Audio of meeting-Commander Irwin and Cindy

[Intermezzo]

Hey, Folks...popping in for a second to say I am feeling amazed. Cindy seems more upset at Yuri for "losing" a "zipdrive" than she was at Casey for "losing" Caylee...just, wow. I give up, I'll never understand her.

:clap::clap::clap:

 

[Sdavidson11]

38:18-47:05 This was the hardest portion to listen to Cindy Blah blah blah. There is a lot of background noise and CA says something a very loyal person. Then Irwin says talking of YM and JA I wouldn't believe first of all that there intention was to try to get into you house to see KC. I can't speak to their state of mind. I don't think they were trying to be disrespectful. CA says well no I don't think it was disrespect as much as it was not thinking about it. I asked them if tears made them feel good. He gave me a big grin and then (to much background noise to hear what she was saying) CA then Nick said the other reason was to talk about the Sheriff station. The whole focus on KC and not Caylee. No body gave me news last night except to bring me my book bag. That could have been done this morning or afternoon. It wasn't earth shattering stuff. CA continues all I want is you to think about my feelings. I am going through a lot but trying to do this the right way. I am trying to keep my emotions in my house, in my own room, (background noise hard to hear)trying not to break down in front of KC, GA or LA because everyone is so emotional. Then Irwin asks-How is that going, is everybody getting along or. Then CA says it's very hard, lots of tension but that is to be expected. And there is a strange person in our house too. Not fair to my friends. GA is still very emotional. He has not been able to come to grip with everything that has happened.. He is still in shock. Lee and I are in reality and we have to try to move forward. It has been very hard on GA he is the protector of this family and he feels that then loud background noise. Lee got there on Sat. and it has been hard on him understandably so. He is the father the protector. Everybody who is working on the outside it is hard on him. Back ground noise CA blah blah CA told GA that he is a great grandfather and you have to let everybody else do that and be supportive of me, KC and Lee. GA is struggling with that cause he is the man of the house, the protection, and he can't do anything. CA then says that I understand that about GA. But it is hard on GA cause he can't do what he was doing before. He was working with the charity, reaching out and working on the fliers. Other people are doing his Job. GA went back to work for a few hours then they gave him the next 2 days off and CA told him that he needed to do what he needed to do. Lots of background noise CA blah blah Yesterday was GA first full day back to work. CA feels that it is a good distraction for him and to go back to work and get another focus. Try to get some normalcy. Then CA states again that there life is not normal and Irwin says that is true. CA continues that GA is stressing the hardest and then he also went somewhere Friday night. CA state a couple of weeks ago they committed to attend a children's charity in West Palm and he wasn't going to go but CA told him to go with Jim and CA would stay with KC. So they had troops out front and reinforcements were there. Every move we made they were watching us. When I went to get the mail they would walk me down to it. You know again GA didn't want to leave us alone because he is our protection. I can see but I can't tell him how to live, he has to figure that himself. Irwin finally gets to talk and asks What about having these strangers in your house, is that going alright? CA told him they were having a couple of problems (lots of background noise hard to hear) They have walkie talkies, If we need anything they are right there. Truthfully when the media was there they helped. (more background noise) Irwin says I have only seen the guy on TV him and his crew look like characters. CA tells him that the 2 main guys who are with them all the time are ex police officers. The guy that goes with them everywhere was a deputy sheriff. Irwin says OK and then asks if they are all from California?

 

[Intermezzo]

A confession -- I am addicted to listening to Cindy Anthony. Maybe it's because I'm a NASCAR fan, who likes to watch cars go round and round and round and round and round and round until they wreck.

I *still* listen to Cindy's deposition. My favorite part is when she sez 'you're not gonna put this mic on me!' and then she comes back, all surly and sad, wearing the mic.

I cannot help myself. I can't stop watching / listening to her shooting herself in the foot. I'm surprised she has feet left.

Blaise (And while I'm confessing my deepest, darkest secrets? I like her hair.)

:rolling:

 

[aafromaa]

Toward the very end CA goes out of her way to say "I'm keeping Casey off the home computer"............says it twice. Direct contradiction to Tracey's comments that she was on the computer all the time..............hmmmm

I thought TMc said KC didn't use computer at home very often but was on it in the conference room at JB's office most of the time???? I remember thinking that was probably by JB's design since the A's computers could be subpoenaed again but LE wasn't likely to be able to look at his and see what KC was looking at on it. Was I wrong about that?

 

[Searchfortruth]

Sdavidson, hope you don't mind I copied this one sentence from your wonderful transcript of the "interview"...

BBM

"GA is still very emotional. He has not been able to come to grip with everything that has happened.. He is still in shock. Lee and I are in reality and we have to try to move forward."

I think this means that George is not buying Casey's BS, but that Cindy and Lee have and are able to carry on. Also I believe she is saying that George will not be able to carry on until he buys his daughter's unbelievable story just as she and Lee have done.

