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Hi, back with a lengthy post APOLOGIZE :o I enjoyed myself trying to unravel the chords between the “ bad boys” circling this trial . . I think there is a lot more and I will continue the next days - if anybody interested. No relevance to the trial or appeal, just curious :) Ok...

His name is Guil Yahav. It seems he was friends with OP, but also belonged to a bunch of dubious guys - to say the least. I once started digging deeper into how the are all connected, i.e. also with Mikey Schultz and Mortimer. Here is one link quickly about Yahav...

[/B] You are SO right ! I am also very uncomfortable with the fact that they don't waist a thought on other prisoners and appreciate he is already treated different from the usual ' non celeb' offender. Which in a way I'm ok with as I don't find pleasure in seeing him suffer. One of the things...

Agree, I'm afraid you are right. And as Mr Happy pointed out . . already past his prime. It was just this money milking greediness that angered me. I can find lots and lots of better stuff for him to do in prison than pondering about his career as a runner.

I was trying to dig out some insights into REAL LIFE in SA prisons. Strangely enough if you google 70% percent of results is related to . . guess who . . Oscar, quite annoying. So far there is also little to be found from NGOs or other independent sources. So here is a mix for the ones...

Makes me sick and VERY angry :mad: The speed in which his manager and coach lay their hands on him - solely to get their OWN careers starting again asap, using OP as their 'vehicle'. It's disgusting. FGS - how can they ever pretend to care about him ??? No matter how one may feel about OP, I...

Indeed a very good read, thanks. Apologize if posted already. From the Guardian, hitting in the same direction in a broader context. "There are several ways to “disappear” women. One is to shoot them in the head and cry about the bloody aftermath. Another is not to mention their...

:giggle: nooooooooooooooooooooooo, please

Hi Estelle, thanks for caring to point out about the "tailoring" . I understood the same way, i.e. a hint on OPs tailoring. Unfortunately I did not pick it up in my reply :-(

Hi Estelle, very thoughtful and insightfully balanced post. Special thanks for the BIB. But I feel admitting to what he has done is such a huge step, I don't see him doing it. I worry he will stick with believing his own lies to make it bearable for him and continue. But who knows . . .?

New tweet, 1 hour ago "James Grant @CriminalLawZA · I'm strongly in favour of appeal to redefine & clarify DE & error in objecto, & to challenge Seekoei hurdle to state appealing on the law." . . . still not sure how to understand it . . :waitasec: . . . :hilarious: . . laughing at me

Um . . . thanks again to ALL here giving me such a warm welcome.. . . . now . . .you please stop flattering . . . it's getting a bit embarassing :redface: BIB . subscribe 100 %, as well as the rest of your post. I've already learned so much all the excellent writers and thinkers here.

Thanks again to both, you and Lux for sharing your thoughts in such well put words ! BIB . . . haha . . you are no doubt a master of this ! I so wish OP would pick up the chances to work on his character and behaviour, and emerge a better person from prison. . .

wow, huge number of very interesting posts I still have to catch up with !! Same as others I went back to Prof Grants tweets about state's right to appeal and some news articles. What I read between the lines of the NPA spokesperson they may right now be busy with the same question. "It is...

oh yes, me too I would love to have time for all the things which don't fit in the daily schedule. But no need for envy on tailoring skills - once you learned it and practice as a job it can be quite boring ;)

Hi Estelle thanks for posting this article. SHOCKING to say the least, but somehow not unexpected from what I have read about women in SA myself. Came across an article today about a lawyer arguing that rape - on a minor ! - wasn't really rape as the guy had used his finger, not his penis ...

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It's a heart breaking read and written very well. Thanks for that. I personally have never been exposed to any violence whatsoever, so I can just imagine. I don't think the Steenkamps will ever feel "gratitude". Someone posted a photo upthread, and I agree you can see relief on their faces...

ahem, just to notify . . I'm a female. Paul is the name of my very beloved grandpa born in 1900. He showed true love to my grandma. Visible in photos and very touching postcards he wrote from a prison camp in WWll THANKS LUX :)

Susza, but textile IS almost same as TAILORING . . it is SO funny somehow :laugh: I am working as a technician in garment manufactoring industries, and it would be a complete "NO GO" to buy garments from prison, i.e. forced labour, unless you knew its a special program or some sort of where...