Zellner Tweets

[missy1974]

You know...something just bothered me about the "snitch" comment. Thinking about it more...I wonder if Pam was on the property the night before she found it~~so she knew exactly where to go when she got there Saturday morning. I still think someone is talking, maybe RH or SB?

I think someone is definitely talking, not sure if it's more than 1 person or not, and every day I think it's someone different that is talking! LOL I have even considered that it might be support staff at either MCSO or CASO, sometimes the 'higher ups' never give support staff credit for what they know or hear, they are usually very underestimated. JMO

Also don't forget that someone was at the Salvage Yard the night before Pam went, another cousin of TH's IIRC. And Earl told Pam that someone came 45 minutes before her and asked if they could drive through the yard and he let them. She wasn't the first person to be there. There are just so many different scenario's!

 

[dexter75]

I think someone is definitely talking, not sure if it's more than 1 person or not, and every day I think it's someone different that is talking! LOL I have even considered that it might be support staff at either MCSO or CASO, sometimes the 'higher ups' never give support staff credit for what they know or hear, they are usually very underestimated. JMO

Also don't forget that someone was at the Salvage Yard the night before Pam went, another cousin of TH's IIRC. And Earl told Pam that someone came 45 minutes before her and asked if they could drive through the yard and he let them. She wasn't the first person to be there. There are just so many different scenario's!

BBM

YES!
OMG, and it drives me crazy!:gaah:

 

[dexter75]

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I wonder if she is talking about Pam "God led me to it" Sturm?

IMO,

IF she IS talking about PS AND has PROOF:thinking:
PROOF that it was not GOD who lead her to the Rav that day.

Wonder what Pam will think/or is thinking?:scared:

 

[dexter75]

Well, this is very interesting....

Looking at the trail transcripts, we have the following who said "no one ever"

Cross Examination by Attorney Strang of Lieutenant Lenk--"And no one ever admitted doing anything wrong in connection with that earlier case to you, did they?"

Cross Examination by Attorney Strange of Mark Weigert--"And you learned that no one ever presented the check for payment, or tried to cash the check?" (In regard to SS's check he wrote and gave TH on that fateful day)

Lastly, Buting mentions it in his closing statement...And so they come up with this theory, this absolutely preposterous theory on how this magic key, that no one ever finds before, suddenly appears in plain view, out of this bookcase. (this is referring to when Kucharski was with Colburn and Lenk when they found the key) (Tyson was told to watch Colburn and Lenk, but Kurcharski was not told to watch them)

So, we have Lenk, Weigert, Buting making that statement. Buting in reference to Lenk and Colburn finding the key with Kucharski...couple that with the statement "Planters Remorse" can be figure out who is talking???

IMHO, someone is talking and I personally think it is Weigert.

" Very interesting " would be an understatement , should one happen to interpret this tweet the way YOU just broke it down for us all, BCA:tyou: ( I do )
:rollercoaster:
I wonder( this may be a dumb question but hey, this chic, NEVER in my life have I been in trouble:fear: )
With everything KZ knows, has learned, is learning, do you think she's sharing much info with SA or the family? plans to? I can't see it.
Not to sound mean ...I can't see anyone in the family ( including SA ) keeping quiet about ANYTHING she might reveal. ( RE; strategy ) I hope SA is OK with just trusting " she's got him covered " as I wouldn't want his case " over before it had ever begun " ( seems to be a PATTERN where SA is concerned ). JMO

 

[BigCityAccountant]

She must have gotten some test results back from the carbon and epigenetics testing. It must be favorable as she's calling out "evidence planters" in her tweet. She must be very confident in her position on this case to point blank call out some as "evidence planters".

 

[missy1974]

She must have gotten some test results back from the carbon and epigenetics testing. It must be favorable as she's calling out "evidence planters" in her tweet. She must be very confident in her position on this case to point blank call out some as "evidence planters".

I don't think she has done any testing yet BCA. The last thing we know of was the letter that the Judge sent to the State, which IMO said, get your ducks in a row and file your response and we will go from there.

JMO but I don't understand the hold up on getting any of the items that were covered in the 2007 order stating that without delay they would be provided to the defense. I can understand if they want to argue about the rest... but the RAV4 blood should not be an issue.

On a related note, I had a thought about those dang swabs to today while I was at work LOL I was looking at the interior of my truck while it was warming up.... I was thinking geesh, I need to clean the dash, I couldn't believe how dusty it got in the past week or two... which got me to thinking that those control swabs (except the CD case control swab which looked black to me) that were taken for the FBI were awfully clean considering where she was, where she drove even just that day, no way that dash wasn't dirty, and if it was clean, then IIRC EDTA is in most cleaning products. Something just doesn't make sense to me about it all. But JMO.

