Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #77

[kimch33kim]

A big missing piece of the puzzle here is what was found in Gabby's autopsy.

SB indicated early on that BL wasn't talking because LE tends to look for at SO's in cases like this, which implied BL was innocent and this case was headed towards a "bushy haired stranger" defense.

So now we know BL was upset when he returned to his parents house on Sept. 1 and he was upset after the Bethune video was released and after talking with SB that same day. One of these events led to him heading to the park to kill himself on that particular date.

We also know BL took more than $1000 out of Gabby's accounts - more money than would be needed to buy gasoline/food/even hotel rooms while driving back. What did he do with the rest of the money?

What I would like to know from Gabby's autopsy is if BL's skin/blood/DNA was found in locations on Gabby such as under her nails, on her neck, etc. That information would be very helpful in answering any lingering questions as to exactly what happened to Gabby. I'm frankly surprised this has not been released now that it is known BL is deceased. Hopefully it will be released soon to put to bed any lingering questions.

Did SB saying Brian was upset returning on 9/1? I didn't catch that. I believe all he said was Brian was visibility upset and grieving when leaving on the morning of the 13th.

 

[priyaya]

So no gunshot to the head?
He was identified by his dental records so skull must have been intact, right?

not necessarily. someone mentioned earlier that mandible, portion with teeth, can come off, especially with the decomp that it went through and the water. so we know they had that part of the skull to ID him... just not what else

 

[Sachi]

Should we conclude that he waded out to the general area where his remains were found? jmo

Wondered this too?

 

[Gardenista]

Did SB saying Brian was upset returning on 9/1? I didn't catch that. I believe all he said was Brian was visibility upset and grieving when leaving on the morning of the 13th.

Yes, in this article

Brian Laundrie's Parents 'Have No Inkling' What Might Be in Notebook Found Near Remains: Lawyer

 

[ctmom]

Seems like one of the many news Heli's or many drones would have captured that area...but no one has published anything. jmo

It's my understanding once his remains were found, a no fly zone was immediately issued.
Usually I can pinpoint fairly accurate locations with Heli footage but in this case, I had to go by just media sources.
I do have a second source that verifies BL's remains location but I'm not sure they're WS approved.

 

[priyaya]

Seems like one of the many news Heli's or many drones would have captured that area...but no one has published anything. jmo

yes the helicopter footage did cover that area, when father voluntarily joined the search and it was all covered in water

 

[kimch33kim]

I mean he was just identified as deceased 24 hours ago... and it is a Friday.
My guess is that LE was building their case to charge him with murder and that information would have been withheld in order to keep that case tight. they did come by and ask his parent for a DNA sample after Gabby's body was found. .

They went to Laundrie house to collect items of Brian for DNA testing. Maybe they collected the parents' DNA but it was never reported.

 

[TheGardener]

So no gunshot to the head?
He was identified by his dental records so skull must have been intact, right?

Hmmm. If this comes from SB and If I worked at the Lowery Park Zoo in Tampa, I'd do a head count of the chimpanzees...just to make sure.
MOO

 

[Sassafrass]

My opinion: It would appear that BL went to the reserve to commit suicide. I doubt he brought the notebook to do sketches.


Keep in mind that JT was the one who absolutely rubbished the idea that the Laundries would participate in the search for BL. Early the next day the Laundries were assisting in the search. (In fact, folks on this board were in the midst of musing about what a giant liar Bertolino was, and how ridiculous his suggestion was that the Laundries might actually be asked to help in the search, when we received reports that the Laundries were indeed assisting in the search. That was quite the moment.)

In that article (linked in the quoted comment) JT is making an assumption. "Please keep in mind that NPPD was an assisting agency until Tuesday night September 14th," he wrote. "I’m confident that if that were true, the information would have been relayed."

So JT is claiming its not true simply because he didn't know about it. That is exactly what he did with the search info.

I'm pretty sure Bertolino is not lying about this. Somehow, somewhere, the info he provided, that Brian went missing on the 13th, seems to have fallen through the cracks.

At the time, I read NPPD'S comment about "in no world" would they have asked the Ls to help in the search to mean "because the FBI was leading the investigation, so NPPD would never themselves make that arrangement with the Ls outside/around the FBI." Unless I'm missing something that guy said that was more precise, I still read it that way.

Again, it's really easy to make a statement (written or oral) and have in mind exactly what you mean but still wind up coming across unclear or being understood in multiple ways.

 

[Gemmie]

Found no gun?

My response was to someone that posted "So I guess this means it was probably not a gunshot to the head...

