Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #78

[Luna20]

RSBM Yeah it seems weird how they were suddenly spurned into action, to be up at first light to get out to the park to search, when for 30+ days they were so disinterested that they couldn't tell one day from another, they all rolled into one (was it the 13th or the 14th, was it a Monday or a Tuesday, did I mow the lawn, did a whole truck load of reporters turn up outside my house etc) moo

Did the parents get advance notice that the park would be opened back up to the public?

 

[sarahboirin]

Well it was the actual first day they were allowed to do so. I can't imagine what it was like for them, being excluded from looking all that time (and that's more and more common in US missing persons or criminal cases...I would have a very hard time with it, indeed, if my child was missing).

It actually reopened on the Tuesday, but that was the day the parents went errand running rather than looking for their missing son.

Search For Brian Laundrie Draws A Blank? Florida Nature Park Close To Carlton Reserve Reopened

 

[Jurisprudence]

BTW do you hold public Inquests or equivalent in the US?

Even if Bertolino & the parents didn't exist, we'd still hold an Inquest over BL's death, here in the UK ( & many other Euro countries) we wouldn't just be waiting on the will of any LE agency

I don't know if they would hold an inquest now but way back when this started, in some of the very early threads there was tremendous amount of discussion on the use of "Investigative Subpoenas." Why they were not used to haul any one of the 3 in - even if they took the 5th, but to at least get eyes on them, has always baffled me. Bring your lawyer with you. Plead the 5th. Get it on the record. MOO IMO JMO

 

[Balthazar]

Some thoughts on this case: I don't think that the Laundries knew anything serious was wrong other than that Gabby and BL had broken up until September 11. From what we know, the Laundries were camping and doing other things in early September. It just may be that while the Petitos and Schmidts were trying to get in touch with them on the 10th or 11th, the Laundries were in a campground with no cell service and only learned of their texts and calls, including the threat to call LE and file an MPR for Gabby the night of Saturday, September 11 at around 11pm which led to the Laundries calling SB for assistance.

Does anyone know where the Laundries were on Sept. 10 and 11? What if they were not home and couldn't receive cellphone calls? For example, at many campgrounds, there is no cell service except in the general store or office which is not where most people spend a lot of time while camping. Then they get home, receive all these messages late at night. They call their attorney who says they should say nothing, he will take care of it. Next thing they know the media has picked up the story that the Laundries would not answer calls from Gabby's family and sensationalizes it. Their attorney tells them to remain silent and they give the attorney's card to LE when LE shows up at their door. The Laundries may well have been caught like deer in the headlights. The press goes wild and vilifies the Laundries. Brian is not saying anything and goes off for a hike. People are demanding he say where Gabby is but he is not home so the attorney says he advised BL to remain silent. Next thing the Laundries know the press and protestors are camped out in front of their house. I just wonder if this theory is closer to what actually happened.

 

[simplemind]

"But it makes you wonder did they find him that first night and talk to him out there 9/13? Did he have a camp set up there? Did they return to the same spot the next day?"

This is incredibly interesting. Fascinating. Good post!

Total speculation here but the first thing I thought when ChL found the bag then LE found remains made me want to know. 1- Did LE find a camp hammock or tent? and 2- Was the reason ChL was able to find the dry bag off trail because he had been there to meet BL before and/or left it there himself upon returning 9/14 to (unsuccessfully) check on BL?

 

[claire_parker]

If he was going there just to commit suicide why would he bring all that stuff with him?

 

[LeeJay55]

SB must be having nightmares about what is in that notebook.

Oh I don t think.so!
It.might explain what happened!
Then again there might be nothing in it!

 

[Bertha96]

It actually reopened on the Tuesday
Search For Brian Laundrie Draws A Blank? Florida Nature Park Close To Carlton Reserve Reopened

Thank you! I thought I had read that it was opened to the public the day before the L's went to "search" but could not remember where I saw it.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Not for himself. For his clients, RL and ChL, if BL made statements in the notebook that incriminate them in some way and become public.

IMOO any statement BL made in that notebook would be purposeful exoneration of them accompanied by apologies to them. He is not gonna throw his parents under the bus. If he even thought he could do this, he would have remained alive and tried to deal something by flipping on them. I just don't see this happening. MOO

 

[Jurisprudence]

She said later, when she was livestreaming that they spoke after the interview and all was good. He may show up Tuesday for another one. jmo

Shocking. Wow. MOO

 

[SouthAussie]

I thought they said the park was open to the public for the first time the day before the L's went to search? Instead of going the first day it was open, they called LE that night and then went to search the next morning which was the second day the public was allowed in. IMO.

From links, the way I understand it is ......

Myakkahatchee Environmental Park re-opened.
Carlton Reserve remained closed.
BL was found in Carlton Reserve.


The City of North Port has announced that after nearly a month, Myakkahatchee Environmental Park has now reopened.
The park, alongside Carlton Reserve, has been closed as federal agents continue their search for Brian Laundrie .... According to Sarasota County Government’s website, Carlton Reserve remains closed at this time.
Myakkahatchee Park has reopened, Carlton Reserve remains closed


The FBI confirmed Thursday the remains found in Carlton Reserve in North Port belonged to Laundrie
A notebook found near Brian Laundrie's remains could answer some key questions, experts say - CNN

 

[Bertha96]

Total speculation here but the first thing I thought when ChL found the bag then LE found remains made me want to know. 1- Did LE find a camp hammock or tent? and 2- Was the reason ChL was able to find the dry bag off trail because he had been there to meet BL before and/or left it there himself upon returning 9/14 to (unsuccessfully) check on BL?

