Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #58

[cady]

I read that the sweatshirt had some sort of logo on it that was unique to New York, and it was a favorite shirt of Gabby’s. I assumed then that the remains were skeletal.

I heard something about Zion, but NY makes much more sense, as Schmidt seemed to be familiar with it. I wondered how he knew it was her "favorite". Especially since she had been away from NY for several years. jmo

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I don't take what he said to mean her head was detached...it could be that her limbs were, though. He said torso, and which direction her head was facing. I'm not sure he would say anything about which way the head was facing if it wasn't attached. That's how I understood what he said.

He is a first responder.... so his language is quite typical. I believe any speculation is totally speculation. We will knows these facts eventually.

 

[dkryder]

If his goal with exerting his willpower is to be right or good, I would agree. However, my theory on his behavior is he exerts his willpower where life/people/earth seems to want to control him.

If his goal (will) is to be good, he would turn himself in and follow societal rules.

His goal is to not be controlled so that is where he shows his willpower.

moo.

so why did he go back to his controlling masters, his parents?

 

[cady]

watch the Dr. Phil video, he is very compassionate and tender about it....

Not saying he is not compassionate, I just don't particularly like and never watch Dr. Phil. jmo ETA, same with John Walsh, for that matter.

 

[ShadyLady]

so why did he go back to his controlling masters, his parents?

I think he was beside himself...no where to go without Gabby. His whole world was Gabby.

Going back with her van indicated to me he was not thinking straight. I still wonder if his parents are the ones that encourage him to run. What were they thinking if they did.

 

[CarolynAB2]

I heard something about Zion, but NY makes much more sense, as Schmidt seemed to be familiar with it. I wondered how he knew it was her "favorite". Especially since she had been away from NY for several years. jmo

She had been living in Florida for two years I believe, but didn't she and BL start out their trip from NY? Maybe they stayed with her mom and stepfather for a bit before setting off and he could have seen her wearing that sweatshirt a lot.

 

[LeeJay55]

so why did he go back to his controlling masters, his parents?

Who says they are controlling masters?

 

[Chicago54]

She had been living in Florida for two years I believe, but didn't she and BL start out their trip from NY? Maybe they stayed with her mom and stepfather for a bit before setting off and he could have seen her wearing that sweatshirt a lot.

I believe they attended a siblings graduation before they left on the trip.

 

[TheGardener]

so why did he go back to his controlling masters, his parents?

Connections and money.
MOO

 

[JudgeJoe]

I heard something about Zion, but NY makes much more sense, as Schmidt seemed to be familiar with it. I wondered how he knew it was her "favorite". Especially since she had been away from NY for several years. jmo

Mom & step-dad stated during their Dr. Phil interview, part 2, that the sweatshirt was one of Gabby’s favorites & had a logo from one of her favorite local places. They did not state which “local” place- just that they knew for sure FBI had found Gabby- and not another missing young female from the area. Iirc

 

[cady]

I think he was beside himself...no where to go without Gabby. His whole world was Gabby.

Going back with her van indicated to me he was not thinking straight. I still wonder if his parents are the ones that encourage him to run. What were they thinking if they did.

Who knows? Maybe they suggested that he go talk to LE and rather than doing that, he took off, or they dropped him off, somewhere. jmo

 

[rosesfromangels]

Going back with her van indicated to me he was not thinking straight.

Snipped for focused reply, and BBM.

Agree. It would seem he has had similar difficulties for some time, based on the snippets we have read. I'm not one to give POI's hall passes, but in this case, BL seemed to be exhibiting problems in occasions prior to GP's murder. One such incidence was well documented by Moab LE.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[rosesfromangels]

Who knows? Maybe they suggested that he go talk to LE and rather than doing that, he took off, or they dropped him off, somewhere. jmo

Right. It is my speculation that whatever happened was well coordinated.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[nhmemorymaker]

She had been living in Florida for two years I believe, but didn't she and BL start out their trip from NY? Maybe they stayed with her mom and stepfather for a bit before setting off and he could have seen her wearing that sweatshirt a lot.

yes..they started in NY.

