Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #56

[kimch33kim]

TBH we may need to consider the possibility that he did not know Gabby was dead when he left. Maybe they had another bad fight again and he said I'm leaving you for good, I'll take the van and go back. You can fly home yourself etc. The money part can be explained by they normally share the card and he withdrew money for cash since he doesn't like carrying plastics etc.
Perhaps he went home thinking she was alive so they all found out on the 10th that something had horribly gone wrong. It's not weird for couples to give each other silent treatments. Maybe that's why he was acting normal in Fort Desoto pics.

Why would he bring the van back? Why not just run away from Teton area after taking the $1000?

We don't know much ; it sounds far fetched but anything's possible. And that's why the people said the million dollar question is when was Bertolino retained.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Personally, I see no reason to take CL to the swamp to see anything that can't be accomplished by showing a picture. So that reason makes no sense to me.

I CAN see it as a tactic to tell him he is needed and see if any conversation ensues with him that helps the FBI.
It just makes no sense to me at all. I have never seen this done.

 

[YohanApple]

I think your scenario is the most likely of the ones I've heard. I can only imagine how awful BL's parents felt when they questioned their son about Gabby's whereabouts (when her family started texting) and then things just went to hell in a handbasket.

The fact that 911 was called multiple times on the 10th and 11th tells me that things were reaching a boiling point in the Laundrie household.

I really don't know what I'd do in that situation. If BL said "She might be dead, and I might have killed her but I don't know for sure," I don't think I'd text that to her parents who were looking for a bit of hope. And then, the attorney told them to remain silent and it no longer was about what they wanted to do.

If GP's parents/stepfather was there during the 911 calls. I just thought of it. That probably means BL was probably still there at the house during this time as well. I wonder what went down?

 

[Born2BWild]

re the keystone kops Brian Entin livestream car chase, the simplest explanation was that CL wanted to go somewhere, but didn't want to be followed, maybe a friend's house, or who knows who? The cops tried to block BE, but he caught up with CL. At that point CL pulled over to call whoever he was heading to visit and said 'I can't come, I've got media following me'. Then he went home instead.

What is your source for who CL called and what he said? I’m looking for it.

 

[Which_pancake]

Then again, for them it's between their son's life and a day or two less agony for the GP family. Still ugly but still not a difficult decision.

It's noteworthy here that he probably spun the story to justify it to them. They probably still don't believe they are protecting a murderer. For all we know, they aren't. For all we know, her drink was drugged at the restaurant, she had a bad reaction, attacked him, and he killed her in self- defense. We don't know anything so arguing about how terrible the people who did not kill her are is only taking the spotlight off the guy that did.

BBM - this exactly!

 

[NCWatcher]

Found Deceased - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #55
I had to being this over from the last thread.
We do not know how long Gabby lived with them though. IIRC they had not been at their current address for very long and also IIRC G and B lived with CaL for some time.

The point of my post, was that we do not know what the dynamics were of the parental relationships. We also do not know, what Brian told his parents (and perhaps CaL also) but whatever it was, must have fit with the vibe they had of Gabby. I suspect that they only became suspicious when the calls from Gabbys parents started (and was it both parents or just her mother?) and they got advice from their attorney, which probably said, do not speak to anyone, direct them to me.

Remember, we do not have the full facts. We have only heard one side of the story.

I agree. And while I am not too sure Rose is always reliable in what she says, her report of GP spending some nights at her house is probably true. In this article linked below she says it was "7 to 10 times" the year she knew her. I wonder if GP let the Laundries know when she wasn't coming home at night? My bet is no. Rose also says she spent the night at G&B's house. I wonder if the L's invited her? I kind of doubt it. My point is the parents and G&B may have lived relatively independent lives (at least as independent as possible under one shared roof.) And as you said in the quoted post, we don't know either when G&B switched from being the sister's roommates to being the parents'.

