Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #57

[SMK777]

I just happened to be thinking:
What would have triggered BL to vanish a couple days before Gabby was found? You would think her being found would send him fleeing.

But if she hadn’t been found, and it had been nearly 3 weeks, how did he know at that point that she wouldn’t be missing for months?

Whether he acted alone or with parental help, what caused the flight before Gabby had been found?

 

[jjonez]

I had received permission to post a video of an interview with the Chief Medical Examiner in Wisconsin I think (not sure). Oviedo put it on the media thread. It is very interesting. He spoke of 2 autopsies. Preliminary with the coroner then GP being transferred to either a local university, a military base, or possibly even Quantico for a second autopsy by forensic specialists. It was very interesting IMO. Worth watching. MOO

Update on body found at Wyoming’s Grand Teton National Park
The Teton County Coroner’s Office tells Fox News' Jeremy Copas that the autopsy on the body found Sunday that is believed to be Gabby Petito will be conducted tomorrow. The office is bringing in a forensic pathologist from Sheridan, Wyoming, about 360 miles
Gabby Petito: Police declare 'crime scene' as FBI enters Brian Laundrie's Florida home: LIVE UPDATES

 

[Hippononymous]

I just happened to be thinking:
What would have triggered BL to vanish a couple days before Gabby was found? You would think her being found would send him fleeing.

But if she hadn’t been found, and it had been nearly 3 weeks, how did he know at that point that she wouldn’t be missing for months?

Whether he acted alone or with parental help, what caused the flight before Gabby had been found?

Could it have been the video that the RVers made public with the location of the van? I'm not sure of the timeline, but that was only a few days before she was found.

 

[ce4au]

I disagree 100%.

Lol that’s fine. You can disagree. I have never been a fan of mom & dad Laundrie. I think they’ve been down right cruel individuals IMO. However, I do think if the FBI finally got CL alone when they’ve been wanting to talk to them, they would 100% try to establish a good relationship with him to try to gain some trust there. JMO of course.

 

[Cinna]

I just happened to be thinking:
What would have triggered BL to vanish a couple days before Gabby was found? You would think her being found would send him fleeing.

But if she hadn’t been found, and it had been nearly 3 weeks, how did he know at that point that she wouldn’t be missing for months?

Whether he acted alone or with parental help, what caused the flight before Gabby had been found?

That's an interesting thought. Maybe it's as simple as he was doing exactly what he said. He planned to hike in the reserve and planned to come home after. He had an accident, gator got him and it's nothing more than that.

 

[ce4au]

I think neighbor reported seeing him at Parents house 9/12 or 13.

Are you talking about the Guthries (the ones that did the FOX News interview)? Or a different one? If you were referring to the Guthries, I was just going to say, I thought they had said that as well, but went back & watched the full interview & they never actually said they saw him when the family returned to the house after they left that weekend. But I didn’t know if a different neighbor actually said they are the ones that saw him. I just wanted to throw that in bc I did go back & double check what the Guthries said. If it was a different neighbor, never mind haha!

ETA: fixed typo.

 

[Alethea]

Q. Should he be indicted for murder, would it be the same fed grand jury in WY that has indicted him for the fraud? How long do fed grand juries sit? ty jmo

It should be the same people. It's usually 6 months to a year or two, depending on the district. I am not familiar with the District of Wyoming but I assume it's much less busy than say the Southern District of New York.

Here's the handbook all the grand jurors get: https://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/grand-handbook.pdf

 

[4Erica]

Sorry if I'm rehashing old business but I ever since I found out about BL hiking barefoot I've been thinking about Cody Lundin, seeing a 12 to 14 year old BL watching his TV show and learning all his techniques...

Cody Lundin - Wikipedia
"In 2004, Lundin hosted the Discovery Channel show, Lost in the Wild.
Lundin was a co-host of the television series Dual Survival from 2010 until 2014.O the show, Lundin demonstrated various survival skills while wearing shorts in all weather and going barefoot"

CODY LUNDIN and ALSS: outdoor survival, bushcraft, primitive living skills, and urban preparedness courses

Do you depend on gear to feel safe?

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The Wisdom of Abo Dude

The Wisdom of Abo Dude
To all the techno-weenies with your space-age outdoor gear, Cody Lundin has some advice: For that day when your butt's on the line, you better know how to get primitive.
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Backpacker Magazine

"Central to Lundin’s approach to modern survival is his homemade survival kit. Weighing just under 4 pounds and small enough to fit easily in a fanny pack, the kit contains multiple-use items that will help any hiker stay warm, hydrated, and able to signal for help (see “Survival Kit” in sidebar). He recommends that fully equipped backpackers carry the fanny pack kit separate and wear it at all times."

I've seen a photo of BL with CL out hiking with packs and it appears BL has a fanny pack on the belt of his pack.

 

[cady]

It should be the same people. It's usually 6 months to a year or two, depending on the district. I am not familiar with the District of Wyoming but I assume it's much less busy than say the Southern District of New York.

Here's the handbook all the grand jurors get: https://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/grand-handbook.pdf

Thanks! Can they subpoena the parents for testimony? jmo

 

[Figuring]

I just happened to be thinking:
What would have triggered BL to vanish a couple days before Gabby was found? You would think her being found would send him fleeing.

But if she hadn’t been found, and it had been nearly 3 weeks, how did he know at that point that she wouldn’t be missing for months?

Whether he acted alone or with parental help, what caused the flight before Gabby had been found?

It seems possible that it was triggered by her being reported as a missing person on the 11th (it's not clear if police came by on the 10th & 11th related to this, as there are redacted calls from those days in relation to the residence) &/or the police towing the van on the night of the 11th (I believe it was at 10 or 11pm that night). Then he was gone by the morning of the 13th. My impression is he couldn't have expected the van to be towed so quickly. JMO

 

[Auntie Cipation]

So it does sound like they camped there the night or day she died, and he just left her there and took all their camping gear ... somewhere.