 

[CocoChanel]

Happy pleasant Saturday afternoon to all

A MOD NOTE that discussion about a mental health issue called ENTITLED DEPENDENCE SYNDROME is off topic and being removed. We cannot make or speculate a diagnosis unless we are professionals in the mental health field AND we have treated BL. No one here qualifies. That is why mental health issues are off the table.

ALSO, a general discussion of “failure to launch” etc. in today’s youth is OFF TOPIC. If you make a post that is simply about that, and there is no mention of this case, that’s a clue that is off topic. Generalized discussion about broad topics is too divisive to be solved on our forum. We have enough on our Websleuths plate with many differing viewpoints members have about the actual cases, and finding room to host them all respectfully and responsibly. Please understand why we just don’t have the space for the broader topics and personal stories.

TIP - Private Conversations are a good place to do that instead.

 

[borndem]

I wonder if he is still considering or already be hiking the App. Trail? Temps are starting t cool off a bit at night.

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[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

In the video of the Moab police stop BL stated something along the lines of complaints about his dirty feet.

When disagreements happen (marital spats, wars between countries, sibling arguments), it is usually over who will control the outcome. Both want to be in control.

If one conceded (walked away), there would be no argument. They would be arguing with themselves.

Requesting your SO have better hygiene is not a control issue. Not liking his unsanitary habits is not someone that is motivated by a control issue. Such a simple act of washing his feet to please his SO but Brian refused to do it. Asking him to wash his feet is no different than asking your SO to clean up their dishes, pick up their clothes because they are being a slob with no consideration for how that effects their SO . Where is his consideration for what makes Gabby comfortable? Not washing his feet is the hill he wants to take a stand on? I understand not wanting to share a tiny small space with nasty dirty feet. It is immature and petty to not want to accommodate that simple request. Controlling is someone who hides ID cards so the SO can not go out, makes them delete apps off their phone, all actions done by Brian. MOO

 

[BeanieBod]

I can't answer all your questions but I can answer the first one.

I don't think there's any conflict in the two reports. They camped the nights of Monday Sept 6 and Tues Sept 7. They then "checked out" and came home on Wed Sept 8. So the camping trip was Mon-Wed or the 6th-8th. But they were camping just two nights so in that way it was a 2-day trip. Same as going to the beach for a weekend. If I check into a motel Friday night and come back home early Sunday afternoon, I'd say I was gone Friday through Sunday. But my "stay" was only Friday and Saturday.

The first link below says docs show they arrived Sept 6 and checked out Sept 8. I've seen nothing to suggest that's not what happened except sloppy reporting. Also Dog made an unverified claim early on about the trip that appears to have been wrong. He said there was proof they also camped Sept 1-3 at the same place. It appears that wasn't true. And I've seen no proof of his "3 went in, 2 came out" claim for the Sept 6-8 trip. (2nd link below)

Laundrie family changed Fort De Soto campground reservations before Brian returned home, docs show

Dog the Bounty Hunter claims to have lead on Brian Laundrie


JMO

I would love to know if anyone has found any parks/places that they went on the 10th, 11th or 12th per SB. I was confused by his rambling as he is clearly not a camper.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I heard something about Zion, but NY makes much more sense, as Schmidt seemed to be familiar with it. I wondered how he knew it was her "favorite". Especially since she had been away from NY for several years. jmo

Gabby Petito’s stepfather identified her remains from a sweatshirt bought at her favourite clothing store on Long Island.

Gabby Petito: Stepfather identified missing woman’s from her favourite sweatshirt

 

[SouthAussie]

While BL parents have every right to plead the 5th. Are there any charges such as obstruction they could make stick enough to summons all their financials and anything else that may aide the investigation?

If they have something like CCTV of BL's parents vehicle following the Mustang to the reserve on the 13th - or whenever it was driven there - they would likely have enough reason to get a warrant for parental things that 'might assist in the discovery of BL's movements'. imo

(This would be considering the theory that someone else dropped the Mustang at the reserve and needed a ride to get home.)

I haven't actually looked to see if this kind of CCTV is a possibility. As I haven't traced the probable/possible route to the reserve on Google street view, to see if there are places that might have CCTV along the way.

I also haven't seen any calls for dashcam video for any specific period of time, which police sometimes ask for when they are trying to establish movements of vehicles/people.