Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #63

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I wouldn't invest in a vehicle that I'm not comfortable driving! Was the van her idea or predominantly HIS? Or was she just so invested in the "team" than it never occurred to her that the may be situations where she would have to drive? Guess we'll never know. jmo
For such a long trip you’d imagine they’d have to share the driving IMO I do with the husband but ours is so large I honestly get terrified parking it, it fills two spaces. I do think she was invested in the team and honestly if BL wasn’t the way he was IMO he wouldn’t have used it against her, my husband doesn’t, my husband use to be a plumber so he’s used to driving vans whereas I am not. Using her driving skills against her is just another way for BL to be mean to her. Let’s hope he’s caught soon.
 
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Brian Laundrie’s sister, family threatened, police records show | WFLA

8 On Your Side has been digging into police records to see the impact of the frenzy surrounding this case on the investigation.

While authorities have not released evidence linking Brian to Gabby’s death, as the manhunt continues, many are angry at Brian and his parents.

New records show the fury of this case extends 40 miles away to the home of Brian’s sister, Cassie Laundrie.

Cassie Laundrie and her husband outside their home
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Records obtained by 8 On Your Side show, Manatee County Sheriff’s deputies have dropped by the home numerous times in a span of two weeks.

The first call for help came two days after Brian was reported missing.

According to the calls for service log, on Sept. 19, Cassie’s husband James reported he was getting “messages from random people.”

The messages included threats about “killing his family and kidnapping his kids.”

Following the threats, deputies periodically checked in on the family. On Oct. 1, there was a call about “suspicious circumstances.”

Officials investigating and dismissing a possible Brian Laundrie sighting. Then, there’s the disturbance from the protestors.

“We’re not supposed to talk with anybody and you’re making my children cry,” said Cassie Laundrie.

Cassie Laundrie even took questions from a small group of protesters outside her home and clarified some of the timelines around her brother’s disappearance and the death of Gabby Petito.

Former FBI agent Dr. Bryanna Fox says each time there’s a false sighting, a trespasser or a threat, precious resources are pulled away from solving this case.

“Anytime that there’s a death threat made against somebody, law enforcement takes it extremely seriously,” said Dr. Fox.

“It is illegal, it is irresponsible, it is extremely harmful and on top of it, it’s going to just make finding the person whose responsible for Gabby Petito’s murder that much more difficult.”

Threatening and upsetting their children is inexcusable. Media can question the adults (if they agree) but random protesters making threats shouldn’t be tolerated — leave the kids alone. I hope they learn who made/is making the threats and that some type of charges can be filed.

MOO
 
  • #103
I didn't realize he told her she was terrible at driving the van! It wouldn't surprise me, because every male that has ever ridden with me complains about my driving--I definitely see a pattern. Can you point me to some reading on Brian's influence over Gabby's feelings of discomfort with driving the van?

I'm not sure we actually know that BL convinced GB she couldn't drive the van. I've read over and over on WS that happened but what documentation do we have of that?

I think we know she didn't like driving it because she said so in the Moab interview. But do we know why? Other than deciding BL was a controlling person and so he must have done that? That GB couldn't have any other reason for feeling that way?

I'd think it could be hard to switch from driving a Sentra to driving a small but top-heavy van. Also you'd have to be pretty good with mirrors to park the van since it doesn't have windows on the sides in the back. And a used 2012 probably doesn't have a camera. Others have said it might be a manual...I guess that's possible although even in 2012 those were hard to find outside of sports cars.

People have also wondered if BL made her buy it. I guess that's possible too but it would have been hard to do "van life" without a van, I'd think.

JMO


Edit: fixed typo
 
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  • #104
The sister of BL saying she is being ignored by her family and being thrown under the bus by the attorney is interesting. It kinda points in the way of her being left out of what is truly going on/where BL went and how far his parents have assisted him.

Very curious indeed.
Imo they are.protecting her!
 
