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BBM christee, the formal business lunch going over employee problems comparison is spot on! :toastred: Nothing in her manner suggests the kind of panic or emotional upheaval one would expect going through such an event. Calm, cool, collected and trying to bully Comm. Irwin into getting...

Respectfully snipped........ LOL This statement reminded me of early days when she demanded an apology from Sheriff Beary, and he was asked about it on camera, and he said something to the effect of "it's never gonna happen". That was great! She wanted apologies from a lot of people in LE...

Val, I want to say this, but I also want to avoid stirring the pot, so I will try and be careful....Just to let you know, I was relieved by your post that day, as you will see below..... The day you allude to in your post above......I got it (your post) and so did some others. We were few...

I slogged my way thru this drivel and made it out the other side. Comm. Irwin has the patience of Job. Dealing w/ this woman must be one of the most challenging points in his career.

I'm listening to CA while balancing my checking account. Two ugly chores at the same time!

Exactly. She's so overwrought that KC "hasn't been given a fair shake. She really hasn't". This woman is........unbelievable. That's the euphemism I'm coming up with, otherwise, I'd be in trouble. Here she is dictating to Commander Irwin how things should be handled, and yet she seems...

Yes, that was a highlight for me as well! I love it. I think JB and A Lyon thought everyone would be so dazzled by her, and LDB was just some flunky from the SA office. Think again. They thought they'd "Razzle Dazzle Em" like Billy Flynn in "Chicago".

Something I just thought of.......We had some former employees embezzle, forge checks, and steal a lot of money from us. Alot. (How this happened was stupidity on our part, but I won't digress as it is OT, and painful to relate.) But, we were told that if the perps would pay back the amount...

I think his maneuver was in paying off Amy they could then argue that Amy was repaid, then that would mitigate the financial damage and then his and A Lyon's next gambit was to file that motion claiming there was no way they could prepare for the check fraud case and her DP murder trial. *Why...

I just wanted to say how much it means to have someone who goes down to the courthouse and gets these docs for us. Having an "in" is fantastic! Thank You Muzikman!!!! :beats:

So, the defense is going to have to go w/ one of three alternatives---- "Zanny" had a key. (We've heard that one before.) A friend, relative, hired contractor/help, or neighbor had a key. The immediate family/the As, of course had access to the house, so no key needed. To JB and...

You're right, she does control them in this manner by making them look for scraps of acknowledgment at the hearings. Could a deal have been struck between the As and KC as to how this would be reported and handled w/ LE? Maybe that was the "script". I don't know, I could be having a flight...

Nooooooooooooo! I feel like the air is seeping out of me......say it aint so. :raincloud: :no: I had such high hopes, like everyone. Val, JWG, BJB, (and others who contributed who I may be overlooking.)thanks for all your tireless work. :bowdown: I learned a lot. And yes, we will need...

Thank you, Val. I think you're right on--it is agonizing, the wait to see how all of this pans out and how all of this info that you and others are processing fits into the case. FWIW, I don't think you'd have to eat your hat or any other item of clothing, b/c I think you are all onto...

(respectfully snipped) :laugh: That's great!

I agree. I also think it got too convoluted for her abilities. It's a lot of balls to keep up in the air---stealing, shopping w/ stolen money, lying, partying, banging, playing house, clubbing, texting umpteen hours of the day, avoiding your family, etc etc.....too much to keep track of, and...

Instead of thanking each post, may I say Thank You and Brilliant! to JWG, Val, and BJB. It's at this point of your sleuthing that I feel an overwhelming need to get out of the way, go sit in a corner, and watch it all unfold.:ashamed: I am nowhere in your league. Thank you for all the work...

This is a puzzler, in a way. (For me). I can see all of what you posted as being the reason KC has kept her parents at a distance at the hearings--she's a sociopath, she's a murderer, she's mad at them for the "oops" moments, CA making the call, etc. But, there is a little niggling suspicion...

Yes, yes, yes. I for one, have never bought his story at face value. The detail he got into was a little too precise, IMO. Conversely, he can't remember if KC every contributed regularly to the household w/ her "earnings". And that's just one of the "I don't recalls" we've heard, there are...