Zodiac 340 Cryptogram Solution

If you start with a seed, the trees will soon bear fruit...
That sounds stupid..Although, not wanting to start a continuing effort to prove my point, which is not my point, some people might want to use the -1 1 and +1 on the text. Still, if you do this, you will understand why I don't care who greysmith is or was. Just trying to be friendly, AWLIKS, try to think and work the puzzle, you have the answer...
 
AWLIKS,
Would you be my manager??? What a publicist......I'm doing a local double blind test of people I know, Of the letters that are shown, thats all they have to work with. another set is a random generated set. No one, not even myself, knows who gets what. The question is, of the answers, of what I think the alphabetic text is, who or whom will answer the same as I. I have a definitative answer...its not 2 or 3 words scripted diagonally and then to an "L" shape to make something. Letter for letter it makes an idea and mostly a sentence.{He didn't spell everything out perfectly}.
AWLIKS, Just open Excel and work it as stated, you will be surprised at how symplistic the entire code is. Otherwise ...as Gilda Radner would say "NEVERMIND"
 
AKWILKS,
I'm not wanting a show down,but, using the 340 and what and how to I mentioned to work out the meaning, one phrase came out "I CLUTZ FLIP MAP". I thought that was out of context until I worked the entire text. I can verify, and others the same. It is really a personal message to the editor and one line, referenced from the line above it says "-BYICMTUZGWOOL_OHJ

This is a bogus text but not the, or what was written text. The "O" is a zodiac symbol which includes an "O" and "T" amdand "X".
For those whom may need a help up....
do the -1 1 and +1 to this
If if comes out simlar something about a "OK CLUB IT NOZ DEBT", your close.
 
Although I Might sees a little critical, Awliks and others I am sorry, I'm going to try to post the complete decoded 340 teXt here.
It was in excel so here it is in plain text.(copywritten)

IF SMOKE AM OK INK U GOD
YOU BOZO NEWS . MAKE P
AY I CLUTZ FLIP MAP I S
TOP A LAWMAN ON STR JO
E BLU PUKE JOE OTOOL/
PASEVLO JOE BLEW PEN
A NUL POINT BY HM.OK J
O GO IF I NOT DO YOU. A B
ELL SAY NONE BUY BOOK
-SKUM 🤬🤬🤬🤬 NOZ U GAY-
TV SHOT DID YOU A PASVLO
OK DARTH NO SON. SNAF
U. A SUN TO JOE A COT A R
AG GO U GONNA.DA NUTS
SAY POT OK DEAL TOO I S
IC. NO CLIP OK. EXR FO
OD SUM ON DA TEL A JOK
U SOLD OLD POT I SHIP P
IG JELL A SAD SOB MIDD
L LEG A OK SON OK LIK IT

That's every word and letter. It's not subscribed from a different text that has been massaged out from someone else. I still don't understand how the original writer spelled out the origial message, in a small marker, top to bottom, and managed to write diagonally or backwards smaller thickness lines, bottom to top.
Don't be un original in thinking. To follow is not to lead.
(Didn't want to be too cryptic)

Later
 
If anyone reads this I threw in DARTH to see if anyone was paying attention...
 
I had postd the original begining of the matrix to see if anyone would like to try it out and work the puzzle. If anyone took the time they would see that their are multiple words that can be assembled from referencing just 3 letters.
I posted one version previously. I'm posting another. For those who are familiar with the time line and all the letters sent, see if this version works.

HE NAP BAM PLINK U GOE
A OUCH NO NEWS.
MAKE PAST CLUE TO FLIP MAP IS TOP.
MAKE MAP ON TUPLO MAN UP HID IN FOT POL I
PASAELO HAD CLEW PEN YOU LRN HO U BY FL.
SA I PHOTE JAPS MY SOS.
LA DA LUCY NONE BUY BOOK
-OK TATL IT NOZ ME BY-
U TRIP IF I DUN PASVLO PABLO KINN SON.
UP BET OK SUN U MINE A BIT A RAG FAM GONNA.
CLOTS U SAW ON TOLD FAM U NO IT ID.
ON A KIN OK.
EXR FOR CUTZ NO CLUE A VAJO BUTON TOLD ON 🤬🤬🤬 /
HOP HE LEV LAT A EZ NAM -
U CAN DI A OK SON PAVJL US.

