WY WY - Stuart Isaac, 48, car found in Yellowstone, 26 Sept 2010

  • #21
Sorry, I should have finished watching that video on the link I posted before finishing the earlier post. The video says he is divorced and living with his niece and her husband.

Also, he left a SUV and a motorcycle behind at his house. That, and a Lexus means he is reasonably wealthy I think.

I did not look at the video otherwise I would have learned he was divorced. (another reason I did not want to inject names, here my info was incomplete)

so we still have 20 days that are so far unaccounted for on his trip between the date he left the note and when his car was discovered in Yellowstone.
 
  • #22
Unless he's a mountain man, or had an accomplice following in a different car, he's not disappearing from the Craig Pass area. That's one of the most remote areas of the park that's accessible by car. He'd have to walk at least six or seven miles down the road, even farther if he went into the back country.

If the car had been found near a busy area such as Old Faithful, I might consider the possibility, but there's little if any public transportation in Yellowstone at any time, and this late in the year, most of that is shut down. Somebody trying to get out would have to bum a ride with somebody or arrange for somebody like Karst Stage to pick him up. He'd likely be remembered.

carbuff, Good reading you, I'm glad you contributed to the discussion.
Thanks for the info on Craigs Pass. I visited YS in July/Aug of '08 &'09, so the park was crowded. I do recall seeing quite a few hitch hikers during my tour tho.

If foul play is involved in his disappearance, then perhaps there are two perps and they chose to dump the car there since visitors are sparce this time of year. I hate even thinking this but......there are lots of locations in Yellowstone where someone could easily dump a body off the side of a cliff in a manner of seconds. UGH! If there was an accomplice to pick up whoever drove the Lexus there, I would bet it was prearranged because wireless service is sparce up there. this is all hypothetical.......

do you know if there are any of those bubbling pots or paint pots in the Craigs Pass area? I must go back and check the map.

I sure hope there is a copy of the pass/receipt inside the vehicle....or even better, video cams at the ticket booths.

MOO

wm
 
  • #23
carbuff, Good reading you, I'm glad you contributed to the discussion.
Thanks for the info on Craigs Pass. I visited YS in July/Aug of '08 &'09, so the park was crowded. I do recall seeing quite a few hitch hikers during my tour tho.

If foul play is involved in his disappearance, then perhaps there are two perps and they chose to dump the car there since visitors are sparce this time of year. I hate even thinking this but......there are lots of locations in Yellowstone where someone could easily dump a body off the side of a cliff in a manner of seconds. UGH! If there was an accomplice to pick up whoever drove the Lexus there, I would bet it was prearranged because wireless service is sparce up there. this is all hypothetical.......

do you know if there are any of those bubbling pots or paint pots in the Craigs Pass area? I must go back and check the map.

I sure hope there is a copy of the pass/receipt inside the vehicle....or even better, video cams at the ticket booths.

MOO

wm

Hitchhikers are common in the summer, but I don't think spouse and I saw any when we were there a couple of days after Mr. Isaac went missing. (We were visiting family in Montana.)

My detailed hiking map is not showing any thermal features anywhere near Craig Pass -- there's a remote basin near Shoshone Lake, but that's quite a hike. Also not the best of places to dispose of a body since the bones tend to wash up on the edges and be rather noticeable, though I suppose a very acid hot pool wouldn't have that problem.

It is a steep rugged area. It would be very easy for somebody not used to the terrain to step out of his car to stretch his legs for a few minutes, walk into the woods, and get lost or stumble over a ledge or run into a hungry bear or an elk in rut.

eta: and Craig Pass is at almost 10,000 feet. Anyone can get altitude sickness at that height -- it might have made him dizzy and disoriented, or even triggered a heart attack if he wasn't in good shape.
 
  • #24
Hitchhikers are common in the summer, but I don't think spouse and I saw any when we were there a couple of days after Mr. Isaac went missing. (We were visiting family in Montana.)

My detailed hiking map is not showing any thermal features anywhere near Craig Pass -- there's a remote basin near Shoshone Lake, but that's quite a hike. Also not the best of places to dispose of a body since the bones tend to wash up on the edges and be rather noticeable, though I suppose a very acid hot pool wouldn't have that problem.

It is a steep rugged area. It would be very easy for somebody not used to the terrain to step out of his car to stretch his legs for a few minutes, walk into the woods, and get lost or stumble over a ledge or run into a hungry bear or an elk in rut.

I see what you're saying. It would be very easy to pull off for a quick pee in the brush unseen with visitors being sparce and also easy to surprise the wildlife! I hope park rangers are searching the immediate area around where his car was found.

I also hope that the Lexus has GPS and authorities are able to track his movements along his journey. Cell phone records/pings may also hold clues, as well as his PC. He may have mapquested his route.

