ZFG Civil Case: Casey's Deposition #2

[LambChop]

For those of you wondering how Casey could possibly make an argument on appeal that the lying convictions should be entirely set aside for insufficient evidence, my assumption is that the argument will be the same one made by Mason in his motion for directed verdict. (That's the oral motion the defense made after the prosecution rested.) IIRC he said that there was insufficient evidence of the lies because the evidence (Casey's statements) should have been tossed out based on the Miranda warning violation.

But if they showed the video at the hearing of CA's deposition wouldn't there argument be that when KC had the chance to clear ZG's name, she did not with purpose? jmo

 

[bayouland]

For those of you wondering how Casey could possibly make an argument on appeal that the lying convictions should be entirely set aside for insufficient evidence, my assumption is that the argument will be the same one made by Mason in his motion for directed verdict. (That's the oral motion the defense made after the prosecution rested.) IIRC he said that there was insufficient evidence of the lies because the evidence (Casey's statements) should have been tossed out based on the Miranda warning violation.

Maybe I'm crazy (and maybe this questions should be in the lawyer thread) but doesn't it make a difference that she has already served the time for these offenses, they are done and over with.

She was found guilty, served her time. This seems crazy to me.

 

[Isabelle]

How is Casey Anthony managing to keep herself secluded? It's been almost 5 months now.

 

[logicalgirl]

How is Casey Anthony managing to keep herself secluded? It's been almost 5 months now.

I suspect that most of the media know full well where she is and where she is being sheltered. However, HHJP and the civil court judge both said her location is to be kept secret, so I suspect there are ramifications, and serious ones at that for anyone who leaks where she can be found.

It also might endanger whether or not that media outlet will have any contact with her when Missy Anthony decides she wants to be outed. And there really isn't a huge interest in where she actually is. Most of us have a very good idea where it is. Big Whoop....all IMO of course.

 

[LambChop]

How is Casey Anthony managing to keep herself secluded? It's been almost 5 months now.

My guess is she's posting on different forums and blogs. What else can she do, she has no friends, she can't run to the mall and spend hours like she did before, new friends are out of the question, she can't text constantly so that leaves the computer. Yep....I would not be at all surprised. jmo

 

[FLmom777]

I suspect she could be posting on websleuths. I have been suspicious on another thread that it could be her, and it seems I am not alone in my thoughts.

 

[HMSHood]

How is Casey Anthony managing to keep herself secluded? It's been almost 5 months now.

She is pondering if she should go to Abbottabad to live in the compound or move to Topeka to join Westboro Baptist Church.

In all seriousness, I think Anthony is inside all day as she has no friends as she has this "steamroller mentality".

 

[LambChop]

I suspect she could be posting on websleuths. I have been suspicious on another thread that it could be her, and it seems I am not alone in my thoughts.

Sometimes people give themselves away by their style of writing. We have seen in KC's jailhouse letters that she does have a very destinctive style of writing (very immature), and I think it would be very easy to spot.

It's interesting because anyone is free to join in the discussions here so if she were posting here I wonder if her attorneys are aware of it. I think if I were JB I would want to know. But then again look at how he is letting GG talk. jmo

 

[Well Done 99]

I suspect she could be posting on websleuths. I have been suspicious on another thread that it could be her, and it seems I am not alone in my thoughts.

If that's the case (wouldn't surprise me) I hope she fesses up because without doubt there are a few things a few people here would like to 'ask' her.

 

[LambChop]

If that's the case (wouldn't surprise me) I hope she fesses up because without doubt there are a few things a few people here would like to 'ask' her.

We would never know for sure, lol. Really what would stop her. I'm sure any computer she would be using is not listed under her name, she has the perfect cover and presumably no one would know. She can pretty much say whatever she wanted to and not fear being uncovered unless she revealed information that only she and her guards (love that word), oh and yes, her attorneys would know about. Then only they would be aware and be left to deal with it.

But in her letters to "Cookie" she does have a very immature style of writing which almost reminds me of the way JW wrote. Almost as if it were a 12 year old writing. lol So, yes, I could see her posting on blogs just to stir things up a bit. Wouldn't M&M love to know she was doing that. lol jmo

 

[Intermezzo]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...on-hearing-20111208,0,5039527.story?track=rss

He(Greene) added, "The truth is that Zenaida Gonzalez is a money-grubbing plaintiff that likes to see herself on TV. She is not Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez [the individual Casey Anthony referred to in her initial statements]."

After hearing some of Greene's words, Dill said, "I think it's ironic....Casey Anthony's lawyers talking bad about our client."

Oh the Irony :floorlaugh:

So, according to Greene, Zenaida is a money-grubbing, media seeking plaintiff as opposed to his client, Offender Casey Anthony, who is a documented liar, who pled guilty in court to theft, has been jobless since abandoning her job in 2006 and who wrote in a letter of being on the Howard Stern show and mentioned her breasts...

