CA - 2-month old baby found dead in hot car - June 20, 2024

[Trebor5591]

It seems so. But what do you think that could be? Could it be that the family member who found the baby was for some reason supposed to be watching her?

Or are you thinking along the lines of drug use or intoxication?

My guess is on drug use or intoxication. :-(

 

[SMK777]

My guess is on drug use or intoxication. :-(

I’m wondering though why no charges have been filed.

 

[MsMarple]

It’s frustrating that we’ve not had any updates from LE yet. All we know so far is:

The girl’s family told investigators that they had arrived home, on Settle Road near Dalehurst Road, about 3 p.m. June 12, and the child was found about nine hours later, Nguyen said.

2-month-old California baby who died after being left alone in hot car ID’d

Diana Sofia Aleman Roman was left inside a car for about nine hours after her family returned to their home on Settle Road near Dalehurst Road, sheriff’s officials said

www.mercurynews.com

No mention of date nights, babysitters or leaving the house again that afternoon/evening.

Of course any of that could be the case, as could anything else that we’ve not considered. I’m hard pressed to either find fault with the parents or write this off as yet another case of Forgotten Baby Syndrome without more information.

Having raised three kids in South Florida I can’t imagine forgetting a two month old in a car for over 9 hours. I was always busy feeding, changing, bathing and entertaining my infants so all I can think of is there’s something LE hasn’t shared that would explain why this little girl was forgotten.

Hard as it is I’ll try to keep an open mind until then. I’ll note that neither dad has been charged with a crime.
MOO

 

[ChatteringBirds]

There must be major information not being reported. But I can't see two parents both being there the whole time after 3:00 pm, awake the whole time, and both just forgetting the baby, so there must be more to it. I wonder if more will be reported.

 

[SMK777]

There must be major information not being reported. But I can't see two parents both being there the whole time after 3:00 pm, awake the whole time, and both just forgetting the baby, so there must be more to it. I wonder if more will be reported.

Agreed: I’ve checked for updates several times but so far, nothing.

 

[SMK777]

It’s frustrating that we’ve not had any updates from LE yet. All we know so far is:

The girl’s family told investigators that they had arrived home, on Settle Road near Dalehurst Road, about 3 p.m. June 12, and the child was found about nine hours later, Nguyen said.

2-month-old California baby who died after being left alone in hot car ID’d

Diana Sofia Aleman Roman was left inside a car for about nine hours after her family returned to their home on Settle Road near Dalehurst Road, sheriff’s officials said

www.mercurynews.com

No mention of date nights, babysitters or leaving the house again that afternoon/evening.

Of course any of that could be the case, as could anything else that we’ve not considered. I’m hard pressed to either find fault with the parents or write this off as yet another case of Forgotten Baby Syndrome without more information.

Having raised three kids in South Florida I can’t imagine forgetting a two month old in a car for over 9 hours. I was always busy feeding, changing, bathing and entertaining my infants so all I can think of is there’s something LE hasn’t shared that would explain why this little girl was forgotten.

Hard as it is I’ll try to keep an open mind until then. I’ll note that neither dad has been charged with a crime.
MOO

Yes, this is why I’ve always felt that either a. The 2 dads believed she was somewhere else (supposed to be dropped somewhere but someone forgot). OR b. that someone else was supposed to be babysitting and somehow got things mixed up.

True, the 2 dads have not been charged, but then again neither has anyone else. Very difficult to figure this out when there’s been no updates and no real information to work with.

 

[Lilibet]

No excuse in this case as far as I'm concerned.

Just bouncing off your post to repost this article in the Washington Post from several years ago explaining how this can literally happen to anyone. It’s well worth reading, even though it’s quite distressing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/fatal-distraction-forgetting-a-child-in-thebackseat-of-a-car-is-a-horrifying-mistake-is-it-a-crime/2014/06/16/8ae0fe3a-f580-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html

 

[Shamrock1]

Just bouncing off your post to repost this article in the Washington Post from several years ago explaining how this can literally happen to anyone. It’s well worth reading, even though it’s quite distressing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/fatal-distraction-forgetting-a-child-in-thebackseat-of-a-car-is-a-horrifying-mistake-is-it-a-crime/2014/06/16/8ae0fe3a-f580-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html

To add, health care professionals and even pediatricians have lost children this way. One example of a pediatrician: Infant found dead in car

 

[SMK777]

To add, health care professionals and even pediatricians have lost children this way. One example of a pediatrician: Infant found dead in car

Yes, it happens to doctors and nurses and professors. It is most definitely not confined to the neglectful addict as some would like to think.