NO CAUSE, MANNER OF DEATH IDENTIFIED
Bones Going To Anthropologist"

 

[Figuring]

See, I would assume (and we all know about "-uming") that the TOP part of the skull is called "skull" and if it were the lower jaw, that would be called "jaw." Just saying. I am sure the ME knows the correct way to term it and maybe I should study up on what is "skull" and what is "lower jar" in human remains.

The two parts are called cranium & mandible--mandible is the jaw. But together they make the skull, so from what LE has said so far, it's possible IMO that when they say "part of the skull" they could be referring to either part. I know they ID'd him from dental records & initially I assumed that meant the mandible (jaw), but it could have been his upper teeth/dental work that they matched. The only thing with that is, it's a bit weird to only have part of the cranium. But I think just about anything can happen in a swamp. JMO

 

[Sassafrass]

If you're depending on SB for useful information...I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell to you.

So does he, the long island real estate guy!

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“If the body had been there, when they went by with cadaver dogs, and the body had been there for more than two or three minutes, the odor would have come through the water," Kyle Heyen said on Dan Abrams Live. "They should have been able to locate that body."

"It's highly suspicious," Heyen said. "If the body was there at that time, x weeks ago, and if it's the same dog and the same quality of dog or same quality of training, they should have found him. They would have detected Laundrie's body."

Heyen is the principal and founder of Detector Dogs International, Inc. He says the methodology he trained with involved using actual human parts to teach the dogs.

"If the dogs are well trained, well maintained, and we're in that area, then yeah, they should have smelled the odor of the human," Heyen said.
K-9 handler not sure how dogs missed remains in Florida reserve | KLAS

 

[Fleur-de-lis]

Should we conclude that he waded out to the general area where his remains were found? jmo

In a Google Maps, you can see areas where it had been flooded, with damp muddy wallows and some standing water in two depressions. I need to look and see when that is. It just shows that the amount of water varies greatly. October is the dry month (for Florida). JMO. Photo credit to Google Maps.

 

[Gardenista]

Here's a livestream from day his dad went to search

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

A big missing piece of the puzzle here is what was found in Gabby's autopsy.

SB indicated early on that BL wasn't talking because LE tends to look for at SO's in cases like this, which implied BL was innocent and this case was headed towards a "bushy haired stranger" defense.

So now we know BL was upset when he returned to his parents house on Sept. 1 and he was upset after the Bethune video was released and after talking with SB that same day. One of these events led to him heading to the park to kill himself on that particular date.

We also know BL took more than $1000 out of Gabby's accounts - more money than would be needed to buy gasoline/food/even hotel rooms while driving back. What did he do with the rest of the money?

What I would like to know from Gabby's autopsy is if BL's skin/blood/DNA was found in locations on Gabby such as under her nails, on her neck, etc. That information would be very helpful in answering any lingering questions as to exactly what happened to Gabby. I'm frankly surprised this has not been released now that it is known BL is deceased. Hopefully it will be released soon to put to bed any lingering questions.

I don’t view this as a big missing piece to the puzzle and I don’t know that there’s that many that have real lingering questions as what happened to Gabby. In my opinion it’s pretty straightforward what happened to Gabby and that Brian is responsible for her death. I don’t think will ever know the details but the end result was he strangled her. I would be interested to know if there’s any other signs of trauma, although I certainly hope there wasn’tMOO

 

[cottonweaver]

Are they still searching? Didn't they open the park back up to the public after finding the remains? I would hope, like you, that a solid grid search would be undertaken especially since the waters have receded but I could've sworn they re-opened the park (which could lead to randos finding stuff).

ETA: Found the link:
Brian Laundrie search sites reopening to public after remains found, identified | WFLA

Am shocked at that Cecelia. I hadn't realised it was reopened again!

 

[Fleur-de-lis]

So no gunshot to the head?
He was identified by his dental records so skull must have been intact, right?

I'm wondering if the UPPER part of his skull is missing and just the lower jaw found??? JMO.

 

[Figuring]

So no gunshot to the head?
He was identified by his dental records so skull must have been intact, right?

I think it could perhaps have been a gunshot but they don't have the whole skull, reportedly. We'll have to see if they say they found a gun. For dental records, they could have identified him either by upper or lower teeth, so it may not have been intact. If they have very few bones (which it sounds like), they may have a really hard time ruling in or out cause of death. JMO

 

[MaryG12]

One thing that really kept confusing me was the mention of the Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park and Carlton Reserve, sounds like BL entered an access point to Carlton from MCEP. Then to the immediate north is Big Slough Preserve off of Rt 72, and west to that, the Myakka River State Park.