Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #68

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  • #301
I have a van and friends who live in their van permanently, they love it, although the single ones do get lonely from time to time, they wouldn’t change it. Me and my husband are moving into ours next year, it’s basically a house on wheels, sink, fridge, shower, toilet, queen sized bed, log burner etc. It’s not for everyone but it is sustainable. IMO

Your's sounds more like a camper or RV as opposed to the tiny van Gabby had. It's barely manageable for Gabby to have lived in, never two people. But I think they were using it as transportation and hanging out in and sleeping in tents along the way. jmo
 
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Realistically though, where would they go? And if they did go somewhere I feel like it might look worse leaving when their son is missing and supposedly last seen in that area. IMO.

I kinda feel at this stage that they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Whichever option they choose they're going to have it analysed and criticised and hated on.

MOO
 
  • #304
Forgive me for quoting my own post, but I have always found this photo so disturbing and haunting. What started with such order, such tidiness, such promise and pride devolved into utter chaos. Just like the relationship did on that trip.

It's horrifying that things went so utterly wrong.

I have a slightly different perspective as it relates to the state of the van. The lighting is not done in the Moab stop for an instagram photo which can completely change the feel of what is being photographed. When I look at the photo, I see a backpack or something on the floor along with a skateboard, something folded up on top of the same patterned comforter, a yellow ball and maybe one or two things out of place.

I can see the Moab photo as what the van may have looked like from point A to Point B during travel, but overall I still see what was in the first photo when focused on the physical contents and state. Just a point of view.

I suppose I offer this POV as a way to consider if Gabby was ending things, her van could have still been her home to move forward with her life as she planned.
 
  • #305
If its of any comfort, Brian has been elevated by his behavior and the behavior of his handlers to the level of a bounty hunter's Holy Grail. Take a look at the seething anger of the protesters outside the Laundrie lair. A LOT of people are insanely angry at Brian. The general public may be in danger of Brian's lack of self-control, be HE's got a world of danger surrounding him.
Case in point. Remember Richard Ramierez aka The Night Stalker? Shortly after being named a suspect in a string of grisly murders, he got front page news and a full frontal. When he got off his bus and saw his face on the cover of the daily news, he decided to head for a residential neighborhood to hide out. He was spotted, recognized, and the entire neighborhood piled on him. If the police hadn't responded to a call from the neighbors, he would have been beaten to death. El Diablo. Those people were NOT interested in his story, an assumption of innocence, or a jury trial. They wanted him dead, dead, dead. By the time the cops arrived, his face looked like two pounds of ground round.
Right now, there's a $180K bounty on his head, the FBI, the US Marshals, local law enforcement, INTERPOL, and every bounty hunter wannabe has Brian on the brain. Brian evades gainful employment for a living. He's not a professional fugitive. He has a few options: he can be turned in by his handlers, he can turn himself in, he can put a bullet in his brain (or Joe Ray Bob the fat guy in camo can do it) or he can run until he's gone completely crazy and is doing who knows what among the general population until he is mercifully captured by professionals. If the Laundries (daughter included) are proven to have done even the remotest thing to aid in his escape: no more lawn mowing, no more cozy home, no more business, no more retirement nest egg, no more bouncing the grandkids on their knees. The lawyers will own them...at the least. LE doesn't like being made fools of.
So Brian's problems have been compounded by the idiotic decisions made by himself and his handlers. Whatever chance he had to tell his side, negotiate with LE and cut plea deals is slipping away moment to moment. For whatever unknown reason, Mr. Laundrie Sr. either doesn't realize all this stuff...or doesn't care (cue that big grin during the phony "search" in gator paradise). If their business isn't sapping away as we speak, I would be surprised. Their safety, their future, their old age, their savings, their lives are dwindling away. Imagine having all of that rolling around in your noggin when your head hits the pillow at night.
This saga is nowhere near over. Patience.
Excellent points. ^^^

After watching this case unfold and with what little we know from msm; my .02 is that IF Brian's parents know where he is -- and care about him, they need to do the right thing and urge him to turn himself in.
Otherwise someone could harm him or he could harm whomever is protecting him if they 'cross' him or annoy him in any way.
Domestic abusers can be difficult to live with, even if it's not partners but people sheltering him ?
They become enraged over the smallest slight.