I remember reading that article from the Washington Post and there was this section about a prominent scholar who also forgot his 10 month old baby in the car:

Warschauer is a Fulbright scholar, specializing in the use of laptops to spread literacy to children. In the summer of 2003, he returned to his office from lunch to find a crowd surrounding a car in the parking lot. Police had smashed the window open with a crowbar. Only as he got closer did Warschauer realize it was his car. That was his first clue that he’d forgotten to drop his 10-month-old son, Mikey, at day care that morning. Mikey was dead.
Warschauer wasn’t charged with a crime, but for months afterward he contemplated suicide. Gradually, he says, the urge subsided, if not the grief and guilt.
“We lack a term for what this is,” Warschauer says. And also, he says, we need an understanding of why it happens to the people it happens to.

 

[nao]

Moo...
Yea but they sure do treat people by financial and public standing....moo

 

[SMK777]

Moo...
Yea but they sure do treat people by financial and public standing....moo

Sadly, yes.

 

[mickey2942]

Moo...
Yea but they sure do treat people by financial and public standing....moo

Yes. A single mother who left her baby in the car, goes partying with her friends, gets condemned. A married man, who left the baby in the car, and went to work, usually gets a pass. Aside from the anomaly of Harris, who was probably charged based on bias against his cheating on his spouse.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Aside from the anomaly of Harris, who was probably charged based on bias against his cheating on his spouse.

That case had much more to it, though. Much more, IMO.

 

[LadyL]

This may be a bit OT, but my husband is elderly, and likes to get out, just for a ride and stay in the car, I always wonder if I could get cited for that...

presumably he can get out of the car?
unlike babies and pets

 

[LadyL]

Yes. A single mother who left her baby in the car, goes partying with her friends, gets condemned. A married man, who left the baby in the car, and went to work, usually gets a pass. Aside from the anomaly of Harris, who was probably charged based on bias against his cheating on his spouse.

well yeah, someone who leaves their baby in a car purposely to go party deserves to be condemned
someone who accidentally forgets their child is in the car while they go to work is a much different situation

 

[mickey2942]

presumably he can get out of the car?
unlike babies and pets

Actually, as long as they don't know, he really can't. But he likes to go on car rides. And sit in the car, listening to his talking book player. Then, he falls asleep. But, the windows are always open. He doesn't want to go in the store, just rides in the car. I am never very long though. And fortunately, we don't live someplace super hot.

I just worry, someday, someone will think I just left him in the car.

 

[SMK777]

Actually, as long as they don't know, he really can't. But he likes to go on car rides. And sit in the car, listening to his talking book player. Then, he falls asleep. But, the windows are always open. He doesn't want to go in the store, just rides in the car. I am never very long though. And fortunately, we don't live someplace super hot.

I just worry, someday, someone will think I just left him in the car.

Adults often choose to stay in the car while someone shops. So long as he can call or text you if he needs you, and can open windows, or maybe turn on the AC with a key, that’s absolutely not the same as leaving infants, children, and pets unattended. My elderly mother used to sleep in the car while I shopped with my son. She didn’t want to come in.

 

[DoctorRose]

This may be a bit OT, but my husband is elderly, and likes to get out, just for a ride and stay in the car, I always wonder if I could get cited for that...

As long as he’s able to get himself out or open a window or whatever then no. If he’s either mentally or physically incapable of that then as someone else has said make sure he doesn’t overheat. He’s an adult so it just depends I guess whether he relies on you for care or is generally independent.

 

[mickey2942]

Adults often choose to stay in the car while someone shops. So long as he can call or text you if he needs you, and can open windows, or maybe turn on the AC with a key, that’s absolutely not the same as leaving infants, children, and pets unattended. My elderly mother used to sleep in the car while I shopped with my son. She didn’t want to come in.

Thanks. I just worry about it. Of course, he is not a child or a pet.

My friend works for AAA, anyone can call them to unlock a car door when there is a heartbeat in the car, locked in. Everything is dropped, and that call is a priority to get a provider there ASAP to open up the car.

She is surprised how many people do lock pets and children in the car, of course, in this case, the caregiver is aware, and calls AAA usually panicked.

It is a free service, anyone can call, if they see a baby or animal locked in a car.

 

[DoctorRose]

Actually, as long as they don't know, he really can't. But he likes to go on car rides. And sit in the car, listening to his talking book player. Then, he falls asleep. But, the windows are always open. He doesn't want to go in the store, just rides in the car. I am never very long though. And fortunately, we don't live someplace super hot.

I just worry, someday, someone will think I just left him in the car.

I think in this case since the windows are open it’s okay. Just my opinion. I wouldn’t want to take away the joys of car rides and audio books from him. I’m only 30 but I’m an old soul and I’m sitting here thinking that sounds super nice lol.