  • #105
I don't know how much weight we should give to Rose's comments about what Gabby told her about BL's "episodes", but I think that she described a certain "look" that he would get at their onset. And I think when that happened, G would leave and go to Rose's for the night, when they were in FL. I don't think that they had set up a tent in the spot she was found, but that she ran to get away from him and he caught up with her there, or pulled her in there, concealed by the trees. If those sandals we saw behind the van were her hers, she may have been barefoot, in her hurry to get away. She reportedly was clothed, but no mention of shoes. Also, we don't know what her step-dad was told, but I imagine, not a lot. I think that he was trying to piece together the scenario, and imagined a tent and a campfire, like I am imagining a run-for-your-life scene. BL had to know that he had killed her whether or not he tried to revive her may never be known. I just think that if he thought she was still alive, he wouldn't have packed up his pack, grabbed his tarp, put on his hiking boots and bolted. jmo
One problem I have with this; there were signs of an actual campfire where Gabby was found.
 
  • #106
I watched a wflanow live stream at some point after BL had been declared missing, the first few days, I think. Walt buteau reported taking a call from a source who is a psychic. She said that BL would be found 28 days from that day, near water. I didn’t think too much about it, I thought/hoped thatBL would be found much sooner. At this point I think that date must be approaching. Now I recall that report and wonder.

MOO

Today is October 13th. BL disappeared September 13th.
 
  • #107
I'm not sure we actually know that BL convinced GB she couldn't drive the van. I've read over and over on WS that happened but what documentation do we have of that?

I think we know she didn't like driving it because she said so in the Moab interview. But do we know why? Other than deciding BL was a controlling person and so he must have done that? That GB couldn't have any other reason for feeling that way?

I'd think it could be hard to switch from driving a Sentra to driving a small but top-heavy van. Also you'd have to be pretty good with mirrors to park the van since it doesn't have windows on the sides in the back. And a used 2012 probably doesn't have a camera. Others have said it might be be a manual...I guess that's possible although even in 2012 those were hard to find outside of sports cars.

People have also wondered if BL made her buy it. I guess that's possible too but it would have been hard to do "van life" without a van, I'd think.

JMO



JMO
She said she "usually doesn't drive the van", not that she didn't like it. RE cop cam. That is what leads me to believe that he had exerted control over her vehicle, actually her "house". I believe that because of some of the things he said, as in "I gave her time......." for her internet work. It's clear to me who controlled what in that relationship. I doubt that Gabby ever would have tried to speed away from the cops with lights blazing right behind them.

IMO
 
  • #108
Today is October 13th. BL disappeared September 13th.
Let today be the day he’s caught. Do we know if they are still searching the reserve?
 
  • #109
I was wondering if anyone believes that GP and BL actually camped at the spot she was found or was it a dumping site? I do not believe that she camped there at that location. First reason, she appeared to camp close to the van at other campsites per her posted video. Second, very rocky terrain to go back and forth if you needed to go back to the van. Also, it was posted that she sent a snapchat about heading to Yellowstone on the 27th. In addition, the van was left in a very isolated location, almost hidden by trees. I wonder if she would have even been located if not for the Youtuber's Go Pro video. I wonder if they got into an argument inside the van on their way to Yellowstone. Perhaps, he pulled over because he didn't want to experience what he had in Moab. Could he have strangled her right in the passenger seat somewhere between Jackson and Spread Creek Rd turnoff?

On Dr Phil, the step father mentioned a firepit and a clearing area where a tent would have been. It's possible that the firepit was there long before she was placed there.

Also, she was wearing a sweatshirt. Would a sweatshirt be worn in the afternoon hours in Jackson during an August afternoon.

Would love to hear the thoughts of others.
thank you for reading
I suspect they didn't camp there, and I suspect she wasn't killed there. Looking at the spot on Google Earth - it's the sort of place someone would go to get rid of a body. Putting myself in his situation, I've scoured the satellite maps and can hardly identify anywhere 'better' in the vicinity. It's a small, quiet road going into a forested area - not perfect, because it is right on the roadside but I can imagine an increasingly desperate search for a suitable place and much frustration at not finding any side trails or unpeopled places. In the end, it seems he decided to carry her across the river as a way of hiding his tracks because he parked at the very closest point to the riverbed. He presumably carried her across at night, and at night it must have seemed far wilder and more inaccessible than it actually is.