Once again, this using every letter in the 340. With a shift from either the prior letter or next letter of what is in the original 340. Pretty sure that is 95%.
Any comments? Anyone try it?
 
Thanks Tom...er ah....Morf...
It was just something to let others to take a look. I think this is close. I've writen programs to work every combination of numbers available up to 40, and print it on a dot printer. (screwing around on the lotto) way too much paper. This, I looked at without the puter. It just seemed logical that instead of a 1 to 1 replacement that, if I were doing it, I would of used "Fiddler in the Rye, pg 157". But not being who wrote this, maybe they only had a limited selection of letters..like 26...and they might just not replace them but, just shift them. One up, one, and maybe One down, it might work. Not knowing how to spell "WAL-La", words appear. Maybe someone will have a larger vocabulary and work out the other possibilities.
I have 10 sets of combinations out to people to see how many words, in the matrix, I set up, could be obvious. After seeing some of the more localized words, like "Tuplo",(Which is on the local map referenced) I believe that there is some merit in the key.
I'm not sure about the "Japs" and the "SOS" though???
If anyone has a comment, this is not my life ambition, just seeing if I need to up my own medication. and I have 3 more weeks vacation...
Tom...er...ah...Morf...later.
 
Massachusetts Man Says He's Cracked Zodiac Killer Code
By Brandon Schillemat
Milbrae Patch, July 21, 2011, 10:10 AM EST

Corey Starliper believes he has solved the 41-year-old "340" cipher and has identified the legendary serial killer who terrorized northern California.

[...]

After the decryption of the first code, Zodiac sent many more communications to law enforcement and the media, including his most famous: a 340-character cipher, mailed to the San Francisco Chronicle, according to zodiackillerfacts.com. To this day, the cipher has not been completely cracked.

Starliper, however, believes he has found the solution to that code.

[...]

Starliper split his work into two sessions of 6 hours and 3 hours. When he was done, he had decoded the following text:

KILL/SLF/DR/HELP/ME/KILL/MYSELF/GAS/CHAMBER/AEIOUR/DAYS/QUESTIONSABLE/EVERYY/WAKING/MOMENT/IM/ALIVE/
MY/PRIDE/LOST/I/CANT/GO/ON/LIVING/IN/THIS/WAY/KILLING/PEOPLE/I/HAV/KILLD/SO/MANY/PEOPLE/CANT/HELP/MYSELF/
IM/SO/ANGRY/I/COULD/DO/MY/THING/IM/ALONE/IN/THIS/WORLD/MY/WHOLE/LIFE/FUL/O/LIES/
IM/UNABLE/TO/STOP/BY/THE/TIME/YOU/SOLVE/THIS/I/WILL/HAV/KILLD/ELEVEN/PEOPLE/
PLEASE/HELP/ME/STOP/KILLING/PEOPLE/PLEASE/MY/NAME/IS/LEIGH/ALLEN/
Full article: click here
 
Shadow..Good catch, well worth reading.
Crypto guys are not dumb. It has to be undeniable. If someone pops off and says "Not Valid", I think that's enough. But it looks like he almost has it.
I haven't seen the movie, not interested, because I started looking at this, not to be biased one way or the other, and until recently, I now know who Greysmith is, no disrespect.
I've looked at this several ways, working # 7 now.
If anyone could tell me if, either by the movie or from a reference, if Stein was missing an eye, then I believe #6 is the closest. Also, I have a reference in the code to a pen clew with the mints.
 
