Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #76

[Barbie619]

So interesting that his parents went to a location and quickly found his belongings. I wonder if he may have admitted to them what happened and they all agreed that he would be better off dead than go to prison. They knew he planned to take his own life and where he planned it. This would explain to me their behavior during the search these past few weeks, where they’ve seemed less distressed about finding him than I would expect. Maybe they just process and display their distress differently than most. MOO
Such a sad case all around.

No parent would accept that their child was going off to kill themselves. That's horrific, evil, something I've never ever imagine a parent would be okay with ever. It's sick!

 

[Which_pancake]

A bit premature IMO unless it was obvious given the pieces that they found.

It's possible they found a gun or noose or something like that at the scene. MOO

 

[cottonweaver]

Associated Press article

Much was made in the media about the intense interest in Petito's case compared with the scant attention paid to numerous missing-persons cases involving women of color.

Native American women, in particular, generate little media coverage when they disappear.

In Wyoming, where Petito was found, just 18% of cases of missing indigenous women over the past decade had any media mentions, according to a state report released in January.

One sample of 247 missing teens in New York and California found 34% of white teens´ cases were covered by the media, compared with only 7% of Black teens and 14% of young Latinos, according to Carol Liebler, a communications professor at Syracuse University.

"What´s communicated is that white lives matter more than people of color," she said.

Petito's father, Joseph Petito, said the Gabby Petito Foundation is in the formative stages and will seek to fill in any gaps that exist in the work of finding missing people.

"We need positive stuff to come from the tragedy that happened," he said. "We can´t let her name be taken in vain."

EXPLAINER: Where does Gabby Petito slaying probe go next? | Daily Mail Online

 

[LAhiker]

You guys are missing this. Your point will still be here when this concludes.
Still streaming… imo

It's interesting, but it isn't streaming live any longer. You can tell that because the video has a total time listed (2 hours 14 minutes 59 seconds), and that total time isn't changing.

JMO

 

[sarahboirin]

You guys are missing this. Your point will still be here when this concludes.
Still streaming… imo

this isn't live is it?

 

[BCSleuth]

I don't know who came up with the term "grieving" to describe him that day -- Brian himself? His parents? The attorney? But it's the kind of term people use when someone dies. Had the term been distraught or beside himself (etc etc etc) I'd be open to it as a reference to a break-up or a missing person vs. responding to the death of his fiancee.

Yeah, on second thought and after reviewing what Bertolino said I do think it means Brian admitted to his parents that he thought Gabby was deceased, for whatever reason.

Quote:

Speaking to CNN affiliate WABC Thursday, the lawyer said the parents "knew that their, their son Brian was grieving."

"Brian had been extremely upset," Bertolino said when asked why his parents thought he was grieving.

source: Forensic pathologist explains what was 'odd' about Brian Laundrie death scene

 

[Cool Cats]

In statement analysis, this could be considered "leakage". The lawyer seemed pretty emotional and this can allow people to relax a bit and not censor their words as carefully as they would normally.
Although, I don't know SB's typical vocabulary and if he regularly uses words incorrectly.

In re-reading, it appears it is the dad's choice of word rather than the attorney's:

Chris Laundrie, believed his son was "grieving"

I think the word grieving was used because Brian told his parents what happened.

Chris knew his son was grieving over his girlfriend's death, not just being upset over a breakup.

 

[Lillymac]

But when he said "I have no phone" he was talking about the past. Brian was not trying to tell them he didn't have one at all. As in "Im thinking if she leaves me, I have no phone" (because at that time it was in the van, not on him) The officer was asking about the fight they were reported for, not the present.

Okay, I guess I can see how him using improper tense would confuse.

Texting and social media have destroyed grammer!

He was also talking about the phone being dead. Figuratively he had no phone. The charger was in the van so if she took the van he wouldn't have a phone.

According to Evan Stark, one of the most respected and prolific domestic violence researchers in the US:

So what has happened is that because we have a law that focuses on discreet incidents of violence, and because the vast majority of domestic violence incidents are trivial from a criminal justice or medical standpoint, the vast majority of domestic violence arrests and cases result in absolutely no sanctions that are significant enough, or even approach significant enough, to inhibit subsequent domestic violence crimes. In other words, what we’ve done by turning domestic…by taking an incident specific approach to domestic violence is effectively to turn domestic violence into a second-class misdemeanor for which almost no one goes to jail. But in the 60 percent of the cases where I believe the pattern of violence is complemented by this extended pattern of intimidation, isolation and control, I believe a much more broad-based and fundamental crime needs to be identified and enforced.

Evan Stark

So yes, every incident in the abuse dynamic, no matter how seemingly trivial, tells us about the pattern that led up to Gabby's murder. The violence is the pattern, not the individual incidents. It also matters because there are those, even here, saying "Well, we just don't know for sure yet that Brian actually murdered her," etc. Establishing that the pattern fits the textbook DV pattern (which, as a researcher getting a PhD in this, I strongly believe it does) gives us some level of certainty that the trajectory of abuse led where it so often does--to the abuser murdering the target of the abuse.

Also important: If Brian put his hands around Gabby's neck as she seems to indicate, there is strong evidence that this was a predictably lethal situation. Strangulation is one of the strongest indicators of lethality (as many others have correctly posted about here) even had that not turned out to be Gabby's COD, which makes the hands-on-neck even more vital to understanding the eventual murder of Gabby.

