a series of RED FLAGS that look like guilt. They know their son is guilty.
They either tossed out her belongings because they dislike her, want to erase her existence to forget her, or have zero empathy for her or her family, or fear there might be evidence or a clue in her belongings to help convict their son of DV/homicide.
I am truly baffled otherwise if they are innocent why not hand her stuff over to the FBI to be processed and handed to her grieving family. I would NOT want someone treating my daughter and her property like trash. This would not sit well with me at all. If her death was an accident why hide, why be so cruel?
 
  • #202
The glaring blank in the timeline from 8/13 to 8/21 will reveal much when it finally becomes known. Fill in those dates with substantive data and clarity will be revealed. There has been a lot of intimation, none more interesting than a purported round trip flight to Florida by Brian and subsequent property move involving Gabby’s personal belongings.

Agreed. This is important.
 
  • #203
I don't know about this. They certainly have enough to hold him and roll him. The govt had immediately put in a motion for pretrial detention after the initial warrant (see docket link in earlier post) and you'd be surprised how people can begin to talk once they've been locked up for awhile. MOO
Its possible. LE is a tight ship sometimes as they build cases.
 
  • #204
Exactly! IMO BL tucked his little tail between his legs and flew home to get his hands on what he could- Her belongings in Florida. Once he realized she could be physically removed from his control, it was leverage. The L family current behavior certainly does not disprove this conjecture of their behavior while he was at home scrambling to show GP who was boss.

That is an interesting picture that you paint.

My interpretation is not that dark.

I don't think their relationship was evil vs good. I think it was full of immaturity and emotion. Not too unlike many at that age.

We don't know if or how BL was involved in Gabby's death. If he was, I believe it was an emotional overreaction rather than an evil intent.

In my opinion, his family was caught up in the turbulence of their relationship but had a hopeful outlook for their future. They were put in a terrible position none of us are really prepared for. Like us, they probably don't know the full extent of what happened to Gabby.

Just my opinion and thoughts.
 
  • #205
While I tend to agree this is a bunch of BS... Can you imagine how easy it would be to have an undercover hiking on the trails with him, watching his every move!?? It gets ya thinking...
Yes, FBI agents hiking the AT are the stuff of legend to thruhikers. Because it actually happened! They were on there looking for the Atlanta bomber. The story goes they were hiking around in new LLBean (or similar), preppy-looking outfits, new gear, and FBI-issue haircuts. And, unless you can put away food in colossal quantities, you’re a dead giveaway.
 
  • #206
I don't know about this. They certainly have enough to hold him and roll him. The govt had immediately put in a motion for pretrial detention after the initial warrant (see docket link in earlier post) and you'd be surprised how people can begin to talk once they've been locked up for awhile. MOO
Yes, I tend to agree with you.
 
  • #207
I find your assessments uncanny...and very possible.
Again I think you're onto to something...no one flies back to move stuff out of a storage locker to save a few bucks. It's cheaper to pay the rent for two more months than fly back suddenly.

ding ding ding!
The whole storage unit excuse doesn’t fly. Would be cheaper to pay it up until end of October. Leads me to think BL knew the van life trip wasn’t going to last long. Do we know who paid for GP hotel stay? His trip back to Florida, if it happened, is a mystery for sure and possibly more relevant to the case than previously thought.
 
  • #208
I’m not sure why LE would contact the ATC. I went into their office once. They were snooty. That’s my ENTIRE connection to the ATC. Word easily gets around on the AT . While current events might not be popular topics, fugitives certainly are, along with weather.
If local LE thought, with any certainty, that a dangerous fugitive was on or near a trail managed by a federal agency, FBI would be notified, as would NPS & thus ATC. The alert would absolutely be posted, ime.
 
  • #209
Exactly! IMO BL tucked his little tail between his legs and flew home to get his hands on what he could- Her belongings in Florida. Once he realized she could be physically removed from his control, it was leverage. The L family current behavior certainly does not disprove this conjecture of their behavior while he was at home scrambling to show GP who was boss.

