Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #58

[GRT]

Do you think the parents were part of finding this shelter, and if so, that there’s evidence of that which the FBI might find?

I kind of doubt they helped him find a shelter, but they may have given him pre-paid credit cards that would allow him to order groceries, pay rent, etc.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Gabby’s family is pleading with BL to ‘do the right thing’ and turn himself in as his dad joined search-and-rescue teams in a Florida swamp to help locate his son.

The bereaved parents and step-parents said that they believe Brian is alive and living in a ‘campground’ somewhere. Gabby’s mother said, ‘We believe he knows everything’. She’s uncertain where he is but thinks he’s in an area like the AT or campground where he can live off the land. ‘He had those skills'. Gabby’s father thinks BL is alive, though he is unsure if he is still in the United States.

SB said, 'Although Chris and Roberta Laundrie provided this information verbally three weeks ago, it is now thought that on-site assistance may be better. The preserve has been closed to the public and the Laundries, as well, but the parents have been cooperating since the search began. I believe Brian is still in the preserve and as such, I don't think he has access to the news.'

After CL returned home, SB said, 'There were no discoveries but the effort was helpful to all. It seems the water in the Preserve is receding and certain areas are more accessible to search.'

We want him ALIVE: Gabby Petito's family are adamant Brian Laundrie is not dead | Daily Mail Online

 

[4mouse]

A thought that came to me as I scrolled through a lot of past posts:

DTBH speculated that BL’s parents bought a canoe around when they bought the camper/topper. He actually stated it as fact on a media outlet. but we won’t see proof of purchase unless and until there is ever a trial.

Everyone is focused on land searches in woodsy settings because that does seem to be something BL has experience and comfort with.
A theory that could be explored is:
What if he canoed to a boat belonging to someone he or his family knew? Or a strangers boat.
Either knowing the boat was docked and unused and could be used as a shelter/hideaway?
Canoe to a smaller boat?
Maybe when the Laundries bought camping supplies, could they have also purchased a small outboard motor?
This is my own speculation. MOO
Could this be a viable theory?

 

[A2FMNST]

Soooo, is it too soon to pick who will play BL in the Life Time movie?

Drake

 

[WizardQuest]

Yes - we are creatures of habit and comfort. When we hit our bottom is when we seek comfort most.

I believe comfort to him will be somewhere he has visited along his travels in life, but not travels with Gabby. Somewhere off the beaten path, abandoned structures of some sort. He comes across very in tune to what it takes to make it, at least for a small amount of time off the land. I suspect he would seek a place such as referenced above near a fresh water source. However, I would first eliminate places traveled with Gabby. His running nature and leaving her as he did leads me to believe it will not be a place where he sees her smile haunting him day to day from a prior visit. It would diminish his mental capacity while trying to sustain himself, and is the opposite of comfort.

He could have a seed vault in his back pack. They became very popular a few years ago and do not take up much space. His challenge will be getting through winter because now is not the time to begin a garden. He must get through winter first.

IMO: He will not be anywhere associated with any assets owned by his family. That is too easy for LE to find and figure out.

I also don’t believe his immediate family would be sending him money in any capacity. Again, too easy for FBI to monitor and track.

I don’t feel he would join a homeless community. I don’t feel he would find comfort in being surrounded by others. I sense comfort to him as being alone. However, I could see one off hitchhiking occurring as it is a minimal task to meet a need and beyond the ride there is no companionship or emotional reliance on the individual giving him a ride. It is a one and done. Very different from a community environment.

His comfort appears to be in warmer climates, unless I missed it I didn’t see any photos of outdoor adventures skiing or snowboarding and again, winter is coming.

Did he have a Google account? That could provide historical travel history not on his Instagram.
Did they find current/old laptops or phones he may have used? His search history could point to places LE would check out.
Where did the family vacation or camp when he was a child?
Where would be a place that holds positive memories to bring him comfort as he tries to survive? I think the emotional comfort will come from a place connected to his childhood. Maybe it was someplace he only went one time, but it holds positive memories for him to attempt to wrap himself in comfort.

All JMO and rambling thoughts this morning assuming he is alive. I do believe him to be.

A van?

