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  1. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #37

    I respect your opinion and I agree that forensic protocols have been put in place. It may be that this was just a short period of time that these photos were taken (ie: 15 min) just after they had removed the orange tarp and were turning their focus back to photographing the hole it came from...
  2. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #37

    That is what I believe. From my minds eye - you could literally pick that orange tarp up and place the puzzle piece right back in the hole in the ground because the shape fits (with the exception of the edges of the orange may be pulled out a bit more after removal from the ground. Yes - I...
  3. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #37

    Tylee was 5 foot tall. The hole in the ground appears to be silo silhouette of someone in the fetal position. Look at the officer standing nearby - that person could almost curl up in that hole. Someone reported JJ's grandparents visited the site yesterday. They didn't have the fly over ban...
  4. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    Actually the judge only referenced "egregious" on one of the sets of remains. I think a few of us believe only one of the children's bodies was defiled in some way. I personally believe (just based upon google maps vs. multiple aerial views yesterday) that 1 body was burned in the old junk...
  5. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    Proof that he was never in an Upwardly mobile career. I think he only made lateral moves in his employment since high school (ie: cemetery sexton title remained on the resume only the addresses changed). Unless you count the fiction . . . Which brings up another question - does Deseret books...
  6. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    My kids and I would often make references to that movie when they were growing up (in fact we still do). Lots of good moral lessons - including learning that putting all your trust and faith in someone or something without actually seeing it with your own eyes, can really hurt your progress in...
  7. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    Sadly, I think his family members are coming that conclusion tonight too. Seriously, he is not the man that he portrayed to everyone - including his friends, neighbors and family. Lori is not the loving Mom she portrayed to everyone either. Probably the people that knew that most of all with...
  8. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    I love you Gardner! Always ready with a link and so organized. What would we do without you?
  9. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    OMG - it does appear to be sunken just in that exact shape of the orange tarp item and the hole in the ground they later were photographing. (at least to me) Also in this pic - you can see the area mostly undisturbed by LEO. The firepit was how they found it when they showed up at 7 am...
  10. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    I think everyone in our home could recite every single line at one time.
  11. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    That would require one or both to admit they have a dreaded "mental health condition".
  12. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    I am struggling with the whole idea of CD purchasing a motor home, seeking permits for foundation laying, water, sewer/septic, and electricity all laid up to the motor home. His kids talked him into not selling the house in October, the kids are living there with him while he can't even garner...
  13. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    Granted this is a very emotional case. There is a line in an old (family favorite) movie - The Labyrinth with David Bowie where one of the characters (Jim Henson's muppet type) says something to the effect of 'do not step in the bog of stench. don't ever step in the bog of stench, if you do...
  14. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    Welcome to WS Michael0808! Great first post! Good job on adding the "Just My Opinion" to your post so that people don't ask you for a link for facts (cuz that is kinda how we roll around here - but I am sure you picked up on that already).
  15. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    Really odd day of the month to be moving. Usually people move at the end of the month or on a weekend.
  16. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    CD & LVD are going to have a very hard time "populating" their church - given they are no longer able to proselytize to gain their 144K and both will never be allowed to care for children unsupervised again, let alone have anymore (not impossible behind bars but highly unlikely). All this work...
  17. wenwe4

    Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

    I am cognizant of my own struggle with putting myself in each of CD's and LVD's families shoes. They are just realizing how much they have been deceived. They fought very hard to support the person that they thought they knew and loved. It must be a very real struggle to let go of all of the...

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