Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 *road trip w/bf*

[aim4thestars]

I totally agree with this take. I haven’t finished the thread but right now it seems weird to me he’d go back if he was guilty. If my significant other broke up with me and told me to leave, etc., I’d be heartbroken and the last thing i would do is call their family. I also wouldn’t talk to them. My partner and I always need time after a fight and often won’t communicate for a few days. I don’t know why this seems weird. If he couldn’t get in touch with Gabby he may have figured she didn’t want to talk to him. Anyway, i wouldn’t wait around if I got dumped or vice versa. I’d go home (ESPECIALLY at 23). If i got home and found out that person was missing I’d work with LE but I would absolutely lawyer up. Everybody should always have a lawyer when talking to LE, innocent or guilty. I think as of right now only the family is saying he isn’t cooperating. This is not official.

If he’s 23 we have to remember he’s young, too. I know nothing about either of them but they also seem idealistic. If they broke up, got in a fight, met weird people, took drugs WHATEVER- he may not know what to do. It’s easy for all of us to say while we are at home but in the middle of an emergency of any kind it’s easy to make poor, irrational decisions.

there’s just something off about this case that makes me think the boyfriend didn’t do it. I hope she’s ok regardless. I am worried for her and the traveling makes this that much harder.


I understand it’s frustrating that the boyfriend isn’t speaking publicly but he has no obligation to do so.

I agree with this. There's definitely something sketchy and likely bad/awful decisions that were made, but getting representation or even being 'uncooperative' is not necessarily an indication of guilt at this point. I certainly cannot imagine a situation where I left someone thousands of miles from home, but we don't know what happened. JMO.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

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[10ofRods]

bbm
I agree.

But to play the devils' advocate : What if he woke one morning and boom --she was just gone ?
Maybe he thought she found someone else, and left with them ?
Maybe a group of people with their vans or tents --and she didn't want to tell him the relationship was over ?
So he packed up the van and went home.

The only impediment to that theory is the absence of communication with her family.
Puzzling.
MOO.

If that happened - at, say Grand Teton, he still ought to have contacted family and rangers. What would make him think that New Partner was not a creep?

A 'group of people' in any NP campground is going to be reservation h0lders, with limited time there. Mostly couples and families.

If your partner left, but never mentioned why (didn't say it was someone else), you'd just pack up and go home?
They'd only. just arrived in GTNP (miles and miles from SLC or Ogden). So either this person is following them (doubtful) or she met that person and absconded with them within 24-48 hours. Which says her mental status was not good.

And he isn't the least bit concerned about that and doesn't let her mom know that she has run off?

Why would she abandon her half of that van?

We'll know more when we found out about her phone pings - which I bet will end on or about August 25. And that may at least result in a BOLO in the parks. Since I don't believe the BF knew the area (at all), he wouldn't have any clue how to hide a body if he had to.

If she did run off so abruptly (after all that work on the van on the Insta and the YT, trying to create an income stream for the two of them), then her mental health is not stable. IMO.

 

[RIPRM]

IMO only a real dullard would seek to do both: 1) go out of his way to bring attention to his life and activity with a 2nd person, and 2) disappear 2nd person.

 

[cuffem]

From their Instagrams I feel an “accident” happened in some of those high, desolate locations they visited. Hope she is found safe and well but this does not feel like a good outcome. His art was a little dark IMO and they listened to “Morbid Podcast” together. Other than that it seemed a hunky dory adventure of a lifetime

You would report an accident, same if she was lost.

 

[SuziQ]

I totally agree with this take. I haven’t finished the thread but right now it seems weird to me he’d go back if he was guilty. If my significant other broke up with me and told me to leave, etc., I’d be heartbroken and the last thing i would do is call their family. I also wouldn’t talk to them. My partner and I always need time after a fight and often won’t communicate for a few days. I don’t know why this seems weird. If he couldn’t get in touch with Gabby he may have figured she didn’t want to talk to him. Anyway, i wouldn’t wait around if I got dumped or vice versa. I’d go home (ESPECIALLY at 23). If i got home and found out that person was missing I’d work with LE but I would absolutely lawyer up. Everybody should always have a lawyer when talking to LE, innocent or guilty. I think as of right now only the family is saying he isn’t cooperating. This is not official.