Who knows where he actually killed her - perhaps at any ordinary layby. Obviously, though, he wouldn't want to drive around with a body in the van for too long, so I guess it would not be more than an hour or so away.
All pure speculation of course.

I imagine the whole experience would be enough to unhinge his mind and anything he did after that would hardly be rational.
 
  • #110
I wouldn't invest in a vehicle that I'm not comfortable driving! Was the van her idea or predominantly HIS? Or was she just so invested in the "team" than it never occurred to her that there may be situations where she would have to drive? Guess we'll never know. jmo
I can't remember where this came from but Gabby's dad said that the van was her idea, She traded in her Nissan Versa for it and he (JP) helped her with the extra money needed. The van was a automatic if that means anything to you all.
 
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Was the van automatic or manual? If she was use to an automatic then she might not like the manual, I have an automatic car and manual van and I will admit I really don’t like driving the van unless I have to, I have driven it but I’m not confident. IMO
The van is an auto.
 
  • #114
I do not know if anyone has discussed the possibility that Brian is hidden away in some institution some where?

I gather it must have been discussed at some point, but I have certainly missed 1000s and 1000s of postings on this high-speed forum!

In the Vallow/Daybell murder case and the SC Murdaugh murder case, suspects have ended up in rehab/mental institutions with zero communication from behind the walls.

Hope one of our legal beagles can address.... If he had turned himself in some where, what level of secrecy or protection would he be entitled?
"A hospital may disclose patient information to law enforce-
ment authorities if the hospital believes, in good faith, that
the disclosure is necessary for identification or apprehension
of an individual."
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...singinfo.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3xXZfjKNc6oyBrEFtJz1Zo
 
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I think RAGE is what killed her!
Ita.
Still wondering if it was planned somewhat in advance after Gabby (possibly ?) told him she wanted out of the relationship ?
 
  • #117
I'm not sure we actually know that BL convinced GB she couldn't drive the van. I've read over and over on WS that happened but what documentation do we have of that?

I think we know she didn't like driving it because she said so in the Moab interview. But do we know why? Other than deciding BL was a controlling person and so he must have done that? That GB couldn't have any other reason for feeling that way?

I'd think it could be hard to switch from driving a Sentra to driving a small but top-heavy van. Also you'd have to be pretty good with mirrors to park the van since it doesn't have windows on the sides in the back. And a used 2012 probably doesn't have a camera. Others have said it might be be a manual...I guess that's possible although even in 2012 those were hard to find outside of sports cars.

People have also wondered if BL made her buy it. I guess that's possible too but it would have been hard to do "van life" without a van, I'd think.

JMO



JMO
I wouldn't want to drive a vehicle that requires total dependence on side view mirrors!

Now you've added another new piece of information (to me)--Brian made Gabby buy the van? I had not read about that before. With all the planning she was reported by her mother to have been doing, I thought she was really into it. Did Gabby want another type of vehicle? Or is the thought that she really didn't even want to take this trip, period?
 
  • #118
I'm not the only one who has raised an eyebrow at the fact that the coroner is a current family practioner. But, it sounds like lots of specialists were brought in to assist.
I guess I am confused why that would raise an eyebrow?
 
  • #119
Today is October 13th. BL disappeared September 13th.

Indeed. The prediction was made several days after he was reported missing, iirc. Not giving it that much credence, really. Just food for thought as another day begins without having located BL.

moo

ETA- italics!
 
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What reason do you have for being sceptical of his qualifications?

I'm having a really hard time understanding all these negative comments aimed towards the coroner.

My qualms have arisen because he said multiple times that due to WY statutes he couldn't say more than COD and MOD. And then he did. Maybe the DV comments were an "oops." I don't really believe that but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But appearing on talk shows later on was obviously thought out in advance.. premeditated if you will. That seems wrong especially when he shared more than he shared at the official press conference he apparently called.

So I wonder about his qualifications and experience too.

JMO
 
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