Brian Laundrie was controlling, had 'episodes': Gabby Petito pal

JMO

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I also find this odd. Here are some things that might be accomplished by his physical presence in the reserve:

For LE:

• His absence elsewhere
• A chance to talk with him separately, away from his wife. (Did his lawyer accompany him to the reserve?)
• A chance to view his reactions
• An opportunity to say that they are doing everything they can to search for BL in the reserve.

For CL:

• An opportunity to look for BL
• An opportunity to show that he's looking for BL, whatever he may know about BL's actual whereabouts
• Possibly a distraction from something going on at the house or elsewhere.

JMO

I posted and now I am thinking further. One thing it also does is separate CL and RL. Maybe SHE is the one in contact in BL and the idea to separate would give her time to do that?

 

[ce4au]

Possibly or the just the stress of the whole mess, or if Brian's watching again the lure of the father and son relationship. Even in a fractured relationship a son would possibly respond or be enticed

MOO

Could have been that he was extremely stressed/mad about the media trying to follow him home & his (& the FBI’s) attempt to lose them was unsuccessful. JMO.

 

[JuneRose]

MOO:

The Laundries seem dead set on keeping the search going in the reserve.

I dont think its just the Laundries dead set on searching at the reserve FBI seems set on it too, i pretty sure they have a reason to believe they are searching in the right area other then just what the Laudries say, they arent easily fooled IMO

 

[Okiruy]

TBH we may need to consider the possibility that he did not know Gabby was dead when he left. Maybe they had another bad fight again and he said I'm leaving you for good, I'll take the van and go back. You can fly home yourself etc. The money part can be explained by they normally share the card and he withdrew money for cash since he doesn't like carrying plastics etc.
Perhaps he went home thinking she was alive so they all found out on the 10th that something had horribly gone wrong. It's not weird for couples to give each other silent treatments. Maybe that's why he was acting normal in Fort Desoto pics.

Why would he bring the van back? Why not just run away from Teton area after taking the $1000?

We don't know much ; it sounds far fetched but anything's possible. And that's why the people said the million dollar question is when was Bertolino retained.

If BL is not guilty, why run?

Just like many others have said… if (BIG, HUGE, GARGANTUAN if) he is innocent, he is the most guilty looking innocent person there ever was.

 

[Claire182]

TBH we may need to consider the possibility that he did not know Gabby was dead when he left. Maybe they had another bad fight again and he said I'm leaving you for good, I'll take the van and go back. You can fly home yourself etc. The money part can be explained by they normally share the card and he withdrew money for cash since he doesn't like carrying plastics etc.
Perhaps he went home thinking she was alive so they all found out on the 10th that something had horribly gone wrong. It's not weird for couples to give each other silent treatments. Maybe that's why he was acting normal in Fort Desoto pics.

We don't know much ; it sounds far fetched but anything's possible. And that's why the people said the million dollar question is when was Bertolino retained.

My problem with this is that he did take her card and van, so if he deserted her in the middle of nowhere, what was she suppose to do? how would she get home? Isn’t that still negligent on his part? All my opinion.

 

[JudgeJoe]

RS&BBM:

The fact that 911 was called multiple times on the 10th and 11th tells me that things were reaching a boiling point in the Laundrie household.

That’s what I think too. The question is who made those calls & who convinced the other(s) to back down? I’m sure FBI has profiled the fam dynamics with these answers in mind. Very curious for sure!

 

[Nikynoo]

Still if BL knew the car was used by all of them then why desert it or take it in the first place and not get dropped off and also if they thought he usually went hiking for a few days why did they need to go look for the car the next day if that was normal behaviour. I can’t make sense of it as much as I try but maybe I’m an overprotective mother haha my child has called me that a few times.

think that was his only choice of transport. Getting a lift would have involved someone else.

