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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    According to the Mail: The bar is owned by a French couple aged 49 and 40, who have lived in the valley for almost a decade, according to French broadcaster BFMTV citing a source close to the investigation...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    One source mentioned earlier in the thread reported that it was supposed to be an event for under-17s, although there were also people there in the 18-30 age range. Maybe the older people were employees of the bar. Corriere della Sera (Italian paper) has a story about a mother whose 16 year old...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    The BBC's live feed reports that: 8 French citizens are currently unaccounted for; and Patients as young as 15 being treated for severe, sometimes internal, burns. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c8xdxvj2qjdt I imagine that the internal burns are to the lungs due to inhaling hot gases.
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    There's almost certainly going to be a massive investigation and inquiry into this fire which should reveal a lot of information about the owner of the bar, its physical condition and how recently its interiors were updated and modernised, who was responsible for inspecting the fabric of the...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    In practice, Switzerland, like Norway, adheres to the vast majority of EU norms and regulations as part of the quid pro quo for being in the single market, Schengen and so on. The UK maintains at least an equivalent regime for licencing and inspecting entertainment premises to that in the EU.
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    UK Body of woman aged 60s or 70s pulled from the Waveney near Beccles in Suffolk - 1 Jan 2026

    Body of unidentified elderly woman is pulled from river in the Norfolk Broads - as police launch probe into discovery The body of an elderly woman has been pulled from a river in the Norfolk Broads. Suffolk Police are investigating after the unidentified woman was discovered in a New Year's...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    Indeed. Things may not be much better for the survivors. Imagine having to tell a 17-year old girl that she only has half a face and her hands don't work.
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    These are the traditional sparklers that are lit and waved about in the UK for Bonfire Night/Guy Fawkes. I'm not aware of them being used here for other events or celebrations but I may be out of date.
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    UK Devon - Two men, aged 40s and 60s, missing following traditional Boxing Day swim, 26 December 2025

    Notwithstanding the drowning of two swimmers in Devon on Boxing Day, the New Year's Day swims have taken place as usual around the UK today. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15426887/new-years-day-dip-charity.html
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    From Corriere della Sera (Italian newspaper): Secondo alcune fonti era in corso una festa riservata agli under 17. «Molti ragazzi sono usciti dal locale insanguinati, alcuni senza vestiti. Una vera carneficina», ha detto una testimone. According to some sources, a party for under-17s was...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    I was curious about the "sparklers" reported to be the cause of the fire and did some digging. Basically, they are similar to what we Brits would call a Roman Candle firework and seem to be known in the US as "wedding sparklers". They have a spike to stick them into a cake or can be taped to a...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    Sixteen Italians missing and up to 15 injured, says foreign ministry 15:34 The Italian Foreign Ministry tells the BBC 16 Italian nationals are currently missing following the fire at Le Constellation bar in Crans-Montana. A spokesperson for the ministry says between 12 and 15 others have...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    The Mail is now reporting that around 47 people were killed. I imagine that figure will rise and some of the injured die in the next few days...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    There's a really sobering demo of what a flashover looks like here: Notice how quickly the fire grows and how it funnels smoke/fumes down the corridor. I imagine that isn't too different to what may have happened in the Constellation case, with the corridor and the basement staircase acting...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    To be fair, I don't recall having seen confirmation that acoustic foam was in situ but was merely conjecturing on the basis of similar fires. Multi-floor venues like this often have a disco- or pub- type set up on one floor and a more sophisticated lounge-bar one in on another. Typically we see...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    In the updated Mail article it quotes a prosecutor who mentions a flashover. That would indeed explain why the whole ceiling caught fire so quickly. Unfortunately this means it's possible that the flames were funneled towards and then up the sole staircase which people were trying to escape up...
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    UK - Three abandoned babies (2017, 2019, 2024) full siblings found in London

    Certainly not impossible, but if that is the case, I would expect that degree of inbreeding to be reflected at least as a possibility in the kids' DNA. I suspect that the police have only ended the active search for these parents. With the children's DNA on databases, if either parent is...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    From what I can see, this is a two-floor venue. There's the street level bar area which, in the photo in the Mail, has green lighting around the main serving area. Then there's the photo of the bar area with pink lighting underneath green-lighting photo, which presumably shows the basement bar...
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    I did see a comment that although Crans-Montana is a generally up-market resort, this particular bar/club was not and attracted a younger crowd. Given that it was also in a basement, it might in reality have been a bit of a dive.
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    Switzerland - "Several dozen" dead and about 100 injured in explosion in bar in Crans-Montana, Swiss ski resort, 1 January 2026

    Another slightly different account of how the fire started: 'Waiter waving a sparkler while dancing on a colleague's shoulders' started Swiss luxury nightclub fire that killed up to 40 people and injured 100 A survivor of the blaze told French news channel BFM: ‘During the evening, a waiter...

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