Just some ideas...randomly typed. :)

wm
 
  • #25
carbuff, I just saw you ETA. This is a viable theory, IMO. I get terrible vertigo on some of those steep roads in YS. (I just try to look straight at the road) The vertigo coupled with the elevation and lack of oxygen makes me really dizzy at times.

wm
 
  • #26
I am beginning to think, and perhaps I'll be proven wrong, that since he did not leave a wife (we know nothing about children at this point in time), that LE will focus almost exclusively on Yellowstone as opposed to questioning why he made this trip at all.

the usual types of questions we ask - laptop, internet usage, cell phone records, relationships, finances, etc - might not factor into what the National Park Service police are focusing on.

I'd love to know some of the basics but who is there to give out the info? his niece? who knows what she knew about his ordinary comings and goings.

very strange case and I still think the path to finding an answer starts with why he made the trip to begin with. I don't know anyone who would drive cross country without making arrangements with work and family, like who is going to pay the bills as they come due, etc.
 
  • #27
Bumping up in hopes of info................
 
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  • #29
nothing really new but I found this article. the most interesting thing here (in my opinion) is that almost no one vanishes at Yellowstone. the article cites one case from earlier this year (no thread here on WS) of a guy whose car was left in Yellowstone but he committed suicide far from the vehicle.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/l...missing-in-Yellowstone-1118495-104363048.html

Yeah, that's true, even people who fall into Yellowstone Canyon or break through thin crust into hot pots or get eaten by bears are usually found within a few hours.

I think committing suicide far from the vehicle is a definite possibility in this case as well. I hope not, poor man, but the way he headed out without warning or plan sounds bad.
 
  • #30
Yeah, that's true, even people who fall into Yellowstone Canyon or break through thin crust into hot pots or get eaten by bears are usually found within a few hours.

I think committing suicide far from the vehicle is a definite possibility in this case as well. I hope not, poor man, but the way he headed out without warning or plan sounds bad.

I was going to say why go all the way to Yellowstone if that was his plan, i.e. suicide.

then again, at the risk of sounding macabre, maybe it was like a bucket list thing.
 
  • #31
I was going to say why go all the way to Yellowstone if that was his plan, i.e. suicide.

then again, at the risk of sounding macabre, maybe it was like a bucket list thing.

Yeah, that would make sense. It's beautiful up at Craig Pass. Very peaceful, and when he was there it was full of fall color, golden aspen and bright red berry brush under the lodgepole pines.
 
  • #32
nothing really new here but found this blogspot on Stuart Isaac. Apparently he is either a native of or ethnically a Pacific islander:

http://palauanmissing.blogspot.com/

near the bottom of the page is a link to some comments and someone said "you are wanted in Guam..." but I doubt that is wanted as in a criminal sense.
 
  • #33
oh now here is something. I am quoting something from the link and posting the whole thing:

I was one of the K9 handlers and the evidence we have is that his keys were left in his car the only things reported missing were his laptop and some anti depression pills and his cell phone. He left a note to his 17 year old son saying that he could have the house motorcycle and anything else he wanted so long as he could pay for it

http://yosemitenews.info/forum/read.php?1,29060,29276

first thought is the combination of depression pills and that note left behind makes this look to be a likely suicide. but if he took the laptop with him did he want it to appear to be suicide? if he did not commit suicide, how did he get out of the park without a second vehicle? a kindly stranger?
 
  • #34
oh now here is something. I am quoting something from the link and posting the whole thing:

I was one of the K9 handlers and the evidence we have is that his keys were left in his car the only things reported missing were his laptop and some anti depression pills and his cell phone. He left a note to his 17 year old son saying that he could have the house motorcycle and anything else he wanted so long as he could pay for it

http://yosemitenews.info/forum/read.php?1,29060,29276

first thought is the combination of depression pills and that note left behind makes this look to be a likely suicide. but if he took the laptop with him did he want it to appear to be suicide? if he did not commit suicide, how did he get out of the park without a second vehicle? a kindly stranger?
Thanks webrocket. I have been looking for some news on Isaac from time to time. The note says it all I suppose. Really sad. Maybe he left the laptop elsewhere or gave it away earlier? Strange thing is that there were no hiking trails near where the car was found, but I guess he could have walked anywhere. Hopefully, he will be found.
 
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  • #37
BUMPING for Stuart. Missing 2 years now. :(
 
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  • #39
The Charley Project

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/i/isaac_stuart.html

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  • #40
My personal view is that his car may have been planted at Yellowstone and he's nowhere near. My mother's friend vanished, and one of the family's cars were found at the San Francisco airport, which was 60 miles from where the friend lived. It rang false to my mother and me since we knew that the friend was afraid to drive in San Francisco, and the car was also her husband's old car that didn't run that well whereas the car she routinely drove was a much newer one. The friend's body was eventually found at Yosemite, over 100 miles from both the airport and her home.
 

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