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From today's Times newspaper (UK) - the Simon referred to is a neighbour: "The first inkling that Simon, 32, had that something was badly wrong over the road was when the parents were arrested that Sunday. “I had friends staying and they were, like, ‘Salynn, you’ve got a bunch of cop cars...

Yes, I don't see why there's so much antagonism towards L's sister Teresa. Those weren't fake tears; she's in a state of misery. The background sexual abuse seems only too likely, and she's not presenting it as an excuse. The phasing out of contact, first in person then by Skype/phone is...

Watch LT break into a really horrid laugh/grin in the first minute of this video, when the Elvis impersonator sings the words, "Never let THEM go". A really sinister shared joke with her hubby, IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkQkHIY_1Lo

Many thanks.

Following from UK, any updates on 20/20 from across the pond most gratefully received.

Completely speculating here, but I wonder if there isn't a good reason to cut L's family some slack here. The parents are just ancient and in denial, but with L's whole family, isn't it possible they had been deceived into thinking that L & D had become too rich, too religious, too wonderful to...

I'm sure Joshua Boyle's parents ARE mortified. I think they've been covering for him for years, and they know it. When the announcement of his release came, the Ma said something along the lines of, there will be great challenges ahead, he will be changed....you bet your arse she knew (a) he...

Sorry Elainera & others, I was cooking whilst typing & I'm one of those people who can't walk & chew gum at the same time....

Totally agree.

Me too. I think JB gaslighted her. There's no way a moving guerrilla unit would somehow have oestrogen to sprinkle on the food of female hostages. Anyway, if they wanted to kill a child in the womb, they only had to beat the mother, which God knows alas they've done before.

OK, I think I'm getting you here. Are you saying that the episode, so soon after their retrieval, when Caitlan was sent for treatment was done of the basis of her husband's false statement that she was suicidal and in need of treatment, in order to deflect police/social services from allegations...

It shows his usual arrogance (the "haha" comment), but imo it's also designed to tease (poss future book in mind, he's no other source of income) and to put Trudeau on the spot. Why the hell Trudeau didn't foresee the PR nightmare of dealing with dodgy Josh is quite beyond many of us.

Apologies if anyone has posted this before, but I thought this video excerpt was really interesting in terms of fleshing out Boyle's previous Islamist contacts, and the effect of this on his parents: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcfDWFa4iFo

Could you possibly find/repost the article about the house in which HvB/Danielle were found? Could be useful.

Anyone else think he might have NPD? A little cult leader with a follower of one (Caitlan) who wants to breed more disciples. Just a theory.

Yep. Firedragon, you have some truly interesting theories, but they seem to be one step ahead of what the rest of us can find, and the links you have provided don't quite support what you're saying. Again, apologies if I'm missing something; but if I'm not, it would be good to know that we can...

All I'm picking up, from some but not all of these sources you quote, is that Boyle & Coleman were said to have been picked up whilst travelling "in a car". How does this get us to having him driving, or being in a PRT vehicle? Apologies if I am missing something again.

What is the evidence that he was either driving or a passenger in a PRF vehicle? Other Central Asian rumours have them entering the area on foot or even at one point on bicycles. With all respect to Firedragon, I suspect that this is a massive red herring or misunderstanding. My apologies if I'm...

Bellbaby made a comment, "I think he gaslighted his wife". This rings true. She can't carry a baby to term (massive stress / illness / poor nutrition) though he's persuaded her to travel with him through the 'stans (at best) or to link up with Islamists in Afghanistan, when pregnant. So he...

The “safe food” and oestrogen poisoning stories are so absurd that it makes one seriously question Boyle’s mental stability. If his captors were desperate to kill his children, born or unborn, they had many effective ways of doing so. As for burying food - what, were they given huge supplies of...