goathairjones
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Some points that stuck out to me. Bolded by me.
“Some agree to talk, but they say they won’t name any neighbors who might have seen or heard something that night. ‘I’ll help you anyway I can,’ says Gus Coletti, a 76-year-old pigeon fancier who said he saw Gilbert that night. ‘Just don’t ask me to give up one of my neighbors."
IMO, something really strange is going on in that OBC. No one wants to tattle on their neighbor? Why are they scared to name names? It seems like they saw and know what happened, but they have this neighborhood pact where they have agreed to keep quiet. Isn’t THAT against the law? SPEAK UP, OAK BEACH PEOPLE!
Internetgirl, I think there may be some speculation in OBC as to who may be responsible for taking SG, but none of the residents want to name this person (for legal reasons or just out of fear).
“Gilbert became upset, since "she saw things weren’t going as she had hoped," and acted in an "erratic" way, Brewer said. He said her driver, Michael Pak, was waiting in an SUV outside and got her into the car to take her home, he thought.
But Gilbert took off on foot down The Fairway, about an hour before dawn, according to neighbors’ accounts.”
Does this mean SG got into MP’s car and he thought he would be taking her home, but then she took off on foot? Or he thought she would get in the car?
If JB stayed in the house, he would have no idea that SG didn't get into MP's car.
“Shannan had been using the same driver, Pak, for several months, and she trusted the 41-year-old man from Queens, Diaz said.”
This is the first time I have heard where Pak is from. I’m trying so hard to find some more info on him. ANYTHING. But I keep going in circles with phone numbers/addresses/middle initials/photos. If any fellow sleuthers find anything on him, please share or PM me. TIA.
MP is from Flushing, Queens. I forgot which was the correct address but you can find it here:
http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_za...NY&ref=&se=&doby=&city=&name_style=1&tm=&tmr=
And locals, a little help..If MP lives in Queens, how likely is it that he doesn't "know the area" of the cvs? [/I]
Being from Flushing, Queens, it is very unlikely that he knew this area well. Suffolk County is VERY different from Queens. But if he had a GPS, he could have gotten there and back very easily. Maybe he just didn't trust SG.
“The Star-Ledger retraced Gilbert’s path, walking in the dark and using a color-coded map provided by a neighbor who claims to have helped local Suffolk County police with the investigation. The neighbor requested anonymity for fear of compromising the case.”
Who? CPH???!!
No, not CPH. My guess would be JC or EC on Anchor.
“When he asked what was wrong, Gilbert just stared at him, he said, remembering that she was wearing a light-colored tank top. He said he dialed 911 on his landline, just steps away, and told her to sit in a chair. But Gilbert bolted for the door, he said, and took off down Sandy Drive, a short, curving road that intersects The Fairway.”
SG ran down Sandy Drive? Sandy Drive doesn’t show on the google map, but I googled it and see on block?shopper that there is a Sandy Dr, but where exactly? Does anyone have a better detailed map of Oak Beach than Google that shows this road? TIA.
Sandy Drive is the same street as Galley East St. Here is a good link to this info:
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/27-Sandy-Dr-Oak-Beach-NY-11702/2146817669_zpid/
“Instead of running out of the community and toward Ocean Parkway, she turned onto a road called Anchor Way, which led her past the group mailboxes and deeper into the neighborhood, toward the water.”
So, from Sandy Drive to Anchor Way?? I don't get it.
Yes, she ran down Galley East (Sandy Drive) and then ran back to GC's house and hid under the boat and then ran towards the gatehouse and turned south down Anchor to EC's house.
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“Pak said he left around 6 a.m., after searching from "pitch black to sunny dawn" and never saw the police.”
IMO, this confirms that MP never spoke or waited for the police that night. I wonder if any neighbors, maybe Gus C, could verify that MP waited that long
“Brewer, the john, said he didn’t realize Gilbert was missing, or that she had run through the neighborhood, until he got a call in the days after. Pak, the driver, and Diaz, the boyfriend, dialed him on a three-way call to discuss what happened.”
IMO, Brewer is lying here. I’m sure JB knew that the woman that he hired that just left his house after calling the police from his house did not just quietly get in the driver's car and go home. He knew she took off running and he must have heard her screaming. Wouldn't he want to make sure, looking out his window, or however, that they left the area after the commotion at his house? It was likely the talk of the town there the next morning too. He knew what was going on.
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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/06/jersey_city_prostitute_still_m.html
I don't think JB is lying here. He didn't fit in down in Oak Beach and I don't believe he had any friends down there (other than his supplier). I think he thought that SG got directly into MP's SUV or MP chased her down and eventually persuaded her to get in so they could go home. I don't think JB knew that SG went missing until MP and the boyfriend called him 3 days later.