GUILTY ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Tammy Daybell *Arrests* #77

Here's what I wonder, okay...was there ever a moment in space and time where Lori and Chad ever spoke of what they were doing in real terms? without the cloak and benefit of say the zombie scale or some other made up reasoning for the things that went down?...under the covers in darkness did they ever laugh about getting over on all these "idiots" following their made up BS?. ...or did they just play this stupid game to the hilt..even with each other....? I think they both knew exactly what they were doing and were completely different people behind closed doors , away from the others..

they knew it was wrong too and I hope they put Chad to death. He deserves it...and I hope Lori get's hers in AZ!
 
Am I the only one that thinks it a bit odd for parents to lose a child named Laura and name their next one Lori?
It was common in the past, when it was more common to lose a baby or young child, to use the same name for a child born later. I haven't encountered that tradition in current times, though.

Given that LDS are really into ancestry, perhaps there is meaning to using the same name? idk.

jmo
 
Sorry, I posted goofy snd it’s too late to fix it. Rhus was suppised to bebin response to the sleuth who spied what they thought might a “silicone” wedding ring like the Lori bought for her wedding to Chad before Tammy was murdered.
Let those amongst us who are without sin….LOL
 
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1 Lori is a classic psychopathic narcissist. As such, she is ALWAYS going to be positive she must be right, she will always think the world revolves around her and her glory, and when she is caught doing wrong, she must by any means (try to) manage the world's perception so they can see her actions and her person have all been good.

2 The overwhelming self-focus obviously is a skewed sense of reality, but it's more a case of evil -- the idea that the world revolves around you is sin, as you essentially have made yourself "god" where everyone's purpose is to see you for how great you are.

3 In regards to her statement in court today, when you listen to it closely and boil it down, it said 2 things: (a) I have always done the right thing and been the perfect person, if you only knew, and (b) the people that are dead are all better off (!) as a result, so it's actually a favor to them that they were made dead.

Her attorney's desire that she should be able to counsel others, while he intended that to make her look better, when taken in conjunction with her own mindset and worldview, what a scary and abhorrent proposal!

4 Based on HER WORDS, no one needs to figure out if she's delusional, or faking, when it comes time to sentence her -- all that matters is to understand by her own words that she sees it as a good thing to kill innocent people AND she sees what she did (and does) as always justified. That means she is a danger to anyone and everyone she ever will encounter, because on a whim she could decide they (or you, or your loved ones) would be better off to be made dead.

The sentence for her to never be able to be free (x5) was appropriate, although these sort of crimes (hacking your own child to death, smothering another via duct tape to kill them, and aiding in the murder of a romantic rival who is in your way) are actually what the DP was made for. She has clearly forfeited her right to live. Too bad she can't be sent on to receive her fate that awaits later. There is no value in her still living here, where every day she might be able to spread her own evil thinking to others - or decide someone else is inconvenient and needs to be sent on ahead. That's who she is.

Just my 2c.
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TRANSCRIPT OF LORI VALLOW'S STATEMENT AT HER SENTENCING 31 JUL 2023:

I would like to start by quoting John from the New Testament in the Bible. In John, chapter eight, verse seven, Jesus says, "ye that is without sin among you, let him cast-- first cast a stone at her. Then in verse fifteen, Jesus says, "ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. And yet if I judge, my judgment is true."

Jesus knows me, and Jesus understand me. I mourn with all of you who mourn my children and Tammy. Jesus Christ knows the truth of what happened here. Jesus Christ knows that no one was murdered in this case. Accidental deaths happen. Suicides happen. Fatal side effects from medications happen.

I have a different perspective in life, because in 2002, when I was pregnant with Tylee, I died in the hospital while in labor with her. They tried to stop my labor. They put me on the table and put something in my IV and I felt my spirit falling to the floor. I was standing near my pregnant body watching the doctors trying to revive me, which took them a few minutes. In that time, my sister Stacy was standing to my left. I turned to hug her and was surprised that her spirit was as tangible as a physical body, because I knew I was in spirit and she was in spirit. She said she needed to show me some things, and we went to heaven. I later returned to my body. Because of this experience, I have access to heaven and the spirit world.

Since then, I have had many communications from people now living in heaven, including my children Tylee Ashland and Joshua Jackson, my sisters Stacy and Lolly, my aunts and uncles and my grandparents. I have had many communications with Jesus Christ, the savior of this world, and our Heavenly Parents. I've had many angelic visitors have come and communicated with me and even manifested themselves to me.

Because of these communications, I know for a fact that my children are happy and busy in the spirit world. Because of my communications with my friend Tammy Daybell, I know that she is also very happy and extremely busy. I have always mourned the loss of my loved ones, and I have lost many in this mortal world. However, I know more than most people know: Where they are now and what they're doing. I know how wonderful heaven is and I'm homesick for it every single day. I know we all lived in heaven before we were born on Earth and we were all adult spirits in the heavenly realm. We chose to come to earth as mortals. Heaven is more wonderful than you can possibly imagine. I do not fear death, but I look forward to it.

