Zach Adams on trial for the kidnapping and murder of Holly Bobo Sept 20 & 21, 2017

[Niner]

I hear the Judge - but no tweets yet!

 

[Emi]

[video=twitter;910565277342998529]https://twitter.com/WSMVCarley/status/910565277342998529[/video]

[video=twitter;910565817896628228]https://twitter.com/bchapman_WREG3/status/910565817896628228[/video]

[video=twitter;910565766759673868]https://twitter.com/MarandaFaris/status/910565766759673868[/video]

 

[Ellej]

My thoughts in red.

Yes, if you don't believe any of what Autry said, which it sounds like you don't. Not one thing? Really? This case is more hard pressed if you don't find his witness credible at all. One thing if you think a couple things were left out. But if you trash his whole testimony, it's a problem to prove guilt.

And you don't believe any of the witnesses were telling either the truth or that Zach was lying to them in ALL cases. Got it.

So that means you think ZA is innocent of this crime? Would you claim not guilty?

Or just that you would claim guilty, you just don't believe Autry's version of events?



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[Niner]

Carley Gordon 2 mins ago
Court is now back in session, the defense's cell phone expert is back on the stand #HollyBobo

2 mins ago
Reeves says Autry, Zach Adams, Shayne Austin, and Dylan Adams were at Birdsong repeatedly throughout April '11 #HollyBobo


from https://twitter.com/hashtag/hollybobo?lang=en

 

[Niner]

Okay I see you Emi! :wave:

 

[Emi]

[video=twitter;910566308986703872]https://twitter.com/FOXNashville/status/910566308986703872[/video]

[video=twitter;910566866459934720]https://twitter.com/CCLawNewz/status/910566866459934720[/video]

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Just looked at your link - but can't find the specific post - you have a # for that? And you have 2017 as the year?

:seeya: Don't have post #s - there are several.

But if you hit that link, it will take you to page 27 of that thread, then scroll down.


Link: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...14-2017/page27

 

[Ellej]

For me - throw out the gun - I don't actually care about the actual weapon itself since the one they recovered doesn't have blood evidence, fingerprints or forensics, and multiple people say you can't prove that actual gun killed holly Bobo.

I don't actually need the gun as a part of this testimony to convict.

Still guilty as charged.

Skull had a bullet through it.

That's all that matters to me (as far as the gun goes) right now because the darn TBI couldn't get this case done more quickly and effectively hence providing more physical evidence.

So a guilty conviction still comes from witness testimony, Autry and others for me. As well as Bobo's phone pings, and these guys.

Not from the physical gun itself, or it's finding. I could be on the jury and not be hung up on the gun one bit.


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[QPRfan]

I am certainly not an expert and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but in regards to the lack of "ballistics" on the gun, I believe one of the major goals of ballistics is matching a bullet to a specific gun. Since no bullet was recovered AFAIK there would be not be the necessary material for that type of ballistics testing. Without the bullet, the only relevant "ballistics" would be the size of the hole in the skull and the angle created by entry and exit wounds.


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[crhedBngr]

Is it me, or is the witness going into too much detail on the cellphone signals, therefore making this testimony a bit too complicated?

Just MVHO.

ETA: We're back on sea-sickness alert.

 

[JenaTaoson]

Is it me, or is the witness going into too much detail on the cellphone signals, therefore making this testimony a bit too complicated?

Just MVHO.

Yup. Im guessing thats why our gentle toned swaying attorney is doing cross.

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[Plumeria5]

If I was in a dire situation I would want this attorney on my side. He is so calm, assuring, not panicked (although I bet his heart is racing), in control. Love him!

 

[Bravo]

I like him too.

 

[crhedBngr]

If I was in a dire situation I would want this attorney on my side. He is so calm, assuring, not panicked (although I bet his heart is racing), in control. Love him!

Yes, I like his calm demeanor as well.

 

[Bravo]

I think he is doing a great job bringing out possibilities on the phones.

 

[JenaTaoson]

I think he is doing a great job bringing out possibilities on the phones.

I'm enjoying it, he's making the cellphone expert very chill.

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[SteveS]

- The gun bartered was identified as the same gun that was used as HB was shot.
- How do we know it was the same gun?
We DO NOT know it was the same gun - NO ballistics tests ... nothing !
IF it was the murder weapon, there would have been ballistics tests proving it ...

I'm glad someone else has noticed the above, besides just me. I keep seeing comments about the gun as some sort of indicator here, and it's just not. The evidence is incredibly vague and general, and I think the state is hoping it will be taken as more than it actually is.

While the state introduced all sorts of testimony about a particular gun, they couldn't even determine with any certainty what caliber of gun shot HB.

So they can at best prove that they found a gun that - like thousands of others - could have fit her wound. But otoh a different gun owned by a different person who was in that county, and even a gun of a completely different caliber, might have done it just as well. And they couldn't even say for sure if the shot that caused the wound was before or after she was dead, so there's that as well.

 

[Plumeria5]

This attorney is awesome! Quietly...knocking it out of the park!

Expert: "Correct, correct, correct....."

 

[Ellej]

While for me, Autry's testimony is believable....in response to any thought here that the other witnesses that took the stand for the prosecution are either lying or attesting to Zach's bragging every time....

One witness that I just can't "throw out" for either reason no matter what is the one witness ---and I'm gonna need help on a name ----is the witness that took the stand saying "Zach told me he didn't kill her, but he said he did the worst part of it."

Frankly, the way that was told, I don't believe it could be made up. Or that it would be made up.

I believe at some point in a jail cell, you tell the truth to someone and not ever single thing that comes out of you is a lie. If it was, this many witnesses wouldn't travel from Out of state like some of these folks did to testify if in their gut they thought Zach Adams was lying. One maybe. But not that many.

On the religious witness ---I don't think Zach had converted by any means, but if a religious guy is in the cell next to him reading a Bible and you have hours upon hours to sit there with nothing to do, no drug phone calls to make, no social media, I don't think it's an odd question for Zach to ask. Doesn't mean he believes any of it, or that he has asked God for forgiveness. It just means that he was curious about it. He could have been curious what the other guy thought. People who truly don't know about God and have never been exposed, even thought about it or talked about it ever, can ask questions. Doesn't mean they become a Christian in 5 minutes or have changed their life, mind, or conscience or behavior.

If I'm on a jury with someone saying not guilty, and "throwing out testimony" on THAT many witnesses, I'm sitting down and saying, alright, prove us wrong. Let's go through every witness and you tell me why you don't believe each one or what you don't believe about them specifically and convince us. I'm probably not one you want to be on a jury with, but I would stick to my convictions -----no way am I going to let this guy off with not guilty.


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[SteveS]

Why have Dylan, Shayne and Justin all said that Zach kidnapped and killed her? What motivated that testimony if there is no connection to any of them?

Wait, what? Only JA testified that, and his testimony is that it was about a drug-making deal with Clint in which HB was a bystander in the wrong place at the wrong time.