If he’s 23 we have to remember he’s young, too. I know nothing about either of them but they also seem idealistic. If they broke up, got in a fight, met weird people, took drugs WHATEVER- he may not know what to do. It’s easy for all of us to say while we are at home but in the middle of an emergency of any kind it’s easy to make poor, irrational decisions.

there’s just something off about this case that makes me think the boyfriend didn’t do it. I hope she’s ok regardless. I am worried for her and the traveling makes this that much harder.


I understand it’s frustrating that the boyfriend isn’t speaking publicly but he has no obligation to do so.

Don't forget that men disappear their partners and continue to live in the same house the murder took place in. They do it because it is the least suspicious thing to do. Like driving the van home would be less suspicious than let's say going on the run. I wonder what he has said about how they got separated.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

I totally agree with this take. I haven’t finished the thread but right now it seems weird to me he’d go back if he was guilty. If my significant other broke up with me and told me to leave, etc., I’d be heartbroken and the last thing i would do is call their family. I also wouldn’t talk to them. My partner and I always need time after a fight and often won’t communicate for a few days. I don’t know why this seems weird. If he couldn’t get in touch with Gabby he may have figured she didn’t want to talk to him. Anyway, i wouldn’t wait around if I got dumped or vice versa. I’d go home (ESPECIALLY at 23). If i got home and found out that person was missing I’d work with LE but I would absolutely lawyer up. Everybody should always have a lawyer when talking to LE, innocent or guilty. I think as of right now only the family is saying he isn’t cooperating. This is not official.

If he’s 23 we have to remember he’s young, too. I know nothing about either of them but they also seem idealistic. If they broke up, got in a fight, met weird people, took drugs WHATEVER- he may not know what to do. It’s easy for all of us to say while we are at home but in the middle of an emergency of any kind it’s easy to make poor, irrational decisions.

there’s just something off about this case that makes me think the boyfriend didn’t do it. I hope she’s ok regardless. I am worried for her and the traveling makes this that much harder.


I understand it’s frustrating that the boyfriend isn’t speaking publicly but he has no obligation to do so.

Nah, he is young, but I've seen all too much how this plays out with young people. You don't go around posting on IG with happy pics when you broke up with your gf. Sorry, just MO

 

[InvisibleMe]

Following.
When I was her age (over a decade ago), my then-boyfriend and I bought a conversion van and lived out of it (with our dog) while traveling from NY to CA, swept the South, and back. We, too, visited the Arches in Utah, Beautiful.
We traveled 40 days total. Yes, very occasionally we would get a hotel, but mostly stayed the nights at truck stops (which have rental showers as well as wash facilities for clothes) and National Park campgrounds. At no time did we tire of eachother, it was a very exciting time for us. We were very much in love and excited to absorb each days' experiences.

The fact that BF came home without her and immediately lawyered up, leads me to believe something bad happened to Gabby. Be it an accident, or otherwise, I think BF knows exactly what happened to her. If there were an accident, I think he'd have contacted authorities immediately as well as her family, not drove home and retained a lawyer.. MOO

Yeah, why didn’t he at least call her family and ask if they had heard from her if he didn’t know what happened to her?

 

[SuziQ]

IMO only a real dullard would seek to do both: 1) go out of his way to bring attention to his life and activity with a 2nd person, and 2) disappear 2nd person.

Ah, but it happens all the time. And all it takes is a split second of anger.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

I think the necklace is significant to me........Why no necklace anymore? Last shown 7/24

 

[JerseyGirl]

I thought she texted her mom.
Confused about how Gabby can be in Grand Teton and in Ogden on the same day Aug 25 th (according to Gabby's IG pic in Ogden...butterfly mural)

I don’t think we can guarantee that they were at each place on that specific date. They may not have had cell service on the day it was taken or did not upload until a day (or more) later.

