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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    The point is simply this - whatever the truth ultimately turns out to be, no one should feel badly about themselves if their beliefs turn out to have been based on hoax - because successful hoaxers know how to push the buttons of their target audience and it is our caring and compassion (not...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    This posting relates to questions such as; what is the truth about Paul Bonacci's relationship to this case?, is it really true that Noreen Gosch was visited by her son as an adult? and, has Noreen Gosch been victimized by hoaxers? but I'm not going to offer answers to those questions...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    Hi Theresa! Perhaps you might be able to clarify something. Do you know if PI Sam Soda was a resident of Omaha, Nebraska as one of Shadow's article reprints suggests, or a resident of Des Moines, Iowa as Noreen Gosch has implied?
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    I have repeatedly stated that I'm quite aware that pedophile rings are a historical reality, but that I'm skeptical of the allegations about such a thing in this case. Please stop accusing me of denying the existence of pedophile rings altogether.
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    You can choose to believe whatever you wish, but your belief cannot change facts. The difference between my having casually mentioned here that I was victimized by child pornographers, and Bonacci's claims of being victimized, is that my statement was not made in the context of pointing...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    As for this: "The fact that the cops didn't do more investigation early on is very suspicious to me....despite what one poster has stated, police were not on a "wild-goose chase." They weren't on any chase at all. And without private investigators, we have half the information we have." You...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    Yes, that little shriek offstage was me :) Let's bury the myth of poor misunderstood angel Paul Bonacci once and for good. In the first place, this: "He was thoroughly examined by three different qualified psychiatrists. Each one of them said that Bonacci was being truthful". is completely...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    "Sam Soda gave up Sykora to divert attention away from the true abductors....Sykora was set up to go down as part of the "cover-up." An interesting speculation, but if that were true why wouldn't Sykora simply rat them all out? That's one of the problems with theories of very complex...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    No, Emilio has never been identified, yes he was part of Bonacci's story. I agree its questionable whether he ever existed.
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    "If the aforementioned individual's claim is true (and I'm still trying to track that bit down), then imho, it is quite possible that Bonacci's account is, in part, true. That he, along with Soda, Sykora & GPB, abducted Johnny." You are making my point for me. Bonacci's story isn't about and...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    "And same said individual is alleged to have told Ms. Gosch that Eugene Martin was targeted to be abducted." Who said this? Reference, please? Noreen alleges that she was warned that a kidnapping would occur in a certain time frame - I don't recall her claiming that anyone told her Eugene...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    "So, what, exactly, was going on? How about smoke and mirrors? How about some diversions to get people (specifically, Noreen, who has been very vocal about missing kids) barking up the wrong tree?" I totally agree! But, what tree is someone trying to get her to bark up? Apparently, the tree of...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    As previously noted, a similar problem exists with Bonacci's statement about Sam Soda ( on top of the fact that Bonacci is himself a convicted child molestor & perjurer) - Johnny Gosch was never alone delivering his papers except for the day that he went missing. Therefore, he seems unlikely to...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    Do we know that Sykora was never arrested or convicted? The article you posted only says that, at that time, they had no victim statements to proceed from. A good question is - who was Sam Soda working for? If he's a private investigator, he's probably not doing this work for free! In the...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    Much appreciated, Shadow! Keep 'em coming.
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    Ok. Thanks for the clarification. Wait, and see, I guess.
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    I'm more concerned that Noreen Gosch might have become "a dupe" to right-wing weirdos who believe the Federal government of the U.S. should be eliminated by force so that their private 'armies' can take control of individual states.
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    No, I remembered that you had said: "Even so, that I know of, that angle has been explored by the FBI." but I also remembered Ladydragon correcting her assumption that Noreen Gosch had brought GPB to the attention of the FBI a long time ago. I trust you. If you are saying that you know...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    How about a letter to law enforcement, from one of us, raising the possibility that the recently released (yes?) GPB could be the Paul Bishop that the mother of missing boy Johnny Gosch's mother believes came into her life 6 months after his disappearance, and was in Des Moines area when Eugene...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #3

    Whether it affected NG's credibility or not, it would be very important evidence - either about the Martin kidnapping or about hoaxes being perpetrated against the families of victims. I have tapes I made from the late 1970s that are fine. LBJ's whitehouse recordings are in great shape...

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