Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #53

[Alethea]

Well, I suppose they could have just moved the car to a different place and left a note on it. Might still have gotten a tow. Maybe LE knew exactly whose car it was? I would wager that they did.

I agree it does sound pre-planned. But I don't think that BL is your typical adult child, and I think his parents may have been quite tired of his...um...errant behavior, so they may well have wanted to make sure they kept the Mustang and didn't have to pay impound fees, as opposed to (once again) bailing out BL for his weirdness (that's assuming they really thought he went hiking).

But you've nudged me off the fence. They obviously didn't think he had gone hiking (or was at risk of suicide) or they would have behaved differently and would be behaving differently now.



Well, I wonder if they actually went up into the attic or into the warren of boxes in the garage. It looks like a big solid mass of boxes in the garage, but there could easily be a carton of Brian.

They certainly didn't open every box, I would guess. It looked like they did the standard search.

So yeah, he could have had a hidey hole in the house. Anyone who builds an impromptu staircase so that their kid can bolt over the back fence is capable of keeping a large box for him to hide in, in the middle of a bunch of other boxes. FBI would have needed a lot of time to clean out that garage that day, and it would have been visible from outside the house.

Some have mentioned that pillar-like thing in his bedroom, but I can't see from the picture whether the drywall was structured so as to make an opening. I do wonder why it's there. Perhaps just weird house construction. There are certain states of mind, cognitive conditions, where the subject likes to hide, seeks a small space, etc.

Indeed, Van Life has real appeal to such people and both Alex Honnold and his mom have spoken about his mind qualities, which make him favor Van Life.

They could have used thermal imaging from outside the house. I just can't imagine the FBI would launch the searches they did unless they were sure he was not in the house.

How would you explain spending probably close to a million dollars on searches of a swamp because an agent forgot to look behind the shower curtain?

 

[10ofRods]

You’re correct about the basement comment.

However…I reallyyyy wanna know why they paid so much attention to that shed in the back yard during the execution of that warrant.

And almost none to the garage, which is an obvious hiding place.

Unless I missed footage of them getting dollies and opening all of those boxes in the garage.

 

[moonlessnight]

I guess you missed a few pages. Many people questioned whether there was evidence he went to FLA. I did not "make this up". Please provide evidence from my post that states that I claimed he did not go home.

Wondering why you are making this up about Brian not going home. It's been confirmed that he indeed did fly into Tampa. The Laundrie's attorney confirms it.

Where do you think Brain went when he flew to Florida while Gabby was in a SLC Fairfield Inn?

Brian Laundrie Flew Home Days After Police Separated Him & Gabby Petito, Attorney Says

Brian Laundrie flew home to Florida during cross-country road trip with Gabby Petito to 'empty and close' storage unit: lawyer

The lawyer, Steven Bertolino, revealed the twist in the case’s timeline to The Post on Tuesday, saying Brian returned to his parents’ home in North Port on Aug. 17 and then flew back to Salt Lake City on Aug. 23 to rejoin Petito.

Brian Laundrie flew home to Florida on Aug. 17 in new Gabby Petito case twist

Cassie verifies he flew home:
"On Monday, Ms Laundrie confirmed that her brother flew home to Florida on or before 17 August, and rejoined Ms Petito before returning home alone with her van on 1 September. She says she saw him on 1 September, reported NewsNation Now."

Brian Laundrie’s sister said he flew home on 17 August just after fight

 

[Satchie]

Yes, the way he described the circle for where the firepit was and where the tent would go, I definitely think they camped there.

That would explain how/why her remains were out there, ie not moved particularly far.

 

[pcap]

A propeller of some kind, maybe? Like for a boat. At first I thought it was a ski.
Wait.
Maybe for a drone? Did they ever find their drone? Could he have taken the drone and is following the search by drone and is watching by his laptop?

No.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I found this:
https://www.cityofnorthport.com/home/showpublisheddocument/6298/637672118116670000

which has: "HOURS 6:00 a.m. - Sunset"

and this:

Your Local Parks | North Port, FL

which has:

"Primitive camping is also allowed at this park with a permit."

So without a permit for camping I could see that a car left there overnight would be an issue.
Google Street view doesn't go into the parking lot, so can't see any signage there.

Thank you, cbeagle.

 

[Van Helsing]

At the end of the WFLA stream, a Sarasota County truck turned into the entrance of the search area, I can't make out what is in the back of the truck but I took a screenshot of it.

Pole saw or trimmer.