Moderator.
my posts 48 50...........What happened to the information i had in each.
post 48 shows nothing but a signature. and post 50 only shows part of the post?
 
Nothing more interesting than a mystery than the mysterious stuff that follows around one, eh?

More interesting was the suspect identified by Gareth Penn, a Zodiac buff who spent an inordinate amount of time with the binary calculations and codes in the Zodiac letters, both authentic and perhaps not so. He pinpointed an academic on the East Coast who often traveled to the relevant areas.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/notorious/zodiac/38.html
 
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I'm confused and a little weirded out :nuts::nuts:
 
Thank you very much! I am glad you find it interesting.

First to your question. Many think that the Zodiac mis-spelled words are intentional, an attempted misdirection on his part. Zodiac spelled many complex words correctly, like "ammonium nitrate", "fertilizer", "system" and many others. Yet he he also gave us "cid" for "kid" and many other wrongly spelled easy words. It seems an attempt to make detectives think he is uneducated. Remember also that Zodiac devised codes that the FBI and the military failed to break.

Ted Kaczynski used a similar misdirection as the Unabomber. He sent a letter to a prior victim Prof. Gerlernter, who had written in a book that 'anyone with a college degree can learn computers'. Kaczynski wrote him as the Unabomber and said (from memory) 'what about the rest of us? I suppose those wothout degrees don't coun't'. Ted recorded in his journal that this would make investigators think the Unabomber did not have a college degree - in fact Ted had a degree from Harvard and a PHD from Michigan, but the FBI profile said the Unabomber was likely an angry and undeducated airline mechanic.

Thank you for your information on "THEO" and "DEO". I personally think the most likely explanation for their appearance in the code is that "THEO" is the first four letters in the name "THEODORE", while "DEOR" has the last four. But in fairness I thought I should note that "THEO" is Greek for GOD and "DEO" Latin for GOD. I also thought it could be a double play, i.e., getting his name in there (to satisfy his ego) but also with a valid alternate explanation (God theme obscures true meaning). Your information puts a slightly different spin on it, so I will have to research that issue some more.

Is it not true that in a word like THEOLOGY, the prefix THEO means God or Diety? And while the Greeks believed in multiple Gods, assuming monotheism, would THEO be a rough translation as GOD?

Thanks again for the information.

zodiac32.jpg

In the cryptograms and Cipher blocks
a pattern of 3( LLL = 777)
also the backwards E makes a 3 also he uses _ in spots what do you think that means?
Also if the letters are faced toward a mirror the backwards letters some do look like a number sequence.
Could it be his SS number/
was it his phone number/
it means something...in some spots there are 4 L's +7777 which equals
28,
what are the birthdays of the so-far Suspects?
Are any birthdates with a 28?
7's ?
3's?

anyone have those suspect's actual birthdates or ages at the time of these crimes?
the numbers mean something and are clues for sure.
 
Hey this is pretty cool stuff although midas well be in french as I havn't a clue but none the less it's still intriging ..
 
In the cryptograms and Cipher blocks
a pattern of 3( LLL = 777)
also the backwards E makes a 3 also he uses _ in spots what do you think that means?
Also if the letters are faced toward a mirror the backwards letters some do look like a number sequence.
Could it be his SS number/
was it his phone number/
it means something...in some spots there are 4 L's +7777 which equals
28,
what are the birthdays of the so-far Suspects?
Are any birthdates with a 28?
7's ?
3's?

anyone have those suspect's actual birthdates or ages at the time of these crimes?
the numbers mean something and are clues for sure.

You can search SS numbers online, might be worth trying a few if you can work 'em out. I also noted the word 'lass' in the cryptogram, might refer to Donna Lass a possible victim.
 
Isn't Garreth Penn one of the detectives on the case? Maybe he as talkin at Garreth.
I noticed it coould say I will take 4teen teens to prove Genies the real zodiac
 

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