 

[missy1974]

New tweet, not directly related, but directly related (depending on how you feel about KK :thinking: )

 

[BigCityAccountant]

New tweet, not directly related, but directly related (depending on how you feel about KK :thinking: )

Well, you know she is putting it out there with the MaM hashtag, so it's relevant, IMHO. So, what did she find that KK withheld, I wonder...:notgood:

I'm thinking if she was able to identify that the last cell phone ping was in Whitelaw~~then I'm guessing KK must have known that and withheld it. I wonder what else there might be....JMHO, of course.

 

[krkrjx]

New tweet, not directly related, but directly related (depending on how you feel about KK :thinking: )

That's the same thing that another former prosecutor did that ended her career as a prosecutor. I won't name names but every person on this board is familiar with her name. She was forced to quit even though her track record for wins was excellent. She had been revered for her entire career and when she left there was a lot of head shaking about how it was "now obvious" how she won so many. Withhold exculpatory evidence was the accusation; she denied it and denies it to this day--but she quit her job over it, which tells me there was enough evidence of her wrongdoing. And FYI, none of her convictions were overturned because of her misconduct in office, none that I know of anyway. And by the way, she recently claimed there was "absolutely nothing wrong" with the Dassey interrogation.

So--it happens in every state, I would bet. Some jurisdictions are worse than others but people put in positions of power need to use that power for the purposes intended. Not for their own gain, prestige, and praise from the masses. And certainly a loss in any game played fairly speaks higher for the person than a win that comes through cheating. Wish they could just see that; only then will corruption no longer be par for the course within positions of power.

 

[missy1974]

I'm not sure where the quote she has tweeted is from.... an article? and possibly from a friend of TH's? I just got home and saw it so wanted to share, will post if I find where it came from.


ETA: it's from this article:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...h-friend-fears-shes-being-forgotten/90908056/

 

[Deleted member 39678]

New tweet, not directly related, but directly related (depending on how you feel about KK :thinking: )

What we really need in California is to make Legislative misconduct a felony. Every year the state legislature and governor Jerry make things in this state worse. That's what I call misconduct on a grand scale. JMO

 

[CoolJ]

What we really need in California is to make Legislative misconduct a felony. Every year the state legislature and governor Jerry make things in this state worse. That's what I call misconduct on a grand scale. JMO

What kind of "legislative misconduct". I have never heard the term. Do you mean enacting legislation through manipulative/illegal means or enacting legislation that you personally don't believe in?

 

[Karinna]

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I'm not sure where the quote she has tweeted is from.... an article? and possibly from a friend of TH's? I just got home and saw it so wanted to share, will post if I find where it came from.


ETA: it's from this article:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...h-friend-fears-shes-being-forgotten/90908056/

That' s a good article and kind of shows how very important it is that justice is served properly otherwise there is this kind of fiasco. It's totally unfair for the murder victim and their families and friends and totally unfair on convicting innocent people as well for them to spend all those wrongful years in prison. It's a double edged sword, and as long as human beings fail the system also fails. But to set someone up deliberately for a false conviction by authorities entrusted to do right is just evil, and there needs to be zero tolerance for that, IMO.

 

[CoolJ]

That' s a good article and kind of shows how very important it is that justice is served properly otherwise there is this kind of fiasco. It's totally unfair for the murder victim and their families and friends and totally unfair on convicting innocent people as well for them to spend all those wrongful years in prison. It's a double edged sword, and as long as human beings fail the system also fails. But to set someone up deliberately for a false conviction by authorities entrusted to do right is just evil, and there needs to be zero tolerance for that, IMO.

Yeah, planted evidence and a frame job is not what I would call a technicality. SA is not going to get out of prison on a technicality. JMO

 

[Karinna]

Yeah, planted evidence and a frame job is not what I would call a technicality. SA is not going to get out of prison on a technicality. JMO

I agree CoolJ. As KZ said it will be a big hurdle to cross but she feels she can do it, and she seems pretty confident in what she says.

 

[Limaes]

I agree CoolJ. As KZ said it will be a big hurdle to cross but she feels she can do it, and she seems pretty confident in what she says.

She was confident about Calusinski too and look what happened there. The Judge even gave her a verbal spanking.

 

[Karinna]

She was confident about Calusinski too and look what happened there. The Judge even gave her a verbal spanking.

On the whole she has a really good track record though. You win some you lose some i guess.

 

[missy1974]

Zellner is no where near done with Melissa's case AFAIK. And again, wasn't it the same judge that ruled no new trial that was also in charge of the original trial? I think I read that Zellner somewhat expected the denial, pretty sure she hasn't taken her ball and gone home on that case yet. Jmo

 

[Limaes]

No doubt she is not finished with that case yet. Unless she can come up with actual evidence instead of allegations, the result won't change. Same with SA's case.

 

[missy1974]

links to this article:
http://www.postcrescent.com/story/n...ish-scientist-break-open-avery-case/92459398/