 

[Sassafrass]

You receive an email with the locker number and combination.
You can go any time. In the middle of the night, etc.

Thank you!

 

[Newsjunkiejen]

Well, I suppose they could have just moved the car to a different place and left a note on it. Might still have gotten a tow. Maybe LE knew exactly whose car it was? I would wager that they did.

I agree it does sound pre-planned. But I don't think that BL is your typical adult child, and I think his parents may have been quite tired of his...um...errant behavior, so they may well have wanted to make sure they kept the Mustang and didn't have to pay impound fees, as opposed to (once again) bailing out BL for his weirdness (that's assuming they really thought he went hiking).

But you've nudged me off the fence. They obviously didn't think he had gone hiking (or was at risk of suicide) or they would have behaved differently and would be behaving differently now.



Well, I wonder if they actually went up into the attic or into the warren of boxes in the garage. It looks like a big solid mass of boxes in the garage, but there could easily be a carton of Brian.

They certainly didn't open every box, I would guess. It looked like they did the standard search.

So yeah, he could have had a hidey hole in the house. Anyone who builds an impromptu staircase so that their kid can bolt over the back fence is capable of keeping a large box for him to hide in, in the middle of a bunch of other boxes. FBI would have needed a lot of time to clean out that garage that day, and it would have been visible from outside the house.

Some have mentioned that pillar-like thing in his bedroom, but I can't see from the picture whether the drywall was structured so as to make an opening. I do wonder why it's there. Perhaps just weird house construction. There are certain states of mind, cognitive conditions, where the subject likes to hide, seeks a small space, etc.

Indeed, Van Life has real appeal to such people and both Alex Honnold and his mom have spoken about his mind qualities, which make him favor Van Life.

"A carton of Brian" haha Quote of the day right here.

 

[Nudgee]

Are there any pipe like structures big enough for alligators to stay in or is that complete urban myth? We have huge drainage pipes in the Midwest twice the size of a man.

Absolutely…. They run out from the Everglades, Lake Okeechobee, and other areas. That’s why we get gators in our neighborhood lakes (OMG, did you see on the news this morning a young boy down here was fishing in a local lake and had a fish on his line, his Dad was recording him reeling in the fish when an alligator came out of the water and grabbed the little boys fish & pole…. Holy Moly)…anyway, yes to the pipe systems. We also have big major canals. I live in the vicinity of the Hillsboro Canal. But I seriously doubt BL could use that mode. They also drain the water system when storms are coming. We’re in hurricane season until Nov 30 so all kinds of moving the water can occur at anytime , especially if a hurricane is approaching. Sept/Oct is a peak hurricane season.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Okay, the Dr. Phil interview with the Petitos has been approved (Thanks, Tiff).

Dr. Phil was not the best interviewer here for "our" purposes IMO. Not to discredit him in any way, we look for the smallest of details as clues, he is simple giving an interview. So, with that said, I found the family to have given us a lot of info we did not know or have confirmed.

At 11:49
JP states he told them they were gonna call police and still received no response from them. At this point, the Petitos still believed BOTH of them were missing.

At 19:21
NS - “And they had (or have) the keys…”
JP – “And, how they threw the key away…”

And Dr. P does NOT follow up on this.

Um, come again? They threw away the key? Why would they ever bother doing that? Was there some sort of thought that maybe they’d say GP came back, left, and took the keys with her? MOO This is just one more of those nonsensical pieces of information that we are hearing that make so little sense that you cannot help but think it could be significant IMO.

Anyone else hear this? Thoughts?

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[raffielle]

I have a question, and apologize if its been covered. If mom and dad think BL is camping and get a notice that the car will be towed in 5 days - why do they pick up the car the very next day? Wouldn't you leave it banking on BL will be back before its towed? I mean, unless you know he's not there at all or dead.

It is my understanding that they went to the reserve to look for BL themselves that is when they came upon the car with the note on it.

 

[pcrum12]

To contribute to the dialog about BL flying back home.

They had a significant physical, frightening, altercation. One that drew police attention, the public's attention. One that forced Brian to either accept accountability of his actions even though he may not have been blamed by the police. He certainly blamed Gabby. He may have been resentful of the negative attention it brought toward him. All the possible things that could have happened. They both might have been sent to jail or perhaps him. Now, instead of cooling off he is brewing within himself.

Perhaps He reaches out to his parents, perhaps calls his sister. Perhaps they suggest he comes home to cool down. Perhaps <modsnip> they offer for him to come home and they can discuss things, <modsnip>, and go back and work things out with Gabby.

