Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #58

[Which_pancake]

Does gas cost $1000 or more to get from Wyoming to Florida within a 2 day drive, or did Brian max out Gabby’s debit card and bank account?

(Btw, 1k is just the minimum amount to be criminally charged, he may have withdrew much more than that.)

Maybe he withdrew as much cash as possible and that is what he is living on now? Speculation only.

 

[TheGardener]

Agree.... if he is counting on his seeds to feed him he's got months of being hungry and winter is coming so. . . It's more likely he's going into OTHER people's gardens and taking whatever he wants, since we already know he's a thief. He steals art. He stole her credit/debit cards, he stole her money, he stole her van. He steals things. He won't be growing his own radishes, he will take other people's radishes.

JMO

...quite possibly stole a young woman's life. Nah, BL is holed up where his handlers can keep an eye on their little captive nomad. He's exchanged one prison for another. Mr. Independence has suddenly been thrust into the world of interdependence.
MOO

 

[ringbearer]

It said "no service, in Yosemite" jmo

Thanks. Do you have a link?

 

[Sachi]

Does gas cost $1000 or more to get from Wyoming to Florida within a 2 day drive, or did Brian max out Gabby’s debit card and bank account?

(Btw, 1k is just the minimum amount to be criminally charged, he may have withdrew much more than that.)

This was discussed a bunch of threads back and it was mentioned by someone crunching the miles.. that somehow it would cost in the 300's or so to return to FLA from Wyoming.

 

[dwfnurse]

IMO, and I have expressed-why does everyone think he is alive? I honestly don’t think he is intelligent enough to survive this long on his own and, I would guess, would be with limited resources. I think they should be looking for his body at this point.

 

[Nikynoo]

Thank you for finding that! That would have gone a considerable way towards paying for the van, I imagine. It was her van. Registered in her name.
And he TOOK it.. Grrr.

how can you see that article Kitty and I cannot? Do you have special powers?

 

[BeanieBod]

Yes - we are creatures of habit and comfort. When we hit our bottom is when we seek comfort most.

I believe comfort to him will be somewhere he has visited along his travels in life, but not travels with Gabby. Somewhere off the beaten path, abandoned structures of some sort. He comes across very in tune to what it takes to make it, at least for a small amount of time off the land. I suspect he would seek a place such as referenced above near a fresh water source. However, I would first eliminate places traveled with Gabby. His running nature and leaving her as he did leads me to believe it will not be a place where he sees her smile haunting him day to day from a prior visit. It would diminish his mental capacity while trying to sustain himself, and is the opposite of comfort.

He could have a seed vault in his back pack. They became very popular a few years ago and do not take up much space. His challenge will be getting through winter because now is not the time to begin a garden. He must get through winter first.

IMO: He will not be anywhere associated with any assets owned by his family. That is too easy for LE to find and figure out.

I also don’t believe his immediate family would be sending him money in any capacity. Again, too easy for FBI to monitor and track.

I don’t feel he would join a homeless community. I don’t feel he would find comfort in being surrounded by others. I sense comfort to him as being alone. However, I could see one off hitchhiking occurring as it is a minimal task to meet a need and beyond the ride there is no companionship or emotional reliance on the individual giving him a ride. It is a one and done. Very different from a community environment.

His comfort appears to be in warmer climates, unless I missed it I didn’t see any photos of outdoor adventures skiing or snowboarding and again, winter is coming.

Did he have a Google account? That could provide historical travel history not on his Instagram.
Did they find current/old laptops or phones he may have used? His search history could point to places LE would check out.
Where did the family vacation or camp when he was a child?
Where would be a place that holds positive memories to bring him comfort as he tries to survive? I think the emotional comfort will come from a place connected to his childhood. Maybe it was someplace he only went one time, but it holds positive memories for him to attempt to wrap himself in comfort.

All JMO and rambling thoughts this morning assuming he is alive. I do believe him to be.

Back to our fugitive. Article SBM:

“fugitives like Brian Laundrie "tend to try to figure out" how they can reach their "comfort zone" while on the run and are often located in those places.