Or he could take his own life ?
No one wants that.
He needs to be brought in to answer the Petito family.
They deserve this at the least; they've lost their child.
It doesn't get any worse than that.

I'm assuming that he's not supporting himself at this time ?
Who are his handlers if he has some; and whom that might encompass ?
How far back does the lawyer, SB, go with the parents and do the parents have any other connections from the past who are helping to 'make this go away ' ?
Because, newsflash to them if this is a valid scenario -- it's not going away anytime soon.

Justice for Gabby and her family !!
They are the only victims.
And we are here for the victims.
Imo.
 
  • #306
Your's sounds more like a camper or RV as opposed to the tiny van Gabby had. It's barely manageable for Gabby to have lived in, never two people. But I think they were using it as transportation and hanging out in and sleeping in tents along the way. jmo
Hers is small and mine is a long wheel base, high top but it is a converted van. When you said vanlife, I thought you meant all of vanlife. I think if she wanted it to be permanent she would have bought bigger, for what she wanted to do, a smaller van works because it’s cheaper on fuel and also easier to park in places too. MOO
 
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For me, I'm having a hard time thinking kindly and offering the benefit of the doubt to both of BL's parents. In fairness, there is nothing particularly outstanding or offensive about their appearances, their possessions, etc., but in context to the situation, I'm finding all sorts of things to be judgy about. It's our human nature, I guess. Here's what I simply can not get past as a woman.

As a woman and a mother, RL should have called GP's mom *immediately* and told her GP didn't come back with BP; is she with you, is she ok? Or, if she knew GP was deceased, she should have told GP's mom..."Gabby didn't come back with Brian; something is wrong. I don't have all the details, but I wanted to call you immediately"

If she wanted to lawyer up after that, so be it. But a real woman would have called Gabby's mom. Gabby lived in her home! She was part of their family (or was she?). Not calling Gabby's mom is unforgivable. But no, she didn't call GP's mom, and Gabby was left outdoors to be desecrated by wild animals. Evil, pure evil, imo. What type of a woman, a mother, can allow such a thing? (Allegedly)

So it's easy for me to look at them with disdain and contempt and find all sorts of things to be disgusted with. I'm human.

Amateur opinion and speculation

RBBM

A mother who puts her child before the child of another?

Can we level criticism at her for not being a "good mother" and contacting Gabby's parents, when in doing so would've made her relinquish any natural motherly instinct to protect her own son?

MOO
 
  • #308
A moment of levity, riffing on how common BL's look is:

2CE70F94-2FD1-461A-9CB8-FE2B20E86DDB.jpeg Source: a clickbait article from twitter I am unable to find again
 
  • #309
I read the article and at the end of it, they state that they pay for stories. It would make me sick to see someone else profiting from this tragedy, like one more vulture to add to the list.

I just read the article. South Africa and New Zealand, huh? It is possible he got on a plane already with that two week head start and went to NZ or SA - but Interpol would know this, unless he used fake credentials. But this confirms for me he doesn’t speak any other language but English. He is definitely not in Mexico or South America. MOO
 
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Young people don't define "friends" the way older folks do.
They will when they are a lot older and are perfectly content to have 2 or 3 friends! jmo or even one, for that matter!
 
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Are you suggesting that after his hike, when rational thoughts returned, he went back and strangled her??? I think he's dumb and thoughtless, lol, but Just MY Opinion

Well, that is possible, but I meant that after he strangled her in a storm of emotion, he went out on foot to walk and calm down. Probably picked a random direction. And then when he calmed down, he hitched back as reported by two different people. Then did whatever other cleanup he needed and left in the van.
 
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Brian had to have told his parents something when he returned. They had the lawyer on speed dial when the cops showed up on Sept 11.
 
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I think if it wasn’t for the Red White & Bethune video, Brian could potentially claim that he never set foot in Spread Creek, nor did the van, and that he left her somewhere else, or that she was dumped there. The witnesses who picked him up hitchhiking could lend further proof, but that video is irrefutable.
 
