CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #47 *ARREST*

[ilovechili]

I wonder if because of Patrick's rage CPS wouldn't allow either to take the baby immediately home. Patrick then spun this sad situation into the lie he told others that "Kelsey left the hospital without the baby."
MOO

I would not doubt it, he is a real "winner". Not. Here she was off of months of pregnancy and delivering early and has to deal with his b.s. It had to be devastating.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Reading it, I had the impression that the older guy was being sarcastic. PF's asking questions about transactions/timelines, then asks about the car carrier and child. Prior to that, there was no reason for the bank clerk to think it was about anything other than perhaps someone using his card.

But after PF asks if Baby K was visible, the other guy basically says "Yo, dummy, why don't you just connect the dots for her and tell her it's about that missing mother, the mother of that baby you just asked about".

Dumb dumb dumb.

I’m trying to understand why he would go back to the bank? Was he trying to gather documentation for his alibi? Or hoping they would NOT have the video, thus he could say he wasn’t ever in the area?

 

[ab01]

Reading it, I had the impression that the older guy was being sarcastic. PF's asking questions about transactions/timelines, then asks about the car carrier and child. Prior to that, there was no reason for the bank clerk to think it was about anything other than perhaps someone using his card.

But after PF asks if Baby K was visible, the other guy basically says "Yo, dummy, why don't you just connect the dots for her and tell her it's about that missing mother, the mother of that baby you just asked about".

Dumb dumb dumb.

Yah IDK the way its written is that after they got their information, The gentleman with PF says forget we were ever here....MOO

ETA: The Unknown male said, "forget about us being here" and then they left.

 

[mustloveco]

What is this referencing? Who is Wendy?

The note that PF wrote... I guess it didn't quote the message. I was thinking it looked
Like "Wendy" or "Windi"?

 

[acutename]

Interesting info here if you follow PF's phone locations.
PF travelled to Slagle's home in Guffey on 11/22 late at night,
again on 11/23 and again on 11/24.
Anyone know offhand the time of burn fire?
He sure does go to Mr. Slagle's a lot and it's not right around the corner but 45 min. from PF's home. Mr. Slagle, IMO,
knows a lot about what happened.
see phone logs pgs. 17-19
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf

the fire, as per KK, started between 5 and 6, I think- already dark in CO in nov

 

[ab01]

I’m trying to understand why he would go back to the bank? Was he trying to gather documentation for his alibi? Or hoping they would NOT have the video, thus he could say he wasn’t ever in the area?

I think he was hoping Baby K and the carrier would not be visible on the footage. He got bad news and then really bad news now bc the ENT bank clerk remembered them. MOO

 

[Gardenista]

@Gardenista, this is what I was trying to remember earlier.

Patrick Frazee's blow up after daughter's birth prompted call to Social Services, search documents show
Prosecutors called Sheila Frazee to the stand at a prior hearing for Frazee, 32, but a judge ruled that she didn't have to testify after her attorney indicated she would assert her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

During that hearing, El Paso County District Attorney Dan May said he wanted to question Sheila Frazee about a witness' report that she saw her son burning evidence on their Florissant-area ranch.

TY! So I guess the witness was KK.

I don't remember reading this at the time and I don't think Lance tweeted it - I am happy to put this to rest. It's been bugging me.

 

[Hatfield]

Yah IDK the way its written is that after they got their information, The gentleman with PF says forget we were ever here....MOO

The clerk would have likely forgotten they were even there until they told them to forget they were ever there. LOL

 

[acutename]

He knows more than everyone. After all, this father figure knows Patrick already for 35 years, although PF is born on Nov 1st, 1988.

oooo... who is/was PF's father?

 

[acutename]

I'm positive it's Sean but I still can't make out the 4th name. Somebody Clarke?
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is it Clint? or his wife?

 

[ilovechili]

The verizon map pictured on page 11 in https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-118 Search Warrant.pdf has the phone transmitting around 4:24pm from KB's tower; and it's stated that PF called a 719 (colorado) number at 4:24pm (and an Idaho number at the same time). Exactly the same time the McCorkle FB post came out. This is getting creepier.

I noticed that too. Even if the FB post is not SF, it is uncanny with the timing and the substance of the "post".

 

[GHgal]

Where did the bags come from? I read 4 teeth in a small envelope and one held separately. Were they found in bags then placed in evidence envelopes?
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MOO

@PommyMommy Do you think the tooth that was not part of the group of 4 was perhaps given to him from KK? Maybe it was tooth in the vent that he referenced when he provided instructions for clean up, which is why it was separated? He could have realized that KB was missing 5 teeth and only collected 4 prior to leaving for his Thanksgiving dinner.

 

[ab01]

The clerk would have likely forgotten they were even there until they told them to forget they were ever there. LOL

I know right.... he could have even said, hey I think I dropped my wallet on the ground while using the atm on 11/22 can we see video to see if I did and if somebody picked it up. Such an idiot

 

[acutename]

Sincerely, what are the chances?

the F surname is fairly common in CO

 

[The Saint]

Yah IDK the way its written is that after they got their information, The gentleman with PF says forget we were ever here....MOO

ETA: The Unknown male said, "forget about us being here" and then they left.

The unknown male was most likely "father figure" RS of Guffey.
Seems that KKL isn't the only one with incriminating behavior.
imo

 

[Eleanor Rigby]

If she had used the kit and had the results, it is possible PF took it so baby K would have ancestry history from her moms side when she was older. Hard to imagine him having a kind thought like that but it is possible. I have never heard of a dna ancestry kit being used to prove paternity.

In my experience, you don't get the kit back. You get your results online in an Ancestry.com account you set up when you activate your kit. MOO.

 

[Gardenista]

'Baby Tooth Monster Dolls' Are Freaking Out the Internet -- but It's Not What People Think

 

[The Saint]

wonder if his shoes showed anything ....and he has a lot of gray shirts

17 gray shirts? I'm not sure that even Mark Zuckerburg owns that many.
imo

 

[acutename]

@PommyMommy Do you think the tooth that was not part of the group of 4 was perhaps given to him from KK? Maybe it was tooth in the vent that he referenced when he provided instructions for clean up, which is why it was separated? He could have realized that KB was missing 5 teeth and only collected 4 prior to leaving for his Thanksgiving dinner.

remember he says: "you do not know how hard it was for me to go to Thanksgiving dinner?" it is not because he killed some one, his daughter's Mom, it is because he is missing an avulsed tooth.... (what upsets killers most)

 

[raja]

My thought is the DNA was for baby K and her mom was checking to see if PF was in fact the baby's father. Just a thought MOO