"People don't change because they become a fugitive," Turchie, who spent a year in the North Carolina mountains between 1998 and 1999 leading the fugitive case against Olympic bomber Eric Robert Rudolph, told Fox News Digital. "They tend to try to figure out how they can land in the comfort zone."

Laundrie enjoyed hiking and traveling, so some experts have suggested he may be in the wilderness or on the road, and several potential sightings have added some credibility to those theories. Others have suggested the fugitive may be closer to home and could be getting help from another person.

"Clearly he's not out in some camp or some cave somewhere on the hard, cold ground or … snake, gator-infested water. He's somewhere where he's probably being taken care of," Turchie said. "When you see how he came running home after something obviously happened, that kind of tells you what he's probably doing now.

Turchie explained how a key player in the FBI's search for Rudolph in the 1990s was a man who shared some of Rudolph's interests. Rudolph had spent time talking to the man in his healthy food store in North Carolina, and the man ultimately gave the FBI helpful information…

Laundrie may similarly be around people he knows or trusts. Driving to far-off places, as he had been before his disappearance, is also "exactly the kind of thing that that may very well be what he's doing," but he would have to have finances in order to do so, Turchie said. One minor traffic error, too, could make "his fugitive run pretty short."

While all fugitives are different, they all "tire eventually, and many of them ended up being on the run for …. well over a decade," Turchie said, adding that he does not think Laundrie will be on the run for that long.

"But the formula is essentially the same.. You interview as many people who need this person as you can, you continue following that. You talk to neighbors, friends and you look for anything [the fugitive] might have said during a time that he didn't have this guard up where he hadn't done anything."

Those clues, Turchie believes, will ultimately lead officials to discover Laundrie in the same way it has helped them discover other fugitives.

Former FBI agent says Brian Laundrie will likely be found in his 'comfort zone'

I wonder if he had an connections in Hanahan, SC, where the family lived before moving on to Florida. Seeing that it is a touristy location, he could just blend in. JMO

 

[sarahboirin]

Thanks. Do you have a link?

Missing Gabby Petito's final text message to mom revealed

 

[simplemind]

Maybe he withdrew as much cash as possible and that is what he is living on now? Speculation only.

I looked up Cap One's daily ATM withdrawal limits for checking and savings; it is 1k per acct. So he could have withdrawn up to 6k (1k checking/1k savings per day x 3days)

 

[Shellinaya]

Reasons why B Laundrie will be picked up sometime (but it could be years)

1. Tendency to domestic violence. Wherever he has gone, Belize, Guatemala, NY he may or even will offend again. It may take some time but he may well do it again.The issue will be how good is cover story is when he is picked up. (possibly in a foreign country where the police don't care about FBI warrants much).

2. Inability to keep off social media. Eventually his discipline might break.

3. Need for a potentially ever increasing income string from his parents. Currently may be living on cash provided by the parents but that will end sometime. I don't see him as a likely person to get a regular job in a foreign country. He'd have to have fluent Spanish first. Could BL re invent himself as say an English teacher "Jose Gomez" in Belize and then try to move back to the US ? MY guess is that he has some variation on this in mind. Now, With minor plastic surgery (ears) and a fully developed fable, he could try to get in as an illegal immigrant and then become naturalised. ...

(SBM).

Yes he would need Spanish in much of Mexico, not all of it, and in much of central America. BL would not need Spanish to get a job in Belize. The national language is English. Everyone speaks it. I have been there several times and he could easily hide out there and get around without knowing any Spanish at all.

 

[cady]

Thanks. Do you have a link?

Not off the bat, but WFLA JB has discussed it numerous times and shown it (or a facsimile thereof) on his online show. Should we presume that it was not fact-checked? jmo

 

[sarahboirin]

Not off the bat, but WFLA JB has discussed it numerous times and shown it (or a facsimile thereof) on his online show. Should we presume that it was not fact-checked? jmo

Missing Gabby Petito's final text message to mom revealed

 

[makayla]

I think where BL is found will be determined largely by his frame of mind, and grounding in reality. If his mental state has deteriorated markedly, he will likely be hunkered down in the woods, running like a scared animal. (I think he's secreted away in a remote cabin, as posted upthread).

