I don't believe they have been covering up for anyone.narlacat said:Thanks Shiloh.
Why would the R's cover up the death of their daughter for these people you mention, disgruntled employees etc?
BlueCrab said:Holdontoyourhat,
I agree there had to be a reason for BOTH ends of the paintbrush handle to be broken or whittled off. The first break, of course, was to remove the bristled part of the paintbrush from the wooden handle. The missing other end is what bothers me.
BlueCrab
The R's not covering up is correct. Very shrewd intruders is IMO correct. Pineapple in the basement, also IMO correct. You seem to have many of the answers, Shiloh.shiloh said:I don't believe they have been covering up for anyone.
In trying to recall what I did today, I can tell you what I have done, but I certainly wouldn't be able to recall accurately the order in which I had done many things. I honestly don't know whether I came into this room first, or fed the cat, or went out and got the paper, or whether I had opened this drawer or turned on that light or whether that light was already on. And then if I were to give a statement, and then remember more later about it, or if it had been understood incorrectly by the person taking the statement, it could be construed that I had been lying or am involved in a coverup.
And as far as the pineapple and other items on the table, I believe that these were very shrewd intruders who had set that up so that it would be obvious to the police that the Ramseys were lying about the events of the previous night. And yes, I do feel that she was force fed pineapple, but probably down in the basement. Call me gullible.
This scenario explains all the evidence. But a coverup for Burke or a JDI or PDI theory does not adequately explain the gun fire at Detective Whitson's residence and the other attacks.
Flame away.
Maybe shiloh and HOTYH did it. How else would they know so much about what had actually happened? I'm adding them both to my suspect list this very moment.Holdontoyourhat said:The R's not covering up is correct. Very shrewd intruders is IMO correct. Pineapple in the basement, also IMO correct. You seem to have many of the answers, Shiloh.
Thanks shilo, although it doesn't look broken either. There is brush exactly like that style, only white handled, that is not broken either. They are just short handled.shiloh said:Toltec: I agree. And I think that would be especially difficult for a scrawny 9-yr-old.
Seeker: Here's a better photo. http://www.acandyrose.com/179paint-tote.jpg
Hi Rupert. People who murder will often take something from the crime scene as a momento or souvenir (often called trophies) which they use to relive the event over and over in their minds.Rupert said:Why would a perp not take the brush part as well for a souvenir? - Again, sounds like sloppy staging to me (except for the fact that there are no fingerprints).
Do you see any other broken paint brush ends in that tote bag?
Do you have a link to a site where clearer photos are available? Or is this just something you have seen in the past?Holdontoyourhat said:If I wanted to modify a paintbrush into a medieval weapon, with sharp points on the ends to repel attempts to dislodge it from my hands, I wouldn't break it. I'd whittle it.
Breaking goes with the grain, which is unpredictable. Most here seem to have only seen the one photo of the paintbrush, but there are more photos, that show the paintbrush with both its sharpened ends. Since the sharpened ends don't seem to go with the grain, I'd say it was whittled.
Here's the photo we've all seen:shiloh said:Do you have a link to a site where clearer photos are available? Or is this just something you have seen in the past?
Looks like a dry old paint brush handle that snapped easily when broken during a sloppy staging. One of those things that make me slide off the fence into the no intruder yard. Beleive me, I've tried hard to find an intruder.Holdontoyourhat said:Here's the photo we've all seen:
http://www.acandyrose.com/garrote3.jpg
Here's the opposite side of the paintbrush:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/notorious_murders/famous/ramsey/5a.jpg
The opposite end is worked, but it doesn't seem to be as sharp in this photo. Its safe to assume the perp intended the paintbrush to be used as a combination weapon, due to the fact that the ends weren't just fabricated, they were fabricated sharp.
A sloppy staging, huh? Why did the sloppy stager break the handle? To make it more suitable or more manageable? To make it more foreign-faction weapon-like?Rupert said:Looks like a dry old paint brush handle that snapped easily when broken during a sloppy staging. One of those things that make me slide off the fence into the no intruder yard. Beleive me, I've tried hard to find an intruder.
Holdontoyourhat said:A sloppy staging, huh? Why did the sloppy stager break the handle? To make it more suitable or more manageable? To make it more foreign-faction weapon-like?
What really happened: The intruder used the sharp garrote handle as an additional weapon, to further threaten and control JBR. In fact, the modified paintbrush and both ligatures worked together as an elaborate weapon.
If it was staging, why would the ligatures have all the right knots in all the right places? Why would this elaborate combination weapon, obviously capable of restraining, quiet control, coersion, and even murder, not be given any role in a murder where the victim was obviously restrained, kept quiet, coerced, and murdered?
If there was staging, it didn't involve the garrote or second ligature because they were fully functional and the crime scene photos prove it.
The sloppy staging idea is ruled out.
You were present, you are recounting from experience? I find your reasoning sloppy.What really happened: The intruder used the sharp garrote handle as an additional weapon, to further threaten and control JBR. In fact, the modified paintbrush and both ligatures worked together as an elaborate weapon.
:dance:UKGuy said:You were present, you are recounting from experience? I find your reasoning sloppy.
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Please explain the hemmorhage that starts from the cord, if she were dead at the time?UKGuy said:JonBenet may have been dead when the garrote/stick was applied,...
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The idea that a foreign faction broke in and assaulted JonBenet in her own home and used items from the house to kill her and then write a ransom note but not bother to take the person they are ransoming with them is way out in left field.Holdontoyourhat said:Please explain, using vastly superior reasoning abilities, the hemmorhage that starts from the cord, if she were dead at the time?
I mean, wouldn't that be totally unprecedented in crime? Placing a garrote over a dead person? That idea is way out in left field.