Posting with a dozen+ pages still unread...

My speculation about the Spread Creek site:

I don't think there was an intention to camp there (either where the van was parked nor across the creekbed where GP was found).

I saw the lined up flip flops and neatly placed book with sunglasses on top, both seen behind the van in the Bethunes' video, as staged for a Gabby vanlife image.

My speculation includes that BL perhaps became impatient with GP's attempts to set it up 'just so' before taking the photo or video so they could get everything back in the van and find an actual campsite.

He perhaps lost his temper, became violent, she died. At that point of course he ended up staying there for some time period to figure out what to do. (how many days did witnesses say the van was there unmoved?)

Maybe the site across the creek was part of their staged vanlife campsite too, or maybe the violence happened near or even inside the van (I know no post-mortem scent of her was found in the van by the dogs but apparently it takes hours before cadaverine appears) and he moved her out there perhaps under cover of darkness.

MOO

 

[Which_pancake]

That's an interesting thought. Maybe it's as simple as he was doing exactly what he said. He planned to hike in the reserve and planned to come home after. He had an accident, gator got him and it's nothing more than that.

Interesting - I have to say that is one scenario that hadn't occurred to me before... A coincidental accident.

 

[elmomom]

I think this is a good suggestion. If the credit or debit card that BL used was shared by GP with one of her parents, might that be why the indictment didn't mention the name on it? If the card is still in use, might they avoid giving both the name and the last four digits of the card? Or would the card have become useless after BL used it?

JMO

I think the most likely reason GP is not mentioned is that the victim of this crime is Capitol One Bank, not GP.

 

[ce4au]

Today while WS was closed in was reading prior posts and thinking. What if … BL had someone help him plan, make arrangements, leave the area and is in hiding. The cause of GP’s homicide has not yet been released, he knows the condition her remains are not in good of shape , so he’s hiding until a cause of death can’t be determined and he can’t be charged with her homicide.

Good Observations.

RBBM I mentioned this as well! Staying alive in that swamp for this long would be super impressive IMO I mean the dang mosquitoes in that place would have physically carried someone off by now. If he even gets a small cut, it could so easily get infected in that environment with that kinda water! He had plenty of time for someone to pick him up from the reserve & get settled somewhere else (maybe an apartment in someone else’s name, or just hanging out at someone’s house, etc.) IMO. I mean his parents would have given him almost 5 days!! I’ll be shocked if we find out he was in that reserve that whole time. JMO.

 

[EvieIvyOver]

I just happened to be thinking:
What would have triggered BL to vanish a couple days before Gabby was found? You would think her being found would send him fleeing.

But if she hadn’t been found, and it had been nearly 3 weeks, how did he know at that point that she wouldn’t be missing for months?

Whether he acted alone or with parental help, what caused the flight before Gabby had been found?

I get the sense it had to do with the calls and texts from GO's family, and the police showing up at their door. And probably getting a lot of pressure from his parents for an explanation as to what was going on.

 

[ce4au]

That's an interesting thought. Maybe it's as simple as he was doing exactly what he said. He planned to hike in the reserve and planned to come home after. He had an accident, gator got him and it's nothing more than that.

Question Bc I’m surely no gator expert haha. Do you think if a gator got him, that there wouldn’t be some trace of him? A backpack, etc. that the gator was like nah bro that doesn’t seem like it’d be that good? Lol.

 

[borndem]

Not necessarily. When there was activity there earlier in the week after it being quiet I pondered whether he had traveled to it to "cover" his parents after learning of the serious exposure they may have. MOO

Too late, IMO, but was this an act of er, ah, um, nobility on his part???? <gag>

 

[LRinCA]

I just happened to be thinking:
What would have triggered BL to vanish a couple days before Gabby was found? You would think her being found would send him fleeing.

But if she hadn’t been found, and it had been nearly 3 weeks, how did he know at that point that she wouldn’t be missing for months?

Whether he acted alone or with parental help, what caused the flight before Gabby had been found?

My theory is that he took off BEFORE she was found (figuring it was only a matter of time) so he could go off grid and then claim he didn't even know she had been found dead - if and when HE was found. One scenario I can see happening is him having a complete breakdown when (if found) they tell him she is dead. All part of him trying to carry through with the narrative that she went to California without him. Again, this is all my very far-fetched opinion - but one that I've thought of more than once.

 

[mlhenn]

Brian Laundrie search: Police did ‘everything we could’ to keep eye on him before disappearance | WFLA

8 On Your Side reached out to North Port police on Friday to ask whether there was any surveillance on Laundrie from the start of the Petito investigation up until he was reported missing.


“NPPD, Suffolk County and the FBI were doing everything we could to keep an eye on Brian, within the law, based on the facts and evidence we had at the time,” Public Information Officer Josh Taylor said. “I cannot speak to specifics and a timeline or what exactly was taking place.”

Taylor confirmed in the email that police did not speak to or see Laundrie on Sept. 11 when they visited the home. According to Taylor, his family would not speak to police and only handed over information for their attorney.

“We had no legal authority to enter the home,” he said.

 

[SMK777]

I just happened to be thinking:
What would have triggered BL to vanish a couple days before Gabby was found? You would think her being found would send him fleeing.

But if she hadn’t been found, and it had been nearly 3 weeks, how did he know at that point that she wouldn’t be missing for months?

Whether he acted alone or with parental help, what caused the flight before Gabby had been found?

Could it have been the video that the RVers made public with the location of the van? I'm not sure of the timeline, but that was only a few days before she was found.

Oh, yes, you may be right. He knew the location would be searched. Thanks!