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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    If the movie was not over, I could see Kyle staying a few minutes to catch the end when JA passed out. I can see grandpa NOT throwing out someone who had been drinking, who intended to drive home. My daughter is in that age range, and if one of her friends was drinking, she would expect them...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I think all the family could have known about his taste in *advertiser censored* was what they SAY they knew. "spanking". Not "child *advertiser censored*". Pretty much not one of those things you would go around telling people you watch, IMO. I had heard SOME friends said he liked girls who were middle-school aged, but...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    A year. They knew him a YEAR and people refer to him as a stranger. I don't know about you, but I would guess that half of my friends have moved in with, or married someone they had known only a year...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    JA was interviewed and said that (a day after saying what a great friend of the family Kyle was).
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Where does she say he was drunk when he did this?
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Did grandma know he watched *advertiser censored*? Don't LOTS of people watch *advertiser censored* in private? Would you quiz people about their *advertiser censored*-watching habits when you first met them? Would you expect them to tell you? How would YOU react if asked those things? Isn't that their personal business? Also, the baby did not...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    To my understanding, nobody has even mentioned the grandmother having had any alcohol the night Shaylyn disappeared. For all we know, she may be a teetotaller (sometimes people who have drinkers in the family DO abstain), so her definition of "drunk" is unclear.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Most parents attending had beers in their hands. I later learned it was not at all uncommon to serve parents alcohol (it was 10am on a Saturday!!!) so we always had our daughter's parties at McDonalds or Chuck E Cheese where that was not an option/issue. I was never a big drinker, and when I...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I was pretty shocked when my daughter was invited to a birthday party for a pre-school classmate turning 3, and they served alcohol to the adults. I mean, really. It was a party for a CHILD.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I know I am coming across badly today, but when a friend of YOURS brings a friend of THEIRS to your home, do you request a photo ID and do a background check before you let them in? It would be prudent, but in practice, WHO DOES THIS? Did the grandmother, step-grandfather, and dad even KNOW...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I don't "get" men. The idea of guys watching *advertiser censored* with other guys is a bit weird for me, and the idea of watching *advertiser censored* with one's STEPFATHER is even creepier.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Been there. Done that. It made me feel a little sick inside to read this, since it happened to us, although he killed only my daughter's spirit..
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    This was supposed to have happened on a prior occasion. The step-grand-dad "fixing the antenna" was the night she disappeared.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    In the beginning, the Dad said he was a good friend of the family, and later he said he knew nothing about the guy, didn't really know him at all.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    My parents were huge drunks. When my sister was about 3 or 4, my dad had her on his shoulders and dropped her onto a parking lot, breaking her arm. This was in the late 1960s, and nobody made a big deal of it. I am still pretty horrified about it, but because he was allowed to continue to hold...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    This was not the original article. I never found that one. This was as close as I could find, but the other said they do not expect additional arrests going forward.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    http://www.reporter-times.com/it-s-just-horrible-kyle-parker-charged-with-murder-rape/article_84aeb2af-7ed6-547e-8786-21d63afe4b62.html "Ammerman also told police that his mother, Tammy Morgan, had walked into their house one day and found Parker sitting in a rocking chair, intoxicated and...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    (with regard to the sheriff saying there were no further arrests forthcoming) I saw it this morning. It was the last sentence in an article I am trying to find now. I will edit this post as soon as I track it down. Here is a different article with a little less conviction...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    The sheriff said no further arrests are forthcoming...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I believe he claimed to have gone to bed around midnight while A and K continued to watch TV until A fell asleep.

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