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Yeah true, we don't know who initiated it. But if the relationship was so cooled off, why would she let him close to her. If she ever was in tune with her own daughter she would know that she was not comfortable around him and no reason for him to be around her.

My big question is why go ask SS to take care of MS. He did not live there anymore and lived hours away, i thought he lived with his parents again. Why not ask family. Jmo

I miss emotional impulses. Here a couple of examples. Maybe an outburst when the cops first came in why they were so late. The phone call. I would immediately take the call and answer with Maddie? No urgency to take charge in searching the area. Jmo

I think it is a very good possibility that she killed herself. And at the same time JP is an abuser and pushed her so far in a corner she could not see another way out. She looked miserable in the surveillance video buying the gun. It is beyond believe how far someone is able to go without any...

This type of stuff happens so much with suicide, it is not strange in any way. People can just engage in life until the moment of suicide. This is my experience in my work at a mental health hotline and also my personal experience. My dad killed himself and he is very particular in getting...

The more i think about it, the more i feel it does not make sense. Why would you ask your boyfriend and your daughter to go sleep together into another room. What effort does it take to all sleep together. I really don't get it. Even more if she took something for her anxiety or to help her...

'In one of those video's Sterns said to Madeline (then 8 years old!) that she could not play with the phone unless she performed a sex act.' This is beyond shocking.

Isn't JS behaviour at the very least child neglect? Is it a possibility that they offered her a deal in return to be a witness? Im baffled that there are no charges yet.

Im sorry you had to go through that. I have also personal experience with suicide. If only we could relieve the pain and mental fear and anxiety for our loved ones. We can only hope that they are at peace now. The feeling they so heavily craved. This case is wild in my personal opinion...

Im reading the question why call 911 when she was about to kill herself. I work at a mental health hotline and for a very short time at a suicide hotline. Some people call the hotline while preparing to kill themselves. They crave for conversation and connection in their last moments. Some just...

Death of Madeline Soto is by domestic violence.

Such a tragic outcome. Rest in peace Carson.

Indeed. I am very curious what happened between the end of her birthday party the night before and when he dumped the backpack and laptop.

https://usa.fishermap.org/depth-map/versailles-lake-in/ Max depth is 33 feet.

I wonder if she was killed at home. In the presser they said they have video evidence stephan sterns returning to the complex (the home) and madeline was visible in the vehicle. That is when they said they believed she was already dead by that time. Where did he come from to return to the home? JMO

It's more complex then that. There is alot of emotions like shame and guilt that could come in the play. Maybe he even threatened her to hurt someone she loved if she would tell someone. JMO

I personally believe he abused her more then what is documented. It's possible he didn't film it every time. JMO

I can't describe how much this case affects me and possible others. This is extremely saddening. Words can't describe the emotions. Wishing the ultimate justice for dear Madeline.

Thank you everyone for clarifying. It will be interesting to know who eventually send the messages to her brother and friend. Because if it was a stranger, how would he know who to send the message to. Makes me think it must be someone who knows her. JMO

Does anyone know what 'biological remains' means? Maybe it's the translation.