 

[distracted]

Agree, if he is alive, being on the lam would and will be difficult to adapt for it is the antithesis of what he understands and how he has lived his whole life. “ I assume” moo-
This is not a movie and he’s no Jason Bourne. He would likely have to find a host to rebuild , since he has never lived on his own, and to have a “ place”to be.
For 6 years he was with someone and always living with his parents, aloneness is a lifestyle not suited for most, the mental adaption to singularity and living outside society and running from the FBI - is massive.
The novelty will wear off unless he is truly able to rebuild a life unattached- but we are social creatures and he is not Whitey Bulger who HAD a partner hiding with him in plain sight and access to 50 years of crime cash hidden behind his apartment wall.

I agree with you but creatives crave alone time to create.

I think it was a problem for them as a couple. He created alone and she needed him to create. I don't think that's what he wanted but didn't realize it until they were actually traveling. He couldn't do what he craved and resented her for being able to do what she craved.

 

[A2FMNST]

I kind of doubt they helped him find a shelter, but they may have given him pre-paid credit cards that would allow him to order groceries, pay rent, etc.

Or he is sleeping on Casey Anthony’s couch???

 

[Lilibeth]

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but "no PHYSICAL evidence" wouldn't necessarily preclude, say, cellphone pings. MOO

There is a lot that “no physical signs” does not include. MOO

 

[Lilibeth]

Agree with this post.

He raced to his parents home for a reason. He found comfort there being close to them, and in his familiar surroundings. I believe he knew he couldn't stay in the home because LE was coming for him, especially since GP's parents were questioning her whereabouts. He ran, but not far. With that, I do believe he's much closer than we think. I do feel it's only a matter of time. For him to leave the state or even the country, he would need a strong financial support. I don't believe he has that with the FBI watching. JMO

Also agree. MOO

 

[Cool Cats]

Former FBI agent says Brian Laundrie will likely be found in his 'comfort zone'

"People don't change because they become a fugitive," Former FBI agent Terry Turchie who spent a year in the North Carolina mountains between 1998 and 1999 leading the fugitive case against Olympic bomber Eric Robert Rudolph, told Fox News Digital. "They tend to try to figure out how they can land in the comfort zone."

Laundrie enjoyed hiking and traveling, so some experts have suggested he may be in the wilderness or on the road, and several potential sightings have added some credibility to those theories. Others have suggested the fugitive may be closer to home and could be getting help from another person.

Laundrie's sister Cassandra Laundrie described her brother in an interview with media as a "mediocre" survivalist.

"Clearly he's not out in some camp or some cave somewhere on the hard, cold ground or … snake, gator-infested water. He's somewhere where he's probably being taken care of," Turchie said. "When you see how he came running home after something obviously happened, that kind of tells you what he's probably doing now.

"But the formula is essentially the same," the former FBI agent said of the search process. "You interview as many people who need this person as you can, you continue following that. You talk to neighbors, friends and you look for anything [the fugitive] might have said during a time that he didn't have this guard up where he hadn't done anything."

Those clues, Turchie believes, will ultimately lead officials to discover Laundrie in the same way it has helped them discover other fugitives.

 

[GRT]

A thought that came to me as I scrolled through a lot of past posts:

DTBH speculated that BL’s parents bought a canoe around when they bought the camper/topper. He actually stated it as fact on a media outlet. but we won’t see proof of purchase unless and until there is ever a trial.

Everyone is focused on land searches in woodsy settings because that does seem to be something BL has experience and comfort with.
A theory that could be explored is:
What if he canoed to a boat belonging to someone he or his family knew? Or a strangers boat.
Either knowing the boat was docked and unused and could be used as a shelter/hideaway?
Canoe to a smaller boat?
Maybe when the Laundries bought camping supplies, could they have also purchased a small outboard motor?
This is my own speculation. MOO
Could this be a viable theory?

That sounds like a long shot, but you never know.

We know he also had access to a bicycle, since neighbors saw him and his mother riding. He could have left the bike near a remote edge of the reserve, parked his car and walked into the reserve knowing he was on camera, and then hoofed it over to his bike and took off that way.