However, it's just as likely that he will be hiding in plain site. Grow the hair and neatly cut/dye it, add a mustache and plano glasses to hide those notable drooping eyes, put him in slacks and a blazer, and I could talk directly to him and not register that it was him. Our minds contextualize people. That's why we struggle to recognize people when they are outside the surroundings we normally see them, or are dressed very different.

What I'm counting on betraying him, in his behavior. Even tho we've seen BL acting all chummy with LE in that now infamous Moab video, it's questionable whether he could pull that off for any period of time. So, if he is existing in plain site, I speculate it's his behavior that will lead to his arrest.

Amateur opinion and speculation

Great post!!!

One other detail that stands out to me, besides the tattoos, is his distinctive hand movements. Anyone who has watched the body cam video from Moab will know what I mean. He would need to practice toning down talking with his hands if he wants to stay under the radar. JMHO …

 

[Sachi]

...quite possibly stole a young woman's life. Nah, BL is holed up where his handlers can keep an eye on their little captive nomad. He's exchanged one prison for another. Mr. Independence has suddenly been thrust into the world of interdependence.
MOO

I am jumping to assuming that the other person(s) would likely be his parents. It's a scary thought in light of Gabby's life being snuffed out by Bl (MOO). and suggests concealment by said "handlers",and then I think ... to what end? Where can he go. and live his life out, IF connected financially with his parents where it won't be revealed eventually. Granted, he has evaded the FBI for the last few weeks however, how long will that last? It is a big world yet he is not a career criminal , either are they so I just don't see them outwitting the pros.

 

[NCWatcher]

Here it is, about 5 mins in, her dad says that they leased her the Nissan Sentra.

Thanks for finding that.

It seems there was alot of discussion about who paid for the van on Thread #46. Someone said (won't call the person out by name ) that her dad said on Dr. Phil she traded in her Sentra to buy the van. It appears that wasn't what was said on the show but it quickly became an accepted "fact" on that older thread and in some of our minds.
JMO

 

[LMDlong]

I think this is the mixing up of 2 different facts. The license plate info from the family was actually just one that they saw and took as a sign that Gabby was with them. I don’t believe that it was her license plate as well.

I agree . I heard that in the interview by the family .

 

[ringbearer]

Here it is, about 5 mins in, her dad says that they leased her the Nissan Sentra.

Thank you! So a lease rather than rental -- which makes a whole lot more sense. And they wouldn't have been able to trade it in for the van. Just return it at the end of the lease. jmo

eta: actually, is doesn't make much sense to drive a leased vehicle across country either, because you'd exceed your mileage limit pretty darn quick and the extra miles are very expensive, imo. But it's been a while since I've leased a car.

 

[Nikynoo]

Does gas cost $1000 or more to get from Wyoming to Florida within a 2 day drive, or did Brian max out Gabby’s debit card and bank account?

(Btw, 1k is just the minimum amount to be criminally charged, he may have withdrew much more than that.)

does the US pay for gas per gallon or per litre? is $3.50 an average price for regular gas?

 

[BeanieBod]

Two unresolved questions—
1. Has anyone been able to find footage or a photo of the Laundrie house anytime between 9/11 and 9/14 but earlier than BE’s 6:54pm tweet on 9/14? I’ve been looking on and off for a few days.
SBM

SB talks about another camping foray to 2 separate places on 2 separate dates somewhere between the 10th and the 12th. Do we have any confirmation to this? Which parks? Were they making plans for BL?
So, what date did NPPD go to the house? Were they there when the van was towed away on the 11th?

 

[meatandcookies]

Here it is, about 5 mins in, her dad says that they leased her the Nissan Sentra.

It sounds like the Nissan was traded in early, and she was able to use that credit towards funding the van. JMO