Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #56

[JudgeJudi]

Gabbys parents lawyer said on DR Phil ‘he used her card’

Her dad also said in a Dr Phil interview:

“It’s not even his van. I mean I could say a lot of things that aren‘t appropriate for TV. … Like I said before, I’m a protective dad, you know, and I’ve got a lot of questions. … First of all you [BL] came home without her and you had the van 10 days in your driveway. So now I’ve got:

What happened with the van? Did you clean it? Did your parents help you clean it?

Did they help cover up a crime, you know, after the fact? ...

You stole a car over, over – across how many states? You know, can you be arrested for that?
…
I’m a good person. We’ve got a problem and we’ve got to handle it quick and whatever the problem is, whatever the scenario is – you know, I teach my son, my younger son and Gabby to stand up for your mistakes. If you do something wrong, you apologize and you take what’s coming, because that’s what decent people do. Obviously they skipped that role in parenting.
…
The problem with that is, that van was Gabby’s".

 

[LinasK]

I’m aware of what your alternative theory is, and I was saying it doesn’t fit with what we know. Honestly the theory that Stan was a code word Gabby had with her mom in case of danger sort of leaves on the table the idea that Gabby’s mom forgot the code word and left Gabby hanging and in need of help. I can’t get on board with that. Sorry. Moo.

You are probably right. That's the only other thing that I can come up with if Brian didn't send that one too.

 

[Trooper]

But if you recall 48 hours episode on this case, (if this is not permitted or if not in media thread please delete) the Victor, ID merchant made it a point to state that it appeared to her that he was pushing her to turn around and make that public announcement as they left. MOO And, I believe her mother would have info. MOO

That was a weird little snippet of info.. the times it was reported about this engagement stuff, it was Brian underlining the claim that Gabby was his fiancée, (the woman a man is engaged to ) in my experience, not something men are inclined to make a hoo--ha about... ..

I cannot recall anywhere where Gabby claims Brian as her fiancé... that is - the man she is engaged to.

And the times when Brian made a singsong about it, was, you guessed it, publicly, in a store, for example.

 

[Molotok]

Is Brian Laundrie Alive? One Seasoned Pro Says Yes — and Where He Thinks FBI Should Look Next

At least one seasoned investigator, a retired federal marshal with three decades of experience searching for -- and finding -- people who were on the run, says he doesn't think Laundrie was ever in the Carlton Reserve in the first place.

In an interview for News 4's The Debrief podcast, Craig Caine, who supervised members of the New York/New Jersey Regional Fugitive Task Force before his retirement from the U.S. Marshals Service, said he believes Laundrie was never in that nature preserve at all.

"I think it was all a ploy. He had plenty of time to calculate those moves," said Caine, who has no involvement in the Petito/Laundrie case but who offered an expert opinion based on 30-plus years working such mysteries in the United States and abroad.

Caine says there is one "critical moment that changed my mind" as far as where he thought the investigation would lead. In his view, it all comes back to that silver Ford Mustang Brian Laundrie's parents told police their son drove to the Carlton Reserve on Sept. 14. He left behind his phone, which the FBI has since confiscated.

Laundrie's parents went to the preserve after their son didn't come home. They found the Mustang. They drove it home. Three days later, they called police to tell them that Brian Laundrie was missing. That, for Caine, was the critical juncture.

"You're gonna leave your son out in the preserve with no form of communication and no way to get home? Does that make sense to anybody?" Caine asked. "I don't even think he was ever in that preserve."

The FBI and local law enforcement briefly seized that Ford Mustang as part of their investigation and have since returned it to the Laundrie family. It's unclear what, if anything, of forensic note they found inside of it to assist in their investigation.

Caine says he isn't surprised they haven't found Laundrie yet, either. But he does think, eventually, he will be located.

"This isn't reality TV. This is a real-life situation, which leads me to believe this was well-orchestrated, well-planned and he had a lot of time and resources," Caine opined. "This guy will be found, maybe not sooner but he will be found later."

Although I also feel like the car parked at the reserve is a false flag, it is only a 5 mile walk from their house. Reclaiming their vehicle is not leaving their son out in the wilderness, he could have walked the 5 miles home if the car was gone. (I walk 7 to 10 miles most nights and I'm old)

 

[Angels Advocate]

Her dad also said in a Dr Phil interview:

“It’s not even his van. I mean I could say a lot of things that aren‘t appropriate for TV. … Like I said before, I’m a protective dad, you know, and I’ve got a lot of questions. … First of all you [BL] came home without her and you had the van 10 days in your driveway. So now I’ve got:

What happened with the van? Did you clean it? Did your parents help you clean it?

