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  1. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #16

    I agree with this post. I’m a retired family therapist but although I have over 20 years of experience and much education....I don’t consider myself an expert because after a few years of “gardening” my DSM knowledge is quite rusty! Lol but hopefully can still add my unique contribution ! :)...
  2. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #16

    But only because SW’s friend raised the alarm much sooner than anticipated. It’s possible this case might have been much more difficult for LE the longer it was pursued as a missing persons case. SW’s friend nipped that in the bud!
  3. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #16

    Just want to vent. I belong to a couple of “groups” and notice increasing negative rhetoric about SW. I am not so naive to think that it’s impossible for a wife to kill her children out of rage at their philandering husband who now wants a separation. But in this case, for this woman to kill...
  4. Rayleengale

    IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #42

    In the police interview, CW admits to having seen MT before. She runs regularly. He says he circled her several times before approaching her. It sounds like stalking to me. Cristhian Bahena Rivera: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com
  5. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #15

    Sorry, I meant to quote Bill Carson’s post....still learning to navigate this site! Lol I understand that in our desire to make sense of the annihilation of a family, we search for triggers, possible stressors, etc and it can begin to sound like victim bashing. But in this case, I believe that...
  6. Rayleengale

    IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #41

    I went back and updated my post. I believe she’s 21 now and she definitely graduated one year ahead of MT. Thanks.
  7. Rayleengale

    IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #41

    Wanted to update and correct this post. I found a New York Times article that states IM (the gf of CR) graduated in 2016 one year ahead of MT. So she’s 21 now. Still, she was young but I didn’t know how to edit and wanted to correct my error.
  8. Rayleengale

    IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #41

    Sorry, I thought she was a year behind...so she’s not 19 ? Not sure where I got that, my apologies.
  9. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #14

    Wasn’t this all a hoax story anyway? Is there any verifiable evidence that any of this was true? As far as I understand, the only confirmed affair is the one mentioned by LE.
  10. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #14

    You can’t tell if someone is “blue” from these cameras. CW is lying. Thank you for posting these.
  11. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #14

    I agree ! If it was a fight that escalated into murder then he killed her first...but then no reason to kill the babies imo....but if he planned it in order to be completely free, then he could have killed the girls before she arrived home. My best, most fervent hope is that none of them ever...
  12. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #14

    Oh you are correct but that doesn’t mean jurors arent wanting to hear from the defendant...
  13. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #14

    I don’t think she found out, maybe suspected cuz she noticed he was acting different. I think CW was lying in wait for her either to declare he wants separation or just to end her life. I’m not sure whether a fight escalated into murder or he planned it.
  14. Rayleengale

    IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #41

    I would not be surprised if CR was lacking in social skills and confidence with women. The mother of his child is only 19 and his daughter is 3. He’s 24 so he was a 21 year old dating a 16 year old. He is not well educated and may not be very criminally saavy. Looks like a crime of opportunity...
  15. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #14

    Anybody remember that family killer, Chris Coleman, who worked as security for a televangelist? He wanted a clean slate with his wife’s childhood friend. He was very concerned about what others thought of him and tried to make it look like it was a hit of some kind. I wonder if there are any...
  16. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #12

    Wow, this is so well written. Absolutely expressing so much of what I was feeling and thinking. Thank you for putting the effort and thought into this post.
  17. Rayleengale

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #12

    Just a few thoughts....often affairs by either partner are a symptom of a marriage with intimacy/trust issues. It appears that CW was looking outside the marriage for needs/wants....layering this huge martial issue on top of his fairly recent improved looks/diet/physique ( warning sign ) ...her...

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