I still subscribe to the possibility that the parents, upon learning of Moab (if they did) forced and agreed to his return for a cooling off period. I have no facts for this. This is only my opinion. But, it is my opinion because it is the only thing that makes sense to me. Particularly in light of the sister's statement to ABC News. Transcript link in earlier posts) MOO JMO
 
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  • #210
I had seen this but never posted about it because I never saw it on MSM. Now that we have…

MOO. I have compared this ‘gun’ to the item on top of the ‘book’ outside of the van in the Bethune video. Also have seen a gun catalog photo of said gun model. To my eye they all look exactly the same.

none of this is definitive tho. Could just as easily be a water pistol or gun that blows bubbles

IF one of them owned a gun and was licensed to carry, I’d be surprised if they did not bring it along. Given they were to be camping in bear country. That said, did either of the Utah body cams shown an officer asking if they had weapons in the vehicle? I watched both videos and do not recall that question being asked.
 
  • #211
This is exactly what I think happened. Posted this exact scenario early on. My big question was, and still is, why’d he fly back & why’d they let him? On the promise he’d help her drive back? For a farewell make-love for the last time? Wth did he return to her?

When I posted this idea, LE had not formally ruled out the Moab double homicide possible connection. So I wondered then if BL was responsible & GB was discovering evidence in this regard. But since that homicide is not connected, maybe she discovered BL is connected to another crime. Did he leave a journal/netbook/evidence behind that he needed to retrieve? I just can’t wrap my head around why BL returned to UT if the purpose of his return home was to get space & secure a certain break-up of this toxic pattern. Jmo, moo, etc
I think BL may have used some carefully stored learned behavior of what a “normal” person does in a situation. Maybe he told his parents the appropriate things to do was to go retrieve his now Ex-fiancé as bf drive her home. IMO though, this was a game and BL wanted to stay with her.

as a side note, the Utah LE only spoke out and said those double murders had nothing to do with GPS “disappearance”. Since the discovery of GPS body, they have had no comment. Since the mods don’t want us discussing that possible connection, because of the LE stance, I think what that stance was on 9/17/21 should be accurate.
 
  • #212
This is exactly what I think happened. Posted this exact scenario early on. My big question was, and still is, why’d he fly back & why’d they let him? On the promise he’d help her drive back? For a farewell make-love for the last time? Wth did he return to her?

When I posted this idea, LE had not formally ruled out the Moab double homicide possible connection. So I wondered then if BL was responsible & GB was discovering evidence in this regard. But since that homicide is not connected, maybe she discovered BL is connected to another crime. Did he leave a journal/netbook/evidence behind that he needed to retrieve? I just can’t wrap my head around why BL returned to UT if the purpose of his return home was to get space & secure a certain break-up of this toxic pattern. Jmo, moo, etc
It has crossed my mind that he wanted custody of the stupid van, to complete his mission to take custody of everything she owned. I don't think that taking her LIFE as well, was on the agenda, but that's what he did, IMO. I think that Gardner is right, the family wanted nothing to do with GP and her family, including all her belongings. I suspect that he thought of the van as his, and so did his family. jmo
 
  • #213
There was this yesterday. You may have easily missed it!

.......Reports of a possible sighting of Brian Laundrie in Newman, GA could not be confirmed by police.

"We have not had an official sighting with the the City of Newman," Newman Police Department Chief Blankenship told Fox News Sunday.....

Gabby Petito: Search for fiancé Brian Laundrie broadens: LIVE UPDATES

It's good that local LE said that about the alleged Newman GA sighting. If the person that DD interacted with near the Appalachian Trail on the border between North Carolina and Tennessee is a local known to local LE, I hope they will issue a statement saying that.

JMO

JMO
 
  • #214
It has crossed my mind that he wanted custody of the stupid van, to complete his mission to take custody of everything she owned. I don't think that taking her LIFE as well, was on the agenda, but that's what he did, IMO. I think that Gardner is right, the family wanted nothing to do with GP and her family, including all her belongings. I suspect that he thought of the van as his, and so did his family. jmo
IMO she was at the SLC hotel, because he’d absconded with the van and left her.
 
