Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #59

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  • #941
I don't recall her saying that. Not saying you're wrong but if you could provide a link please if you're stating this as fact.

Here is the longest Rose interview I have seen. But, of course I realized she might have only heard one side...

Brian Laundrie is 'well equipped' to survive MONTHS in the 25,000-acre nature reserve | Daily Mail Online

I also think that Brian's state of mind, is relevant in finding him. Wish there was a true professional profiler that would take the time to review everything that has come out so far. .....Not just look at clips of videos and make all sorts of assumptions. (I am sure FBI is not releasing theirs).

If I was being triggered by this case I could not be following it. I am trying to keep my bias out of it. Justice should not have a bias IMO.
 
  • #942
My guess would be bludgeoning. Maybe even one of those "campfire" rocks.

I agree - blunt force trauma. And I think he committed sucicide
 
  • #943
Yes, but would SB have advised staying quiet at the missing person's stage in that scenario? He knows how that makes his client look. In the Moab incident, BL was the victim so he had a shot at self defense. Wouldn't SB have gone that route if there was any case for it?

Two things here. 1, what jury would think a grown man as a victim when his girlfriend is the one dead. Better have witnesses and video evidence, and even then it's a long shot to get total exoneration.
2. SB isn't concerned with the optics regarding his client. Only what can and cannot be proven in a court of law. Do nothing, say nothing, and we'll hear what evidence they have and build our defense around that.
 
  • #944
Would it not be a federal charge in Wyoming?

Yes, Nikynoo, it is a federal charge if she was murdered on federal land. The thread moves so fast, but about 2-3 threads ago, a WS person said f it was determined she was murdered on federal land, the FBI will prosecute. I wish I could keep all the answers I find!
 
  • #945
Wow! These people are so callous. Unbelievable.

Callous? I would have done exactly the same. I'm not letting some mob turn my home into a sideshow to the extent I can prevent it. jmo
 
  • #946
Sure. Any time the client was (a) last seen with the victim and/or (b) is the victim's SO. He would be the first to be looked at in either or both of those situations. I'm sure some will say he would/should tell "all he knows" to "clear his name" if he is innocent. But I personally wouldn't take my chances on that if I didn't have an absolutely iron clad alibi. jmo
He, in my opinion, set up a fairly good alibi when he took off on his hike to Colter Bay area, told people who picked him up hitchhiking on his way back to camp that he was headed back to his fiancé who was back at the van working on her vlog. Then, he blew it, by instead of reporting her missing, or looking for her and asking other campers for help- he just left and took her cards and van, on his way to his parents house in FLA. And we know the rest..... shortly after her family began inquiring about her and the van was hauled away, he again absconded to who knows where. Both times he took off and that behavior is evidence of a guilty conscience. jmo
 
  • #947
If you watch the recording they were personal friends of the P's. Its near the end. I found the conversation disturbing.
One I know in almost certainty, is not a personal friend. IMO
 
  • #948
If you watch the recording they were personal friends of the P's. Its near the end. I found the conversation disturbing.
We watched it live last night and we posted the recordings. Fox broke it.
 
  • #949
Wow! These people are so callous. Unbelievable.
So it was ok to remove the laundry baskets that are being left there but no t the signs?
I would not want to be them!
Sorry I can’t imagine!
 
  • #950
In actuality it's not complete information, because we really don't know how many times he hit her.
Gabby said he didn't hit her. But, the general consensus seems to be that she was lieing to the police.
 
  • #951
Motive is set when just before visiting Gabby's friend, BL really doesn't want to go and doesn't want Gabby to go. This causes all the scenarios to fall into a process where BL doesn't want to go visit her friend, his existing frustration builds to the point where BL responds in rage. He wants to do what he can to change Gabby's intentions and prevent her from seeing her friend on her birthday.
This has just prompted a thought. I wonder if Brian didn't want Gabby seeing any of her friends or was it just this one in particular.
 
  • #952
I wouldn't agree that it rules out a gun, but there's not much to suggest one besides the thorough search of the reserve. Based on his behavior and the quick certainty of the homicide ruling, it had to be something physical. JMO


It could also have been ruled a homicide with clues other than her injuries. For example, if she was at all buried or hidden/moved around after death that could cause a coroner to conclude her death was caused by another.
 
  • #953
Two things here. 1, what jury would think a grown man as a victim when his girlfriend is the one dead. Better have witnesses and video evidence, and even then it's a long shot to get total exoneration.
2. SB isn't concerned with the optics regarding his client. Only what can and cannot be proven in a court of law. Do nothing, say nothing, and we'll hear what evidence they have and build our defense around that.
While I understand the answer to my original question, I still want to answer these:
1. He wouldn't potentially be going on trial for the Moab incident. I was assuming a lawyer would spin that in his favor and if the police could see him as the victim, a jury could too.
2. SB would be concerned with how the police view his client.

The silence seemed to me at that stage as a bank on her body never being found. While the chances of it weren't very good, it was quite a gamble. I assumed a lawyer would advise to cooperate with as little info as possible.
 