When you've gone through the teens with two, the third is easier

 

[TheGardener]

I'm pondering (and maybe overthinking) what today's actions were all about. Why would they take CL on foot, no protective gear at all, no waders , no boots just ordinary street clothes. If they think BL is armed and they were fearing suicide or a shootout with LE wouldn't they have given both him and his escort some bullet proof vests or something. If they feel that BL's state of mind is such that he may become violent or that his mental status is compromised due to dehydration, lack of sleep , hunger etc, they can't know that he wouldn't just shoot whoever gets near him! So then maybe they *weren't* expecting to come across BL at all but then what reason would they have for bringing CL there? If it was items they wanted identified it could have been done with a picture. His favorite hiking areas could be marked on a map so no need to bring him there for those reasons. I'm scratching my head trying to figure out what could only be accomplished by CL's physical presence at the site.

New strategy. SB is attempting to "rehabilitate" his clients after allowing them to take the heat for his own bad decisions. MOO

 

[Satchie]

Truly curious what that 911 call from the Laundries on the 10th was about.

It’d be interesting to see if it was them complaining about harassment from the Petitos/Schmidt’s wondering where GP was, or if they were calling to report GP missing themselves.

I’m leaning toward anything other than the latter.

Police visited the L's in response to the P family's report that Gabby was missing and her van was in their driveway.

 

[Claire182]

think that was his only choice of transport. Getting a lift would have involved someone else.

When you've gone through the teens with two, the third is easier

Just the one for me, not sure I could handle another one now, 19 year age gap haha. It is a tough one because we haven’t been in their shoes, I guess we can only form opinions on how we are or would act, I do try to stay objective but it is tough, it’s hard not to bring in your own thoughts and feelings.

 

[nocommoncents]

TBH we may need to consider the possibility that he did not know Gabby was dead when he left. Maybe they had another bad fight again and he said I'm leaving you for good, I'll take the van and go back. You can fly home yourself etc. The money part can be explained by they normally share the card and he withdrew money for cash since he doesn't like carrying plastics etc.
Perhaps he went home thinking she was alive so they all found out on the 10th that something had horribly gone wrong. It's not weird for couples to give each other silent treatments. Maybe that's why he was acting normal in Fort Desoto pics.

Why would he bring the van back? Why not just run away from Teton area after taking the $1000?

We don't know much ; it sounds far fetched but anything's possible. And that's why the people said the million dollar question is when was Bertolino retained.

How would BL know something went horribly wrong on 9/10 if all they knew is that they couldn't reach her? And why the mysterious text to buy time?

 

[kimch33kim]

My problem with this is that he did take her card and van, so if he deserted her in the middle of nowhere, what was she suppose to do? how would she get home? Isn’t that still negligent on his part? All my opinion.

We don't know if he was still in possession of the card. He could have withdrawn the money with her knowledge then gave her the card back and said I'm going to drive the van back now. She had plans to meet up with Rose remember? Perhaps Rose was going to meet up with her and they will complete the trip together at the godmother's house in Oregon . We don't know so many things.

 

[ce4au]

SBM and BBM for focus



Though likely true, "entire" alludes to more that just the parents. Should he really be continuing to speak for Cassie and her family? If I recall correctly, he stated that he does not represent her, and she stated that she is not speaking with him.

That’s very interesting. CaL made it very clear how she feels about that attorney & that he does not represent her & in fact has thrown her under the bus (according to her & IMO I agree). I don’t think he should be speaking from the “entire” Laundrie family - he doesn’t specifically say CaL but that implies her. But I’m not an attorney & don’t know how their code of ethics - or whatever they call it…in engineering it’s a code of ethics - applies here. She def made it clear he doesn’t speak for her & in fact has spoken against her in her opinion. This is all JMO.

 

[nocommoncents]

Its getting very difficult to even imagine a scenario where Brian is innocent, as long as he continues to be missing. Unless she did actually hook up with a friend(s), he left not in a huff but just hike around and came back to her dead. He then freaked and ran, and is perhaps now spiraling from all this mess. Highly unlikely probably less than 1.6%

In context, we're discussing how the parents could be clinging to that idea. I think those that believe it here are few and far between.