So many options, but I tend to think DTBH isn't on the right track. JMOO

 

[kittythehare]

The warrant states he took in excess of $1000.
How much in excess, exactly?
Is money 'missing' from his family home too? Rhetorical question.

 

[FindingJoLee]

“We don’t track residents.” — @NorthPortPolice to me 9/17, the night #BrianLaundrie was confirmed missing.

We were doing “everything within the law that we could” to monitor him — NPPD last night, 3 weeks later.

What does everyone think?

Latest: https://bit.ly/3uVtAuA #HeyJB

https://twitter.com/WFLAJB/status/1446809929545879554

I think it's interesting that the Chief of Police mentioned that he "knew where Brian was at the moment" of that press conference (on Thurs, Sept 16.)

 

[TL4S]

Some unanswered questions regarding the timeline after the DeSoto camping trip... We know the reservations were originally Sept 1-3 but were cancelled and then new dates, Sept 6-8 were reserved. According to SB though, RL, ChL, BL were only at the campground Sept 6-7. And CL says she was there for about 6 hours with her family as well on the 6th (2pm-8pm). Why did ChL , RL, and BL leave on the 7th instead of the 8th as they reserved? SB put out a tweet laying out activity after this trip that I haven't seen brought up much. https://twitter.com/JossieCarbonare/status/1442914746483634177/photo/1 He broadly lays out that they also went other 'places' two different dates on what I am assuming is the weekend of the 11-12. Also here, https://twitter.com/JossieCarbonare/status/1442907932903940098/photo/1 he uses plural regarding parks and campgrounds. What are the other campgrounds/parks visited in that time? Why is SB offering this info?

I really think LE can probably account for BL up until Sept. 11th. The "eyes on him" is video footage from stores, cctv, neighbor sightings, whatever. But, suddenly, GP's mother starts texting the L family on Sept. 10th, warning them she is contacting law enforcement, and BAM, BL is never seen again.

I kind of wonder if BL just quietly waited once he got back to FL to see what was going to happen before bailing. The dumbest thing he did was drive that van home, though. It's a decision that suggests, imo, that he reacted quickly and without much forethought. However, he could have said, "yeah, mom and dad, we decided to take a break so she said she'd fly home..." (or whatever). He had to figure that eventually her family would come looking, likely contact police, and sooner or later he'd have to come up with something. But I bet he never imagined the world-wide attention this case would receive, or that his face would be plastered all over the internet. He probably hoped she'd never be found and nobody would even know where to look (he didn't know the van was on private video).

Maybe it's possible he took off early on 9/11. His parents knew something was up (if he hadn't already told them when GP's parents started calling) so they got their lawyer involved and by that night, when LE came knocking, they were prepared with his card.

For locals, how strict are they about parking at Myakkahatchee? If he parked a car in the lot on a Friday, would it get ticketed over the weekend? The ticket was placed on Monday. The date his parents last saw him has already changed once, so I'm not necessarily relying on that.

 

[scorpius]

Yes - we are creatures of habit and comfort. When we hit our bottom is when we seek comfort most.

I believe comfort to him will be somewhere he has visited along his travels in life, but not travels with Gabby. Somewhere off the beaten path, abandoned structures of some sort. He comes across very in tune to what it takes to make it, at least for a small amount of time off the land. I suspect he would seek a place such as referenced above near a fresh water source. However, I would first eliminate places traveled with Gabby. His running nature and leaving her as he did leads me to believe it will not be a place where he sees her smile haunting him day to day from a prior visit. It would diminish his mental capacity while trying to sustain himself, and is the opposite of comfort.

He could have a seed vault in his back pack. They became very popular a few years ago and do not take up much space. His challenge will be getting through winter because now is not the time to begin a garden. He must get through winter first.

IMO: He will not be anywhere associated with any assets owned by his family. That is too easy for LE to find and figure out.

I also don’t believe his immediate family would be sending him money in any capacity. Again, too easy for FBI to monitor and track.

I don’t feel he would join a homeless community. I don’t feel he would find comfort in being surrounded by others. I sense comfort to him as being alone. However, I could see one off hitchhiking occurring as it is a minimal task to meet a need and beyond the ride there is no companionship or emotional reliance on the individual giving him a ride. It is a one and done. Very different from a community environment.