  • #954
Not to be morbid, but would being hit hard on the head with a rock cause an instant death? I have no idea but I guess that could be a possibility too. Just my own thoughts on what else could have killed her.
It would depend where on the head the injury was. The skull is thinner in some areas than others.
 
  • #955
Update:

Michael Ruiz on Twitter
Chris and Roberta came out tonight to take down this tribute to #GabbyPetito. The other sign remains in place in the corner of their yard. #BrianLaundie #wheresbrian

11:23 PM · Oct 10, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Michael Ruiz on Twitter
UPDATE: Chris Laundrie sprinted out in the dead of night to take down the other sign at #GabbyPetito’s makeshift memorial on the corner of his lawn.

11:26 PM · Oct 10, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Now, a REALLY savvy lawyer would have had them go out in broad daylight and lay the BIGGEST wreath on the pile, kneel in prayer for a minute, then sadly return inside their home. That's the difference between Johnny Cochran and SB. Creativity and professionalism.
 
  • #956
Gabby said he didn't hit her. But, the general consensus seems to be that she was lieing to the police.
Speaking only for myself and I think for many others, Gabby wasn’t lying intentionally. She was confused, very upset to the point of hysteria at times, and very afraid of something. Many experts have said that it is domestic violence in their opinion so she had reason to be afraid. I would guess intimidated as well by being questioned by four big policeman who were standing over her. As kind as they might have been, we have to remember she’s only 22.
 
  • #957
Update:

Michael Ruiz on Twitter
Chris and Roberta came out tonight to take down this tribute to #GabbyPetito. The other sign remains in place in the corner of their yard. #BrianLaundie #wheresbrian

11:23 PM · Oct 10, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Michael Ruiz on Twitter
UPDATE: Chris Laundrie sprinted out in the dead of night to take down the other sign at #GabbyPetito’s makeshift memorial on the corner of his lawn.

11:26 PM · Oct 10, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Now, a REALLY savvy lawyer would have had them go out in broad daylight and lay the BIGGEST wreath on the pile, kneel in prayer for a minute, then sadly return inside their home. That's the difference between Johnny Cochran and SB. Creativity and professionalism.
 
  • #958
Wow! These people are so callous. Unbelievable.
People are leaving laundry baskets and other items to harass and pressure the Laundries. This is not a loving memorial to Gabby. It's a strategic attack to make the Laundries break. Removing those items is not an insult to Gabby or in any way callous.
 
  • #959
For the sake of complete information, that is the same number of witnesses who saw Gabby strike Brian.
Here's a transcript of the call with BBM

From: Witness statement recalls Gabby Petito, Brian Laundrie domestic dispute in Utah



Dispatcher: Grand County Sheriff's Office. Hi, can you hear me sir?

Caller: Yeah. Hi, I'm calling. I'm right on the corner of Main Street by moonflower. And we're driving by and I'd like to report a domestic dispute to Florida with a white that Florida license plate. White Van, gentlemen. 5'6 Beard.

Dispatcher: Where's it at?

Caller: They just drove off. They're going down Main Street. They made a right onto Main Street for a moonflower

Dispatcher: Or what were they doing?

Caller: But what do you say?


Dispatcher: What were they doing?
Caller: We drove by him a gentleman was slapping the girl

Dispatcher: He was slapping her?

Caller: Yes. And then we stop. They ran up and down the sidewalk. He proceeded to hit her hops in the car. And they drove off

Dispatcher: You say that was a white van?

Caller: White van, I can give you the the license plate if you give me one sec. I took.

Dispatcher: What kind of white van like a big one?

Caller: It was a smaller van with the license plate of it was white. Florida license plate QFCG03. It was the make was a Ford Model was transit. Black ladder on the passenger side.

Dispatcher: Black ladder passenger side.

Caller: White Ford Transit.

Dispatcher: White Ford Transit. Okay, what's your name? (Long pause) And where did they? So they turned. They headed south on Main Street from Moonflower Market?


caller: Correct. They made the right turn.

Dispatcher: So they went north.

Caller: North. Yeah. So I'm not from around here.

Dispatcher: Okay. So you're right there by the post office.

Caller: right across the street. Yep.

Dispatcher Okay. And when they turned on to Main Street, they went right or left?

Caller: Right.

Dispatcher: Right. So they went north, north on Main. All right. I will let somebody know. Thank you.

Caller: Yeah, no worries.

Dispatcher: Bye.

BBM
1. Gabby struck Brian

2. Slapping the girl
(How many times 2, 3, 5?)

3. Proceeded to hit her
(Clocked her, gut hit, shoulder punch?)

He did not just go after her once.
 
  • #960
Not to be morbid, but would being hit hard on the head with a rock cause an instant death? I have no idea but I guess that could be a possibility too. Just my own thoughts on what else could have killed her.
It would depend where on the head the injury was. The skull is thinner in some areas than others.
 
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