 

[whitelilac]

I don’t think we can guarantee that they were at each place on that specific date. They may not have had cell service on the day it was taken or did not upload until a day (or more) later.

Thank you...yes of course!

 

[PixieStix]

bbm
I agree.

But to play the devils' advocate : What if he woke one morning and boom --she was just gone ?
Maybe he thought she found someone else, and left with them ?
Maybe a group of people with their vans or tents --and she didn't want to tell him the relationship was over ?
So he packed up the van and went home.

The only impediment to that theory is the absence of communication with her family.
Puzzling.
MOO.

The least likely scenario is that he woke up one morning to find her gone and decided to pack up and drive home to Florida. Most people, even young people in that kind of scenario, would be concerned about their missing loved one and would reach out to LE and or family to get help to locate and make sure that person was okay.

Even if she voluntarily left, it's odd she wouldn't contact her family, which she seemed very close to. I know people do voluntarily go missing all the time, but that doesn't quite seem to fit with the information we know about her. It seemed like she regularly kept in touch with her family. If it was something like she broke up with her boyfriend and they were parting ways, why not call your parents and let them know? If the van was joint ownership, why did he drive the van home alone? If it was a break-up, why not end the trip and get back to Florida together?

Things don't quite add up.

 

[LietKynes]

Where are her belongings, clothes, toiletries? Phone, ID? Did they come back with boyfriend or did she take them with her?

Ita.
Join the club.
I'm interested in her belongings as some ladies are possessive about their things, and even if skipping town away from their significant other wouldn't leave certain items behind !
Imo.

 

[Speculaytor]

According to a couple commenters on her Insta, the butterfly mural is in Ogden, Utah.

Thank you. Was that on their trip? She was in Grand Teton (according to her mother) when she called her mother on 8/25, the day the pic was posted.

 

[LietKynes]

The least likely scenario is that he woke up one morning to find her gone and decided to pack up and drive home to Florida. Most people, even young people in that kind of scenario, would be concerned about their missing loved one and would reach out to LE and or family to get help to locate and make sure that person was okay.

Even if she voluntarily left, it's odd she wouldn't contact her family, which she seemed very close to. I know people do voluntarily go missing all the time, but that doesn't quite seem to fit with the information we know about her. It seemed like she regularly kept in touch with her family. If it was something like she broke up with her boyfriend and they were parting ways, why not call your parents and let them know? If the van was joint ownership, why did he drive the van home alone? If it was a break-up, why not end the trip and get back to Florida together?

Things don't quite add up.

Good points and makes most theories implausible.
I keep trying to remind myself that some are wired differently.
But it's so far out there to think this was an amicable arrangement -- BL driving their (her ?) van home without her !
Before this trip... weren't they both living with his parents ?

Like I said... devils' advocate.
I'm leaning a bit one way.
But firmly on the fence.
Hoping Gabby's found before another thread -- as in soon !
I want to be wrong in my musings, and that she's ok somehow.
Imo.

 

[HolographicOne]

My head is spinning a little with all the speculation that's circulating. I'm trying to keep facts from fiction:

I haven't found verification the van was hers.

No eta on BL's return.

The only evidence that the last texts "weren't GP" was no facetime on that day.

Aside from those, what do we know about the itinerary they hadn't completed yet? What about the friends they were supposed to meet up with?

 

[wyome]

Am I reading correctly? Is it true that young men and women no longer value and hold true that you leave the dance on the horse that brought you, and leave no friend behind, ever?

Nope, still holds true for many. We're just spending too much time reading here.

 

[PixieStix]

Like I said... devils' advocate.
I'm leaning a bit one way.
But firmly on the fence.
Hoping Gabby's found before another thread -- as in soon !
I want to be wrong in my musings.
Imo.

I was devils' advocating you right back!

 

[oviedo]

Ah, but it happens all the time. And all it takes is a split second of anger.

Exactly just check out our located -missing and now located deceased threads - I’m trying to come up with any logical reason he left the area and did not report her missing - I wonder if the van has transponders so some of the route back to FL may be tracked? License plate readers along the way?
JMO