  • #314
IMO, this is the condo that BL's parents owned that Gabby and BL lived in per Rose's description. It is decorated the way a young couple would decorate it and it is very close to Publix where BL worked and Taco Bell where Gabby worked. We now have an MSM link that shows Gabby & BL lived in a condo owned by his parents. They sold this condo to someone from another state last June. So we are NOT sleuthing the parents as this is not their property anymore, but this fits where Rose says Gabby and BL lived.
Thanks for the quoted link for the msm connection.
What did Brian do with Gabby's possessions when he returned to clean out the condo ?
B. or the Laundrie parents need to return Gabby's things to her family.
MOO.
 
  • #315
Moving away from florid bedspreads and kitsch condo decor:

I posted this article linked from The New Yorker in thread #67, describing US Marshals breaking through the door of the BL look-alike in North Carolina. The look-alike was hiking the AT, and took lodging for the night, where he reports –

“...“Next thing I see is a bunch of guys with riot shields with ‘U.S. Marshals’ written on them,” Beckwith said. “Handguns pointed at my face...”

Some of us have wondered about the resources, time and expense of the prolonged search in the Carlton Reserve, and the possible reason/s for it.

Perhaps this article verifies LE do consider, or even believe BL is alive, and that they do follow up on reported sightings of him.

It’s encouraging, IMO, to note authorities follow up on leads received as far from Florida as North Carolina.

Bounty Hunting for Brian Laundrie in a Land of Look-Alikes
That's a great article and gave me a much-needed laugh! :D Thank you for posting!
 
  • #316
Brian had to have told his parents something when he returned. They had the lawyer on speed dial when the cops showed up on Sept 11.
Ita, they did.
Plus, they had the lawyer's name written down to hand to LE.
Some premeditation and forethought there.
Or was it foreshadowing ?
What did Brian tell them ?
Imo.
 
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IMO, this is the condo that BL's parents owned that Gabby and BL lived in per Rose's description. It is decorated the way a young couple would decorate it and it is very close to Publix where BL worked and Taco Bell where Gabby worked. We now have an MSM link that shows Gabby & BL lived in a condo owned by his parents. They sold this condo to someone from another state last June. So we are NOT sleuthing the parents as this is not their property anymore, but this fits where Rose says Gabby and BL lived.
Yes. You’re a very smart and intuitive poster. Thanks for the tip fellow sleuther. It takes a village…
 
  • #318
RBBM

A mother who puts her child before the child of another?

Can we level criticism at her for not being a "good mother" and contacting Gabby's parents, when in doing so would've made her relinquish any natural motherly instinct to protect her own son?

MOO
I understand your point, and admit it would be a horrible decision to be faced with. I hope that if in a similar situation I would do the right thing. Note that from my post my suggestion was to inform GP's mom that Gabby was missing. That's as far as i took that train of thinking. I agree, it would be a difficult thing to do, but i stand firm in my belief that it would have been the right thing to do.

Amateur, personal opinion and speculation
 
  • #319
IMO, this is the condo that BL's parents owned that Gabby and BL lived in per Rose's description. It is decorated the way a young couple would decorate it and it is very close to Publix where BL worked and Taco Bell where Gabby worked. We now have an MSM link that shows Gabby & BL lived in a condo owned by his parents. They sold this condo to someone from another state last June. So we are NOT sleuthing the parents as this is not their property anymore, but this fits where Rose says Gabby and BL lived.

The link provided said it sold in March 2021, not June. But if they moved in March 2021 to the Laundries' I guess they could have put stuff in storage then. It's not really clear though when they lived with Cassie or why Rose said they didn't live with the Laundries.
JMO
 
  • #320
They will when they are a lot older and are perfectly content to have 2 or 3 friends! jmo or even one, for that matter!

Perhaps, but lots of people live on social media these days. Between facebook, twitter, you tube, tik tok, etc they can "meet" people from all over the world.

Younger people tend to be more open to forming non traditional relationships, whether just with friends or lovers.
 
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