Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #75

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  • #321
Aside from the obvious senseless loss of two lives and its effects on their families, what I find most heartbreaking are the two candid shots we have of GP and BL in Utah just weeks and days before the Moab stop.

Zion National Park (Late July?)
Brian & Gabby NEW video - Couple 'seen holding hands' weeks before murder

Arches National Park (Aug. 10)
New photos among the last of Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie together

These are not perfect-life photos staged for SM. They are glimpses into a real moment. BL and GP holding hands, talking, smiling and laughing together. They look genuinely happy even without knowing a camera is watching.

I realize DV can probably look this way on the outside. I get it. But still...

What the **** happened?
 
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  • #322
If I lost my client and he ended up dead while I was refusing to produce him to LE, I'd be really upset, not taking victory laps.
You might have seen, last night on Cuomo they were already alluding on air to a future sit-down w the Laundries... I thought it was SO, so tacky.
 
  • #323
Probably not a well received take, but I feel bad for the Laundrie family. It seems like they've cooperated fully since they reported their son missing but have been harassed and trashed since this case blew open. <modsnip>

I hope they and the Petito family can find answers and peace.
 
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  • #324
Joey Jackson just said on HLN that posthumous prosecution is possible, talked about for transparency for Gabby's family and that the investigation will be completed including how he died.

YAY.

If Gabby's parents want it, I hope they get it.
 
  • #325
They never said that. They said they "knew exactly where he was" repeatedly until the 17th, when he was reported missing, and then their PR became "We had no reason to keep him under surveillance, he wasn't a suspect in a crime, we don't track citizens, and you are all a bunch of meanies" (paraphrasing slightly).
I must say that I totally agree with your reasoning. If LE had done their job in the beginning of this case, ie., kept BL under surveillance, then he would not have disappeared and his death could have been prevented.
 
  • #326
Aside from the obvious senseless loss of two lives and its effects on their families, what I find most heartbreaking are the two candid shots we have of GP and BL in Utah just weeks and days before the Moab stop.

Zion National Park (Late July?)
Brian & Gabby NEW video - Couple 'seen holding hands' weeks before murder

Arches National Park (Aug. 10)
New photos among the last of Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie together

These are not perfect-life photos staged for SM. They are glimpses into a real moment. BL and GP holding hands, talking, smiling and laughing. They look genuinely happy even without knowing a camera is watching.

I realize DV can probably look this way on the outside. I get it. But still...

What the **** happened?
 
  • #327
In the uk we have a law called clares law which allows a partner to request (through the police) if their partner has ever had any abuse allegations or arrests in their past. I did it on my husband after being abused previously and it helped me feel a little better going into the new relationship. MOO
Wow, I think we need this throughout the world.
 
  • #328
Regarding the L's presence in the Reserve yesterday:
Wouldn't LE have briefed them before they set out on foot as to what not to do if they discover anything?
Some former FBI lady just on with Dan Abrams just said they would have been frisked before their "search" began.
Ok fine, but wouldn't LE have emphatically told them not to touch or pick up anything?!?
So the Fox reporter was following them and CL supposedly didn't see any LE nearby (?????) so he took the dry bag because he was worried the reporter would get to it?
??????

moo.

Can you say why LE would emphatically tell them not to pick anything up?

I guess I'm just not getting it. So what if there was some RL or CL DNA on something? They're accounted for - just like the LE officers. The LE guy didn't wear gloves either, because it was not a crime scene. The suspect in the financial fraud was likely dead, but if not, that case was not going to spin on what was in that bag or what he was wearing - it was all about identifying him.

But I'm truly curious what kind of evidence could have been in or associated with that bag...that needed to be specially processed. If someone else found the bag (a total stranger) and brought it to the police, as people do, lost and found and so on...what could it have contained that would be so useful to the case?

The narrative of what happened is made richer by knowing what's in the bag - but that's for the Laundries to control now. Unless the bag contained something illegal...but what could that be, when it was carried so casually by the investigator?
 
  • #329
Bringing forward some videos for reference showing area:


October 20


October 21

October 21
 
  • #330
Because they didn't want their son to go to jail for the rest of his life. We can agree or disagree with how they handled it but if they did, through Bertolino, report Brian went missing on the 13th (and I am absolutely confident that Bertolino is not lying on this point, by the way), then they have nothing to answer for.

NPPD said Brian was under surveillance. I just don't get the completely incoherent messaging we are getting from NPPD. If he was under surveillance why did they not follow him to the park? How did they miss that? Somehow they missed Brian getting into the Mustang and driving off. That's quite the surveillance. NPPD dropped the ball over and over again in this case, in my view.

Brian Laundrie thrust his parents into an extremely difficult situation. They dealt with it by following the advice of their lawyer. I do think it could have been handled better, frankly. Bertolino has said he accepts full responsibility.
Sorry, it was a rhetorical question. We know the answer as to why the Laundrie's only cooperated as much as they did - they wanted to protect their son above anyone and anything else.