His comfort appears to be in warmer climates, unless I missed it I didn’t see any photos of outdoor adventures skiing or snowboarding and again, winter is coming.

Did he have a Google account? That could provide historical travel history not on his Instagram.
Did they find current/old laptops or phones he may have used? His search history could point to places LE would check out.
Where did the family vacation or camp when he was a child?
Where would be a place that holds positive memories to bring him comfort as he tries to survive? I think the emotional comfort will come from a place connected to his childhood. Maybe it was someplace he only went one time, but it holds positive memories for him to attempt to wrap himself in comfort.

All JMO and rambling thoughts this morning assuming he is alive. I do believe him to be.

I've always heard Alaska is a good place to run and hide forever. Wonder if perhaps with his background, well....it would fit perfectly if he's ok with being a loner.

 

[Cinna]

Does anyone have any info or opinion on off grid living? I see people posting online looking for people to join their communities or looking for a partner. Some are extreme and want to completely distance themselves from society. Could Brian join one of those people who have the means and skills to live off grid and are unaware that he is wanted?

 

[GRT]

I think it's interesting that the Chief of Police mentioned that he "knew where Brian was at the moment" of that press conference (on Thurs, Sept 16.)

It's too bad he said that. It gives LE a bad reputation. And, it was a blatant lie.

 

[Chicago54]

About 5.1 miles from the Myakkahatchee lot to Hwy 72. An easy straight hike through that could be done in under 2 hours if moving fast. Hitchhike from the road, have assistance pick him up, or even pick up a vehicle left there for him. I'm very curious also about SB mentioning in this article, https://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-missing-1.50382998, that ChL was out searching the night of the 13th and how it could excuse ChL's truck being in or around the reserve later on Sept 13.

I can’t open that article, but SB cya on this makes no sense. First he claims the parents gave the wrong dates of BL going missing ( the 14th, instead of the 13th) because they based it on recollections of events around that time.
I’ve pointed out before that the 911 call on the 14 at 2:18pm and the rest of the days that week, and the car being ticketed at abt 2:45pm make this impossible to believe. And then Add to that the claim that CL searched for “ 4-5 hrs’ on Monday after BL didn’t return. ( and you don’t recall the day he went missing ?) When did dad search ? In the dark?
Sure enough SB realized the explanations are ridiculous and now is saying CL was searching in the dark. Right……

From my previous post, for the links:
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“Police returned to the Laundrie home on Sept. 14, 15 and 16 and twice on Sept. 17, the records obtained by Fox show. The records do not indicate who placed the calls.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...brian-laundrie-home-gabby-petito-missing/amp/


NORTH PORT, Fla. (NewsNation Now) — The Laundrie family attorney Tuesday said Brian Laundrie’s parents now believe they last saw him Sept. 13, a day earlier than they’d previously told investigators.

“The Laundries were basing the date Brian left on their recollection of certain events,” their lawyer, Steven Bertolino said. “Upon further communication with the FBI and confirmation of the Mustang being at the Laundrie residence on Wednesday Sept. 15, we now believe the day Brian left to hike in the preserve was Monday, Sept. 13.“


Brian Laundrie’s family changes story on when they last saw him | WFXRtv “

the 4-5 hours of search claim came from here:



https://mobile.twitter.com/BabyLyssaC/status/1445901927833686020/photo/1


I guess my point is both the parents and SB have clearly shown (IMO) they’re playing the Say-nothing- til -we-see-what-they-have. Then they make something up that fits with the known facts and when something new is discovered, they make up something new that seems to fit. Moo
IMO all that comes out of SB mouth is hooey.

edit to add: the other fact that came to light , which caused the Ls and SB to alter their “story”, Brian Entin posted more than once the photos showing a mustang in the driveway on Wednesday night, which blew away the claim that the Ks had gone to the reserve and retrieved the car on Thursday.
I now look at SBs proclamations with a different eye.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Soooo, is it too soon to pick who will play BL in the Life Time movie?

Well now, it's not going to be hard to find someone who looks just like him. They're everywhere.

 

[Lilibeth]

If all BL has left to live for in this life is the eventual movie that is made, how do you think he would want it to end? He’s got to be thinking about his end game. MOO