Did they help cover up a crime, you know, after the fact? ...

You stole a car over, over – across how many states? You know, can you be arrested for that?
…
I’m a good person. We’ve got a problem and we’ve got to handle it quick and whatever the problem is, whatever the scenario is – you know, I teach my son, my younger son and Gabby to stand up for your mistakes. If you do something wrong, you apologize and you take what’s coming, because that’s what decent people do. Obviously they skipped that role in parenting.
…
The problem with that is, that van was Gabby’s".

Love, love, love this. May justice be swift.

 

[Backhoe411]

I think he'd prefer to find someplace he could hunker down, rather than be on the AT, his face is all over the news. I wonder whether the lawyer could have put him in touch with people who would have a place to hide out. After all, he was not a suspect at that point, just a POI.

Good onsite, yet, I also wondered that and thought the lawyer would become an accomplice, but I wouldn't rule it out of investigation.

 

[LadyL]

I think they are talking about the code word STAN which apparently means send the authorities now or something. We are not allowed to talk about this anymore. I believe it is or was in the rules on the first page.

that's not at all what I was commenting on
I didn't even know it was a thing

 

[Jurisprudence]

By that logic, I guess Brian's dad committed murder at some point.

Laughing does not make you heartless or a murderer. Nor does it make you innocent or a saint. It doesn't mean anything. People laugh. And I really hate when people expect others to publically bleed for them. Personal pain is just that - personal.

I'm with the others on this one. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that. To me, IMOO, the Laundries' behavior is the antithesis of parents worried about the welfare of their child. It's the antithesis of a pet owner worried about the safety, security, and well-being of their pet. JMO.

 

[Figuring]

333


huh?
many abused women don't think of themselves as abused
that's part of the reason their abusers are able to get away with it

It's true. Abuse gets normalized inside a relationship. Part of that normalization, funnily enough, is that, in many cases, the abuse isn't constant. It can be so irregular, or happen in such varying ways, that it can be very, very easily explained or apologized away. The best way I can describe it is like weather. Initially, & for a long while, it feels much more like little seasonal storms that will blow over, rather than a predictable pattern. Then it becomes a whole season. Then it becomes a land of that weather, & you don't even remember the old climate you were drawn to.

Part of the pattern of abuse is for the abuser to appear to be contrite, to make amends, & to be on super good behaviour for a long time. They can very much make you think they've changed, or will change, or that you caused it, or that, if you changed, you could stop it from happening. That's part of the mechanism--to get you to think about CHANGE over leaving. The abuser doesn't want you to leave. They want to do as much as gives them their sense of power & gratification without causing you to leave. They literally titrate abuse according to understanding your limits.

They cycle through this routine so many times & usually with increasing rapidity to the point that you don't even know what's true anymore, & you give up your power, in a form of learned helplessness; you get to thinking that if THIS is the person who loves you, you're worse off out in the world--with people who don't even care about you; & sometimes you are so isolated or economically controlled etc that you don't even have a means to escape, or fear the person will even harm your loved ones.

To be clear, none of us know the ins & outs of GPs relationship. Her parents & LE know which is enough for me.

This is just me speaking from experience--& feeling pain anew--about every time I see it being asked why people don't *just* leave their abuser.

 

[Bekind89]

I don't always agree with you but I definitely enjoy reading your posts.

So do 8

Is this unusual, in the sense that it's not in winter, or in mountainous country, .. Florida seemed to me to be quite densely populated...(in comparison to where I live , AU ) , and the reward money, wouldn't that be a bit of a motivator?.. ... that this search is taking so long and is , apparently, so bereft of any success at all?..

Don't think I am criticizing any USA LE orgs. My own state police, The NSW Police Force lost a killer in a small forest near Sydney for nearly 7 years. He'd still be on the run , they didn't catch him , the killer, Naden, got lonely. ...

I am merely curious as to what seems to me to be a very reactive search.