I did not want to return to my body when I was out of it, even though my son Colby, who I adored more than anything was only six years old at the time and I was about to give birth to this new baby girl that I wanted so badly. I was a young mother, and you would think I wouldn't want to leave my children, but as I stood in heaven I did not want to go back. I thought they would be fine without me, because I was peaceful and I was happy and I was home. But then I was told by Jesus that I needed to go back and complete things that I had covenanted or promised to do before I was born. This caused me a lot of distress because I knew heaven was my real home, and I only wanted to be there. I was free from pain -- emotional and physical -- but then I was shown how I would help my children and others in the future, so ultimately I did agree to go back to my body.

Tylee has visited me. She is happy and very busy. Tylee is free now from all the pains of her life. Tylee suffered horrible physical pain her whole life. I sat with Tylee in the hospital year after year after year while she screamed in pain when the morphine wasn't even enough to take away the pain of her pancreatitis. I sat there while she cried and I held back her hair while she threw up, and I am the only person on this Earth who knows how much Tylee suffered in her life. She had pain every single day. She never felt good. Her body did not work right, and I don't know if that was complications from me dying while she was being born or something else, but she had a very difficult life. She was sexually abused by her own biological father since she was three years old, and she was forced by family court to go visit him for ten years against her will. I fought for her in court. I protected her with my whole life. I tried to protect her. I worried about her every single day. Tylee had to get her GED because she couldn't go to school every day because she never felt good. She felt sick. Nobody knows this because Tylee, like myself, tries to put on a good front, tries to be a happy person, tries to have hope in life, tries to know that she's here for a purpose and that she has an eternal purpose to be on this earth, but I never stopped worrying aout her. One of the times Tylee came to me as a spirit after she died, she said-- she commanded me and she said to me "Stop worrying, Mom. We are fine." She knows how I worry and how I miss her.

The first time JJ visited me after he passed away, he put his arm around me, and he said to me, "You didn't do anything wrong, Mom. I love you, and I know you loved me every minute of my life." JJ -- Joshua Jackson -- was an adult spirit, and he was very, very tall when he put his arm around me. He is busy. He is engaged. He has jobs that he does there, and he is so happy where he is. His life was short, but JJ's life was meaningful. JJ was a wonderful person and touched the lives of everyone, and I adored him every minute of his life.

My eternal friend Tammy Daybell has visited me on several occasions. She came to bring me peace and comfort, and I know that she is extremely busy helping her family, especially her children and grandchildren, and I have a great love for Tammy.

My beautiful children Tylee Ashland and Joshua Jackson rest safely this day in the arms of Jesus. My wonderful friend Tammy Daybell rests safely this day in the arms of Jesus. And I look forward to the day when we are reunited and I, too, will rest with them in the arms of my Jesus.



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Thank you @wnk
You are not only awesome at timelines, but transcripts too !!!
 
Lori will be extradited to Arizona to face the charges of murdering Charles and the attempted murder of Brandon, right?
If found guilty there too, where will she be placed in prison...Idaho or Arizona?

I would so love her to be roomies with Jodi Arias. Imagine that !
BBM
Good Lord !!

I can only imagine the "meetings" and "Portals" happening there.
UGH o_O :D
 
The case # above listed by all the tweets - is no longer on the Arizona court site. i just tried to see if there was something new - and POOF - it is gone...
Thank you my Latvian friend. I have to admit, I usually follow the crazies in these trials... and over the last few years I'm still on that same "crazy train." o_O Some might question WHY? My response is WHY NOT? Guess I'm a glutton for punishment! Good seeing you.
 
I think they both knew exactly what they were doing and were completely different people behind closed doors , away from the others..
SBM. If we go by their text exchanges, they talk about death percentages, evils spirits possessing their relatives, etc., which provided justification. Whether they believed it is a different matter, but they didn't drop the facade in front of each other. It was part of their fantasy. Closer to the murders they were probably discussing practical aspects and logistics, but perhaps not in text form or those messages couldn't be retrieved.
 
SBM. If we go by their text exchanges, they talk about death percentages, evils spirits possessing their relatives, etc., which provided justification. Whether they believed it is a different matter, but they didn't drop the facade in front of each other. It was part of their fantasy. Closer to the murders they were probably discussing practical aspects and logistics, but perhaps not in text form or those messages couldn't be retrieved.

I think it was all code. in case they got caught or were suspected. It was code talk and they both knew it..and they knew what they were doing was wrong...and no one was being told to do these things by Moroni or Angels or whatever visitations and portals they were spinning for their fiction. mOO
 
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