Parents should not have to bury their children. The Laundrie's could choose how they responded to the investigation, and I wonder if they would make the same choices now that Brian is dead.
Gabby had no choice.
 
  • #331
Regarding the L's presence in the Reserve yesterday:
Wouldn't LE have briefed them before they set out on foot as to what not to do if they discover anything?
Some former FBI lady just on with Dan Abrams just said they would have been frisked before their "search" began.
Ok fine, but wouldn't LE have emphatically told them not to touch or pick up anything?!?
So the Fox reporter was following them and CL supposedly didn't see any LE nearby (?????) so he took the dry bag because he was worried the reporter would get to it?
??????

moo.
I believe the NPPD were angry at the Ls and took it personally.
They didn't take them seriously.
Then evidence and human remains were found right where the Ls had always maintained was where BL would most likely be found.
Even the LEO who took the evidence from CL wasn't wearing gloves.

It is mind boggling.

jmho
 
  • #332
Regardless of everything... RIP Brian. I feel bad for his family and all they've been put through by obsessed people and the media for a month while he was dead in the woods. I can't believe the amount of false witnesses who claimed they saw him hiking in the Appalachia in NC. People are really face blind.

MOO
False sightings of wanted and missing people, especially in high-profile cases, go along with the territory.

IMO, the Laundrie's experience is partly due to their son's actions and partly due to their behavior.

In the very high-profile Scott Peterson case, I remember his parents also stood by him and received grief from the public.

But IMO they didn't receive even a small fraction that the Laundries have. They and their son weren't hiding out in their home from the start, refusing to speak to investigators, refusing to give even the slightest bit of information to help the investigation.

When there's injustice, the public gets angry. That's how people get educated on issues and laws get changed.

MOO
 
  • #333
This is what stands out to me as well. So many who call themselves experts got this so wrong.

MOO.
Watching WFLA for the last 2 days I was struck by how much they emphasized over and over how rainsoaked everything had been, emphasizing snakes and alligators--they kinda seemed to go on and on. Then there was the presser and the sum total of what was said was that there had been a lot of rain and it was really muddy and then a lot of accolades for everyone who had worked on the case. Overall, it just felt like a lot of explaining of why they hadnt been able to find BL for a month and then his parents found in his location in under an hour. JMO
 
  • #334
On what specific grounds could he have been apprehended between 11th and13th?

Theft, bank fraud, a material witness warrant, a subpoena. There are lots of stupid charges that regular people face every day to hold them or harass them while LE investigates cases.
 
  • #335
The Laundrie's clearly communicated with Cassie to not answer the Petito's calls in the beginning. I would hope they warned Cassie about Brian's death... but with each new development their decisions and actions make no sense to me.

Not true. In the video where Cassie answered the protestors questions, she specifically stated that she had received no calls for voice mails whatsoever from the Petito/Schmidt family. Further, she stated she was getting all her information about this case from the news and nothing had been discussed with BL or her parents as she had no clue what was going on during the camping trip.
 
  • #336
Seconding this. Definite fact he was wanted, & he was pursued in a manner that appears to have been for way, way more than unauthorized use of a card. He was stated to be by LE a POI in a murder. The continual minimization of this really troubles me.

Yes, me too. The fraud charge was a tool in LE's toolbox. A way to get him into custody and hold him while they gathered evidence in the homicide case. There have been quite a few convicted murderers who were referred to as a POI prior to being arrested. Scott Peterson was one. IMO.
 
  • #337
But he was wanted before he died. Not for murder but for credit card fraud. He was wanted.

No. Probably died September 13th. Warrant for credit card fraud was September 22.
 
  • #338
Probably not a well received take, but I feel bad for the Laundrie family. It seems like they've cooperated fully since they reported their son missing but have been harassed and trashed since this case blew open. (I thought WS was victim friendly? As far as I'm concerned, the parents are victims as well).

The conspiracy theories brewing are grotesque and absurd.

I hope they and the Petito family can find answers and peace.
Actually, I consider the Petito family victims. I feel that the Laundrie family aided an abetted Brian's getaway and obstructed the investigators from no. 1 finding Gabby and no. 2 finding Brian.
 
  • #339
Her family fought so hard for it to become law (if you look it up, It’s really interesting, it’s on wiki, not sure I can share due being DV related) Maybe they could make a gabbys law. I personally would love that and what a way for her to help other people. MOO
Gabby's Law.
GABBY'S LAW!
#gabbyslawtrackandpreventdv
 
  • #340
Posthumous prosecution is really really rare. Can't imagine that happening in this sort of case. It's definitely a very sad case but frankly, people get killed every day. But prosecuting Brian after death would put him in a very select group along with Joan of Arc, Thomas Beckett, John Wycliff, and Martin Borman.
JMO
Agree 100%. GP’s family has stated the desire to help other families find missing loved ones. I’d rather see funds & manpower directed to this goal. Imo.
 
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