 

[krkrjx]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...on-hearing-20111208,0,5039527.story?track=rss

He(Greene) added, "The truth is that Zenaida Gonzalez is a money-grubbing plaintiff that likes to see herself on TV. She is not Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez [the individual Casey Anthony referred to in her initial statements]."

After hearing some of Greene's words, Dill said, "I think it's ironic....Casey Anthony's lawyers talking bad about our client."

Oh the Irony :floorlaugh:

So, according to Greene, Zenaida is a money-grubbing, media seeking plaintiff as opposed to his client, Offender Casey Anthony, who is a documented liar, who pled guilty in court to theft, has been jobless since abandoning her job in 2006 and who wrote in a letter of being on the Howard Stern show and mentioned her breasts...

If they want to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey Anthony was specifically referring to another individual when she named her child's abductor, they need to produce that other individual.

Even then, this suit is not moot. The Zenaida who is now suing is the one who was questioned by LE in regard to Caylee's whereabouts. She is the one who was discriminated against based on perceived involvement in a child kidnapping.

It matters not that ZG is not the *real* zanny. She was victimized because Casey Anthony publicly used her name in a child's abduction.

 

[NavySubMom]

I suspect she could be posting on websleuths. I have been suspicious on another thread that it could be her, and it seems I am not alone in my thoughts.

I hear you FLmom and I agree it could be her,

or I'll raise you one....... the longer I watch it, I think it may be her mother, again :banghead: , always has to have the last word :floorlaugh:

 

[FLmom777]

I hear you FLmom and I agree it could be her,

or I'll raise you one....... the longer I watch it, I think it may be her mother, again :banghead: , always has to have the last word :floorlaugh:

I don't think it is ca, simply by the adoration of jb. There are so many "smarmy" things I think of saying, but I've been good and sit on my hands.

:innocent:

 

[Eric's_Iguana]

Can you mention the name of the thread, or is that not allowed?

just wondering...

 

[FLmom777]

Can you mention the name of the thread, or is that not allowed?

just wondering...

I'm not sure on the rules about that. The messages have been in support of jb in another case. That should get you the right idea.

 

[AZlawyer]

But if they showed the video at the hearing of CA's deposition wouldn't there argument be that when KC had the chance to clear ZG's name, she did not with purpose? jmo

I was just pointing out what KC's argument would be on the appeal for the lying charges--because it came up in the ZG hearing--not what her argument would be on the defamation case.

Maybe I'm crazy (and maybe this questions should be in the lawyer thread) but doesn't it make a difference that she has already served the time for these offenses, they are done and over with.

She was found guilty, served her time. This seems crazy to me.

The conviction is still there. That's enough of a reason to appeal.

I suspect that most of the media know full well where she is and where she is being sheltered. However, HHJP and the civil court judge both said her location is to be kept secret, so I suspect there are ramifications, and serious ones at that for anyone who leaks where she can be found.

It also might endanger whether or not that media outlet will have any contact with her when Missy Anthony decides she wants to be outed. And there really isn't a huge interest in where she actually is. Most of us have a very good idea where it is. Big Whoop....all IMO of course.

I haven't looked at the orders in a while, but I don't think either HHJP or the ZG judge said that Casey's location had to be kept secret if anyone finds her.

 

[krkrjx]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...on-hearing-20111208,0,5039527.story?track=rss

He(Greene) added, "The truth is that Zenaida Gonzalez is a money-grubbing plaintiff that likes to see herself on TV. She is not Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez [the individual Casey Anthony referred to in her initial statements]."

After hearing some of Greene's words, Dill said, "I think it's ironic....Casey Anthony's lawyers talking bad about our client."

Oh the Irony :floorlaugh:

So, according to Greene, Zenaida is a money-grubbing, media seeking plaintiff as opposed to his client, Offender Casey Anthony, who is a documented liar, who pled guilty in court to theft, has been jobless since abandoning her job in 2006 and who wrote in a letter of being on the Howard Stern show and mentioned her breasts...

In this statement Greene is hinting that Casey has money.

 

[krkrjx]

I haven't looked at the orders in a while, but I don't think either HHJP or the ZG judge said that Casey's location had to be kept secret if anyone finds her.

Neither judge said her location had to be kept secret. They said her location should not be made known to the public by any court or state agency but never prohibited media or private citizens from outing her.

Could they even do that? I don't see how a private citizen or media reporter or anyone else not connected to the courts or state agencies involved could be ordered by a judge to not disclose what they find if they so choose.

 

[AZlawyer]

Neither judge said her location had to be kept secret. They said her location should not be made known to the public by any court or state agency but never prohibited media or private citizens from outing her.

Could they even do that? I don't see how a private citizen or media reporter or anyone else not connected to the courts or state agencies involved could be ordered by a judge to not disclose what they find if they so choose.

I think there would be First Amendment problems with such an order.