He might have wanted to make sure the things he wanted or Gabby wanted were taken out of storage. Or he was ready to move on when they arrived home. One way that the parents may reconcile their actions is to taken into consideration conditions that they believed were out of of Brian's control . That he was dealing with his situation the best he can. The <modsnip> visit would help temporarily.

<modsnip>. Giving Brian the break he needed was their way to help him. They had no idea that he would do what he did.

Then, suddenly, He must have spoken to them to expect him home. Mom changed reservations before he arrived home. They knew or assumed he did something or separated from Gabby, <modsnip>

For me this kind of response and point of view from the parents makes more sense that accounts for the motivation of their behavior. They don't seem to be victims of their sons over-the-top behavior and never responded in a public display of frustration but from a perspective of knowledge of their son and knew how to respond accordingly.

Perhaps, to them, It was not BL that did what he was accused of. <modsnip> Only they understood and will hold firm until the right time has come.

But the Moab incident was not public until after she was reported missing in September

 

[Purplepixii]

Been sticking with my self-imposed “only check Gabby’s thread in the evening” rule & feeling better for it, even though I miss some interesting things. Currently feeling very grateful for the WS rules, because dang are the crazies out on SM. Is it a full moon tonight?

 

[squareandrabbet]

You receive an email with the locker number and combination.
You can go any time. In the middle of the night, etc.

Caveat: not all locales are 24-hour locations (the ones at my gym in particular).

Also, I don't know about pileup in other states, but plenty of times I've gone to send something to a location in Manhattan, and only one or two locales show up with any vacancies whatsoever, all miles away from me, which I devoutly hate.

 

[Bertha96]

Something to consider, those who have poo pooed the idea of false walls or trap doors or anything possibly constructed by the L's, people who own multiple properties are usually well versed in maintenance and upkeep of said properties. There are exceptions of course but that is often the case. They also are well versed in rehabbing houses that are in bad shape so they can then rent them out. This would require construction in said houses. They could also contract out in which case they would "know a guy" who could assist them. There's no telling what is in their house and previously constructed way before any of this mess. IMO.

 

[lowes123]

I BELIEVE there's a second part airing today, just a heads up. I don't know what TV service provider you have. But I was able to search Dr. Phil last night and the aired the first part again at like 3 am this morning, so I was able to record it and watch it this morning. You might be able to find it on on demand or something I hate when technology glitches like that.

If there is a second part, it should be on you tube, that is how I watched it yesterday.

 

[BCSleuth]

Pole saw or trimmer.

That is what I made it out to be as well. And I will note that it could be completely unrelated to the police activity. It's entirely possible that the worker just showed up to do a little landscaping.

 

[Gardenista]

Florida house for sale features underground bomb shelter

 

[Sassafrass]

Well, I suppose they could have just moved the car to a different place and left a note on it. Might still have gotten a tow. Maybe LE knew exactly whose car it was? I would wager that they did.

I agree it does sound pre-planned. But I don't think that BL is your typical adult child, and I think his parents may have been quite tired of his...um...errant behavior, so they may well have wanted to make sure they kept the Mustang and didn't have to pay impound fees, as opposed to (once again) bailing out BL for his weirdness (that's assuming they really thought he went hiking).

But you've nudged me off the fence. They obviously didn't think he had gone hiking (or was at risk of suicide) or they would have behaved differently and would be behaving differently now.



Well, I wonder if they actually went up into the attic or into the warren of boxes in the garage. It looks like a big solid mass of boxes in the garage, but there could easily be a carton of Brian.

They certainly didn't open every box, I would guess. It looked like they did the standard search.

So yeah, he could have had a hidey hole in the house. Anyone who builds an impromptu staircase so that their kid can bolt over the back fence is capable of keeping a large box for him to hide in, in the middle of a bunch of other boxes. FBI would have needed a lot of time to clean out that garage that day, and it would have been visible from outside the house.

Some have mentioned that pillar-like thing in his bedroom, but I can't see from the picture whether the drywall was structured so as to make an opening. I do wonder why it's there. Perhaps just weird house construction. There are certain states of mind, cognitive conditions, where the subject likes to hide, seeks a small space, etc.

Indeed, Van Life has real appeal to such people and both Alex Honnold and his mom have spoken about his mind qualities, which make him favor Van Life.

"a carton of Brian"!

As for underground hiding speculation, Twitter is currently going insane over ideas he's alive and under that little garden box the Ls have been watering