  • #215
But then where did the report come from that the van was initially parked in the garage and then moved to the driveway. I am stating MOO for SURE here because I did not say this, have no link


I still subscribe to the possibility that the parents, upon learning of Moab (if they did) forced and agreed to his return for a cooling off period. I have no facts for this. This is only my opinion. But, it is my opinion because it is the only thing that makes sense to me. Particularly in light of the sister's statement to ABC News. Transcript link in earlier posts) MOO JMO
I wouldn’t doubt at all that may have been his parents intent, however I do not believe that is why BL agreed . Moo
 
  • #216
MOO. This has been and is and always be a trauma and tragedy for the Laundries. I do not believe for a second that they are carefree and fine. I’m sure they are suffering tremendously. As are GP’s families. It’s a I’ll wind that blows no one good and this one is a storm.

Initially, I was horrified and was ready to join the mob in the outcry against the Laundries. But with all the info here, I’ve come to realize that with all of the adult children I have, their break ups and coming home, I would not have ever suspected any of them killed a friend or left someone the way it appears BL did. It’s possible that the texts and emails apprising them that Gabby was missing came on the 10th , and these folks decided this was more than they can handle without advice and went to a trusted attorney.
From there, they did as told. They may not know anything Certainly LE would have charged them by now if they had an iota of proof that they did anything against the law.
BL is their son, and Im sure they are mourning him terribly in their own way. He may be dead and if not, he has a gauntlet to run for what he did. I do not condone lynch mobs. The story is not all out yet. They certainly would be advised to not go out searching for their son or doing anything to add to this circus scene. It takes away fro LE resources as the house mob is.
Respectfully disagree. You are likely a normal parent with normal kids. The parents of children like BL know what they have produced. They just don't want to admit it. I could give personal examples as well as examples of other cases but we're not supposed to do that. As far as the parents being charged: It's not what you know, it's what you can prove. They ran to a lawyer because they didn't want BL to be held accountable. Seen this over and over, everywhere. Yes, I know all about the Constitution and their rights. They have the right to exercise those rights legally but they are a huge moral failure. Not feeling sorry for them at all.
 
  • #217
If those are the things kept in the storage locker I’m kind of surprised the Laundries would bring them to their home!!
They seem to be folks that keep their own things and property in good order.
I wouldn’t think they would junk up their garage with Stuff!
Up north we get spiders and mice in storage lockers. I’m betting it’s cockroach heaven in Florida. Who would want that in their homes attached garage???

It would depend on the quality of the storage place, if it's a fly by night place absolutely, but in a climate-controlled unit some places have the storage rooms all inside a nice building minus all the rodents and insects.

In North Port there are loads of them, Florida has loads of them.

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Respectfully disagree. You are likely a normal parent with normal kids. The parents of children like BL know what they have produced. They just don't want to admit it. I could give personal examples as well as examples of other cases but we're not supposed to do that. As far as the parents being charged: It's not what you know, it's what you can prove. They ran to a lawyer because they didn't want BL to be held accountable. Seen this over and over, everywhere. Yes, I know all about the Constitution and their rights. They have the right to exercise those rights legally but they are a huge moral failure. Not feeling sorry for them at all.

It is as if you know them without knowing them.

I do know parents who have raised "normal" children that made poor decisions at BL's age. Those decisions did not come from a dark or abnormal background. They came from immaturity in the moment.
 
  • #219
If those are the things kept in the storage locker I’m kind of surprised the Laundries would bring them to their home!!
They seem to be folks that keep their own things and property in good order.
I wouldn’t think they would junk up their garage with Stuff!
Up north we get spiders and mice in storage lockers. I’m betting it’s cockroach heaven in Florida. Who would want that in their homes attached garage???
She almost got their Brian arrested. With her stuff back in the house, they save storage bucks and have the pleasure of kicking her AND her stuff out to the curb upon her return.
MOO
 
  • #220
Alabama attorney claims FBI don’t want Laundrie in custody yet

FBI may KNOW where Laundrie is but are holding off snaring him, lawyer claims
I’ve actually thought the same thing. Kinda like a racoon hunter. Track him, track him, track track track until you hear those old redbone’s howling. You got him treed now. Nothing to do but sit and wait for him to come down himself. Nowhere to go but up. So those old racoon hunters stand under that tree awaiting, Smokin’, drinkin’, tellin stories until the racoon comes down and they watch it scamper away. Of course this young racoon won’t be goin’ frolicking’ amongst the flora, he’ll be in handcuffs and a 5 Star accompaniment to jail.
 
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