To just add insult to injury, he appears to be rather dim. Honestly, I did not think he would last one day with that amount of a bounty on his head.
Truly disturbing that the FBI can't catch this 23 year old. Sigh. Jmo

 

[Hyway]

The ring with the sunflowers, is that the engagement ring?

I don't know what it was, but she was still wearing a ring on the ring finger of her left hand in the Moab video. I don't know if that still means anything to kids today, though.

 

[Hyway]

While I'm willing to accept that his video analysis is accurate (mostly because it's interesting and, imo, doesn't really bear on the case one way or the other) his efforts to demonstrate that the video wasn't doctored are Greek to me if I'm honest and, I imagine, to 99% of the people watching it.

It bares heavily on the case if LE analyses the video and determines someone was in the vehicle at that time.

 

[Bekind89]

Methinks they don't understand what surveillance is.

Then I guess BL is a ghost. Jmo

 

[CharlestonGal]

Plus, the arrest warrant states Brian is wanted for "use of unauthorized access devices...following the death of Gabby." It also requests all information from anyone near Spread Creek during Aug 27-30.

Brian arrived in Florida on the morning of Sept 1. He was in transit on this journey on Aug 30. Gabby's phone sent a fake text to her mom on Aug 30.

While I haven't seen an official release of precise time of death and cause of death, by deduction it's clear that Gabby was dead before Aug 30.

The arrest warrant says no such thing. It doesn't mention Gabby or her death at all.

Warrant Issued – #8 in United States v. Laundrie (D. Wyo., 0:21-cr-00113) – CourtListener.com

 

[Fleur-de-lis]

That was a weird little snippet of info.. the times it was reported about this engagement stuff, it was Brian underlining the claim that Gabby was his fiancée, (the woman a man is engaged to ) in my experience, not something men are inclined to make a hoo--ha about... ..

I cannot recall anywhere where Gabby claims Brian as her fiancé... that is - the man she is engaged to.

And the times when Brian made a singsong about it, was, you guessed it, publicly, in a store, for example.

An Idaho store owner says missing Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie appeared 'happy' during a stop they made on their road trip

Sorry long link.

The Rustic Row owner:
"They seemed happy and when they left, she hollered back from the door that they were engaged and then I said congratulations," she continued.

But was this ever confirmed? TY and MOO

 

[LadyL]

I posted a link a while back for the trail cams, too My entire view of this "swamp" business changed after I researched the Carlton Reserve and saw all the trail maps and trail cams and such. From reading the thread, I thought Brian was in an actual alligator infested swamp! I didn't know it was really a recreation area with biking, hiking and horseback trails, canoe launches, picnic areas, etc. It's an actual park, not a swamp.

Here's the link again if anyone wants to check it out.

Trail Cameras

yeah I was under that impression too

 

[whiterhino]

I don't know what it was, but she was still wearing a ring on the ring finger of her left hand in the Moab video. I don't know if that still means anything to kids today, though.

There is a photo of Gabby and Brian holding hands. They both have matching leaf/vine tattoos and Gabby is wearing a silver ring on her left hand, ring finger. It's silver with a sunflower pattern/motif. Unless the photo is mirror-imaged/reversed but I don't think so as there are other photos of Brian with the same tattoo on his right hand (he's holding a fork and eating a salad).

 

[Hyway]

She worked at a restaurant by the Cape Fear river in Wilmington, NC.

Smoke on the Water. Its in a new, upscale type community that more like a small town than a housing development. And all I have seen is that she lived in Carolina Beach, but I don't know exactly where.

 

[simon magus]

The arrest warrant says no such thing. It doesn't mention Gabby or her death at all.

Warrant Issued – #8 in United States v. Laundrie (D. Wyo., 0:21-cr-00113) – CourtListener.com

i believe that poster is referring to the press release that was issued with the warrant and indictment, which does refer to those issues...

 

[Trooper]

An Idaho store owner says missing Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie appeared 'happy' during a stop they made on their road trip

Sorry long link.

The Rustic Row owner:
"They seemed happy and when they left, she hollered back from the door that they were engaged and then I said congratulations," she continued.

But was this ever confirmed? TY and MOO

Thanks for that, Fleur.. I cannot now find the one where it's Brian telling Gabby to tell the store owner that he is her fiancée,... this was how the store person put it , too.. that she had to be told to say it.

I was suddenly struck with sadness writing that. She was only 22.