Tools & Strategies for Assessing Danger or Risk of Lethality

Prior to the incident in Moab, what were the incidents of violence between GP and BL?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

It's possible they found a gun or noose or something like that at the scene. MOO

I said it near the beginning, middle and again right before he was found. I do think there is a gun as a missing piece not even out of the puzzle box yet. I will eat all the crow served up if I’m wrong which is very likely - I’m wrong about a lot of things. lol Just ask my husband…

 

[SMK777]

Is this tweet correct? Anybody know, if it will be released publicly too, today?


https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1451635012223348739

If so, it must have been something like a gunshot wound. What else could be determined so quickly? Toxicology and other tests could take weeks. I hope they have their facts straight when they report “today”, and I hope the attorney will release a statement.

 

[Deleted member 229974]

Sorry I misunderstood.

No problem. Thanks.

Disagree, and also no one should be murdered for posting on Instagram.

Obviously I should have been more clear in my response.
When I read MistyWaters comment, I took it as a generalization as to why so many women feel the need to project being perfect. My opinion was generalized too.
I think it’s unfortunate that many young women today are influenced and sometimes negatively affected by all of the imagery they see on social media. I think some feel inadequate and think they need to “keep up with the Joneses” by constantly posting updates and photos for the “likes” as that makes them feel validated. I’m sorry for the misunderstanding. Thank you.

 

[customCF]

Isn't it bizarre?
One was brutally strangled to death and yet Brian is somehow the victim. I'm losing faith in humanity or sanity even.
If he wanted to break up he could have just hiked to the nearest motel, then flew back home (again.) No need to murder her.

You are not the only one. So many things i've seen make me think many people have no empathy or care for another human.

 

[cottonweaver]

A bit premature IMO unless it was obvious given the pieces that they found.

'I was informed by law enforcement yesterday that perhaps by midday today we'd have some more information,'
Brian Laundrie's family expect to be told today what his cause of death was | Daily Mail Online


Yes I had to open the link to check the details
So , it was a comment given to SB by LE. SB made the comment on ABC yesterday.
The Mail has presented it as likely today but as Gardenista has posted, things have changed.

 

[SMK777]

I said it near the beginning, middle and again right before he was found. I do think there is a gun as a missing piece not even out of the puzzle box yet. I will eat all the crow served up if I’m wrong which is very likely - I’m wrong about a lot of things. lol Just ask my husband…

Can you please be right this time?

 

[BellaVita]

That's...not a crime in and of itself.

It's possibly indicative of an overall abusive dynamic, but "preventing a text" isn't a crime. Mean or an inappropriate exercise of control, but not a crime.

It is a crime depending on the jurisdiction. Here's one example:
Domestic Violence - Obstruction of Telephone or Telegraph Service -
Preventing someone from communicating through telephone and other electronic devices in Colorado can involve the police and potentially charges. This can be done by cutting phone lines to taking someone’s cell phone. Obstruction of a telephone service is considered a class 1 misdemeanor under Colorado law, C.R.S. § 18-9-306.5.

Shouldn't taking someone's phone to prevent texting/communication be a crime??? It's limiting a person's freedom. MOO>

 

[imstilla.grandma]

this isn't live is it?

I still see live comments popping up.
Def live. It started 40 minutes ago.

 

[Lillymac]

A bit premature IMO unless it was obvious given the pieces that they found.

If they found the skull, and I believe they did, a gunshot would be pretty easy to determine. And given the circumstances, I can't think of any other logical means. MO

 

[x_files]

No problem. Thanks.

Obviously I should have been more clear in my response.
When I read MistyWaters comment, I took it as a generalization as to why so many women feel the need to project being perfect. My opinion was generalized too.
I think it’s unfortunate that many young women today are influenced and sometimes negatively affected by all of the imagery they see on social media. I think some feel inadequate and think they need to “keep up with the Joneses” by constantly posting updates and photos for the “likes” as that makes them feel validated. I’m sorry for the misunderstanding. Thank you.

Agreed. There;'s a tremendous pressure to be perfect online 24/7, just ask a teen how it makes them feel. Many feel depressed and suicidal. It's terrible. There's little to no room for anything but perfection. Most have the perfect smiles, looks, the right clothes, etc...everything is under scrutiny. If you're on sm you're instantly thrown into the public's eye whether you want the attention or not. It should be fun to post on sm but ends up horribly stressful to always strive for perfction.

 

[pizzaman12]

Is this tweet correct? Anybody know, if it will be released publicly too, today?


https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1451635012223348739

That seems strange to me unless there there is an obvious cause of death (gunshot wound). Otherwise, I'd imagine they'd have a forensic anthropologist take over

 

[Jurisprudence]

There is an express acknowledgment (IMO) by SB that the parents knew (not that I necessarily needed him to expressly acknowledge this as indicated by prior posts on their conduct in MOO Found Deceased - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #75).

https://twitter.com/CuomoPrimeTime/status/1450996081563680768

at 1:28

Chris Cuomo: If this is Brian Laundrie, and he is gone, will the parents tell what they know?

Steven Bertolino: Well, now is not the time to discuss that, Chris. It may come out in the future. It may not. Right now, we're just going to wait for the forensic results as I said earlier and, you know, we may come back on that subject sometime in the future.