I don't think they can have a diving team when they have no idea where he might be. If in the water, he could be anywhere, even taken far away by the current. I'd think they'd need a particular area to search. Don't think they could drag a river.
Again, not to mention, holding someone against their will, which is kidnapping.Right now their liability extends to not over serving. To have some special room where bar workers are responsible for people’s well being while intoxicated, would increase that liability and potentially, the danger to employees.
BBM and of course, we can't legislate morality.Recently a local to me restaurant temporarily lost their liquor license because they served a customer a ton of shots in a short period. This customer left, made it only a few kilometres where he crashed his car and died. While the restaurant doesn't seem to have a legal obligation once the customer leaves the venue, I wonder where the moral line is.
I've never worked in the restaurant or bar industry. Maybe they see so many inebriated patrons that they become numb to the realities of the situation.
It’s happening to young black and Hispanic males in multiple states as well. In some of the missing persons groups I’m in, they’ve wondered if there was a serial killer possibly responsible.There are cases like this all over the country and there have been for years, but yet the go to is “these men are leaving bars, drunk, and walking into water“ are you kidding me? When are we gonna open to our eyes to the fact that the probability that there could be a group targeting these young Caucasian males across the country is extremely high at this point. Let’s open our eyes here folks if this were women we would call it what it is. MOO IMO
Maybe...but if so, they would have found him by now. He has to be in the river, in my opinion.
I know someone upthread stated dilapidated buildings, etc. were already checked, but I too am wondering about other commercial buildings. They typically have sprinkler rooms, mechanical rooms, etc. I hope the occupants of local buildings on his known route have taken the time to check these places out as well.I live in MI and a 36 year old man was found in an HVAC room where he went to shelter. Could Riley possibly have done something like that if he suffered a head injury?
This article mentions his friends paying their tab while Riley was escorted out of the bar and encouraged to move from in front of the entrance. (Do not know if 'their' tab included Riley but I think it's likely due to his state. Also thinking that's why it slowed friends down to get multiple tabs together). Riley then called his friend after leaving (presumably one of those paying the tab) saying he was in his way to the hotel.Has it been mentioned if RS paid his own tab before leaving?
I *think* from a practical perspective, bars don't want drunk people to either vomit (mess for staff to deal with and other customers will leave) or fall and get injured (ambulance comes, bureaucratic hassles ensue, customers leave). These in addition to the serving-an-intoxicated-person issues. I'm not saying it's right, but I think it's the reality.But, I wonder if the bar's bottom line would not benefit from better care for its customers by offering a place to wait - "If you would like to". no kidnapping, no forced holding. A courtesy offered to a guest.
It’s happening all around the world men missing after night out usually found in water. I think imo its not serial killer at play hereIt’s happening to young black and Hispanic males in multiple states as well. In some of the missing persons groups I’m in, they’ve wondered if there was a serial killer possibly responsible.
…and I agree.It’s happening all around the world men missing after night out usually found in water. I think imo its not serial killer at play here
This is what often happens, takes time for the alcohol to hit. When they drink too much too fast it hits real hardThis article mentions his friends paying their tab while Riley was escorted out of the bar and encouraged to move from in front of the entrance. (Do not know if 'their' tab included Riley but I think it's likely due to his state. Also thinking that's why it slowed friends down to get multiple tabs together). Riley then called his friend after leaving (presumably one of those paying the tab) saying he was in his way to the hotel.
Updates as the search for Riley Strain continues
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. – The search for Riley Strain pushes on. “Last evening, everything got stepped up dramatically. Unfortunately, with the way the world is right now, we have to get subpo…www.ozarksfirst.com
I'm wondering if the last drink/shot(s) Riley took before being escorted out hit him AFTER he made the call. So he was already drunk, escorted out, but was able to call his friend and then got more drunk/sick from last drink and couldn't navigate. His friend could have thought Riley sounded 'ok' on the phone but he got worse? MOO
What I meant by this is when you see a 6 foot something guy stumbling down the street, I understand why some people wouldn't be to keen on going to see what's up with him. Especially these days with tranq and spice out there. Now I do think someone should have called the policeI really couldn't tell what you meant by this, mst?
No one is seen on video following Riley, though. And in some similar cases, the man falling into the water - with no one around - has even been captured on security footage.
I know it feels illogical, feels like it has to be more. It's just so tragic, and you think, Why him? It is truly unfair. But there is no reason to think he was targeted, or?
Yes. If only he'd been arrested for Public Drunkenness that would probably just be an embarrassment now without him even knowing he could have vanished.What I meant by this is when you see a 6 foot something guy stumbling down the street, I understand why some people wouldn't be to keen on going to see what's up with him. Especially these days with tranq and spice out there. Now I do think someone should have called the police