Good questions. I thought perhaps it had been taken there for BL to find OR someone in the BL circle had seen it there previously and left it there in case BL came back to it instead of reporting it to LE. It was way too random for CL to walk straight to it after LE had done such an extensive search in the area. No one is that lucky IMO.

 

[Figuring]

If he was going there just to commit suicide why would he bring all that stuff with him?

I’ve pondered that too. I don’t think I have an answer or anything but I’m wondering if perhaps he made a bit of a ritual of it? Perhaps visited his favourite places in there, did some drawings, etc. Maybe he brought sentimental belongings to look at in solitude? I still wonder if perhaps he had initially planned to camp & wait things out, & only later realized that would never work. I wonder if we will ever know anything of a TL of his time out there. JMO

 

[Luna20]

I think SB is intimidated by her and that's why he loses his cool and starts getting flustered and upset.

I agree and I thought it was overload on how many times he said “Ashley”. That is tactical. We all knew who he was talking to.

 

[Jurisprudence]

but didn't SB also say to Banfield that as well as these joint Facetime conferences he had with R, C, B on 12th & 13th, he also held separate conversations with R&C together & then separately with Brian solo, on the 12th& 13th.

If it came to depositions in a civ suit or charges wouldn't it be easy to C,R & SB to deal with that, practically?

Tbh, I didn't delve too deep into his privilege arguments bc, well, tbh, I don't buy them. At all. I think he was contacted before BL arrived home. I think he may have done occasional work for them on their properties and maybe even reviewing a few juicer licensing agreements, etc. I don't buy that he is the FAMILY attorney for decades. I don't believe drafting agreements or handling a closings here and there (if at all) gives you attorney/client privilege for a client's son's possible murder indictment. I just don't buy it, so I stopped paying attention to him on this point a long time ago. This is JMO Not fact.

 

[TheGardener]

I’m wondering people’s thoughts about the retention date of SB. He said he became “involved” Sept 11 (just as, or immediately after, the van was towed, apparently, based on his timeline).

Then he tells Ashley that anything from Sept 1-10th was privileged. But he hasn’t apparently been retained on those dates—so can privilege really be retrospective?

Thrn when pressed about that by Ashley he said something like, Ive been their lawyer for 20 years so everything they say to me is privileged—does that really work? Is it really a blanket thing like that?

and then, of course if he represented the parents in the juicing business or whatever it was, that still would not have ever included BL, before the 11th, right?

Do I have any of this wrong? Did what he said about legal representation add up to anybody?

JMO

I believe the lawyer and parents became involved shortly after the murder, while Brian was still in Wyoming. Everything up until his disappearance was an attempt to alibi him. It failed.
MOO

 

[Bertha96]

From links, the way I understand it is ......

Myakkahatchee Environmental Park re-opened on Wednesday October 20th.
Carlton Reserve remained closed.
BL was found in Carlton Reserve.


The City of North Port has announced that after nearly a month, Myakkahatchee Environmental Park has now reopened.
The park, alongside Carlton Reserve, has been closed as federal agents continue their search for Brian Laundrie .... According to Sarasota County Government’s website, Carlton Reserve remains closed at this time.
Myakkahatchee Park has reopened, Carlton Reserve remains closed


The FBI confirmed Thursday the remains found in Carlton Reserve in North Port belonged to Laundrie
A notebook found near Brian Laundrie's remains could answer some key questions, experts say - CNN

Someone posted a reply/link that said it first opened to the public on Tuesday which was the day the L's ran multiple errands. Tuesday evening they called LE to tell them they were going there to search wed morning, which they did.

 

[NuttMegg]

It doesn't matter when the reserve was opened to the public, IMO, except for water levels.

LE would never have turned the Laundries down had they approached LE and told them they could probably find BL's things quickly, as they actually did with the beeline.

I just don't think they "waited until the reserve was open" (to approach LE for a search for their only son). IMO

They waited for some other reason, ie thinking that he wasn't still in there. IMO

 

[Bertha96]

From links, the way I understand it is ......

Myakkahatchee Environmental Park re-opened.
Carlton Reserve remained closed.
BL was found in Carlton Reserve.


The City of North Port has announced that after nearly a month, Myakkahatchee Environmental Park has now reopened.
The park, alongside Carlton Reserve, has been closed as federal agents continue their search for Brian Laundrie .... According to Sarasota County Government’s website, Carlton Reserve remains closed at this time.
Myakkahatchee Park has reopened, Carlton Reserve remains closed


The FBI confirmed Thursday the remains found in Carlton Reserve in North Port belonged to Laundrie
A notebook found near Brian Laundrie's remains could answer some key questions, experts say - CNN

He was found in the Myakkahatchee Environmental Park. So many articles and so much information getting thrown around, it's difficult to keep track. IMO.

 

[TheGardener]

His whole approach to a case being watched by the world makes no sense at all.
He causes chaos.
Stated he started representing the L's on 11th.
This contradicts an earlier interview where he defends the L's for not taking the P's calls which happened before 11th.
I suspect he's fighting more for himself than his clients.

Can I like this a million times?

 

[cady]

If he was going there just to commit suicide why would he bring all that stuff with him?

May not have been a lot of stuff, really. They didn't seem to look for very long, but JT of NPPD in an interview with a female (before the Brian Entin interview) she asked if they found a weapon and he skirted answering that but did say that other things were found which he was not at liberty at this time to say what. ( Could be "things" or could be more skeletal remains, IMO jmo