 

[aafromaa]

I have always wondered why the questioning of KC and the "field trip" was allowed to happen....why they didn't get a lawyer immediately. This makes me wonder if the A's really didn't believe KC did it at first.

I think during those first hours KC thought that LE would believe her lies as easily as her family had over the years and that she had no need for a lawyer because they would believe her and treat her like the victim she wanted to be.

 

[Brini]

This was the most important (well, the ONLY important) part of the discussion.:

Quoting my own post:

He's saying Linda (?) is talking about a plea deal. He's advised her that KC should really consider that before they find "anything (Caylee's body)." Because "right now we think there's been an accident." He's cautioning her that delay may be legally costly to KC. He advised her to discuss this with JB.

CA didn't even hear that.

If KC had pled out BEFORE Caylee's body was found, she would've got off a lot easier.

 

[shotzie]

First I want to give a BIG "THANK YOU TO MUZIKMAN" for getting this audio started..and a bigggg holler of THANKS to all you wonderful POSTERS that took the time to write all this garbage down..I listened maybe 6 minutes That was enough..The woman is just like her Daughter..two peas in a POD..:crazy:

I can hardly wait for the new depostion this next week to finish up with MORGAN,,:clap: I hope it is still on..
we can watch more stories (being polite) :waitasec: come out of her mouth..but this time she is under OATH..Yeh:woohoo:

 

[nssherlock]

This was the most important (well, the ONLY important) part of the discussion.:

Quoting my own post:

He's saying Linda (?) is talking about a plea deal. He's advised her that KC should really consider that before they find "anything (Caylee's body)." Because "right now we think there's been an accident." He's cautioning her that delay may be legally costly to KC. He advised her to discuss this with JB.

CA didn't even hear that.

If KC had pled out BEFORE Caylee's body was found, she would've got off a lot easier.

CA just talked right through the best advice she ever got in her life it seems............Failure to LISTEN is costly! Now I have to think about how disappointed this makes me.............

 

[metalcrystal]

This was the most important (well, the ONLY important) part of the discussion.:

Quoting my own post:

He's saying Linda (?) is talking about a plea deal. He's advised her that KC should really consider that before they find "anything (Caylee's body)." Because "right now we think there's been an accident." He's cautioning her that delay may be legally costly to KC. He advised her to discuss this with JB.

CA didn't even hear that.

If KC had pled out BEFORE Caylee's body was found, she would've got off a lot easier.

linda drane Burdick, she is a prosecutor

 

[Sdavidson11]

Brini I finally came to that part of the convey. I get so caught up in the Blah Blah 47:05-52:40 Irwin starts, I wonder before I forget. I don't want to get into what Jose says or does but so you know JA, myself and the prosecute went to JOB office a couple of weeks ago to talk to him. She made him not an offer but made some limited use of immunity for KC and I wanted to let you know that she sent him an e-mail yesterday basically saying we need to come to a decision by Thurday. I just wanted to let you know that so you can help decide what to do. CA said that I am not aware of that. Irwin then says, from my point of view by overseeing or managing this doesn't give me the opportunity to know all the details. You know every little detail but from a practical stand point that if something happened and KC is just afraid, it would definitely be to her benefit to get on the right side of the curb on this thing before we find something more then she can start explaining. That is what we talked to JB about. If something happened and she is panicking or just afraid to say. Right now everyone believes that there was an accident that may have occurred. If you take that something bad has happened to Caylee everybody accepts that it was probably an accident. Weather it was your pool or whatever circumstance that you can imagine. But if you wait until we find Caylee to come up with a reason of how it happened. That is not going to look very good on her part. And were just trying to talk to JB about it and Linda laid some ground rules an I guess JB hasn't replied. So that is why she sent this e-mail. CA said I plan on spending half the day with him tomorrow. I may go see him today cause I want to look at some discovery stuff to check in with him. Irwin says, well Cindy this is a miserable situation that you are in and it doesn't always look like we appreciate that but I can tell you that everybody appreciated that your between a rock and a hard place doesn't even come close to even defining it. It's just a miserable situation. CA says, Well I don't, I don't still think ( there is background noise and CA is talking very slow and almost confused sounding) If it was an accident that she that she saw. That an accident that happened KC would not cover it up. There is no reason to cover it up. An KC would be the first one to cry out for help when Caylee skinned her knee BLah, BLah( those were CA's Blah's) Irwin then says, People respond to things differently and out of character Lot of times. My experience has been sex crimes. I came through detective and supervisor of the sex crimes squad and I've seen people who were the most upstanding people in the world molesting little kids or doing god awful, horrible things that you would never ever CA--Right Irwin- What I am getting at is we see families who should be upset and wanting to kill hate guy, hand him from the highest tree. They respond when the pressure is on you just never really know how they will respond and that is what I would ask you to keep and open mind about stuff. CA says, that is what I asked her, watching what she has put us through and her sitting in jail for so long (background noise, I think this is what she is saying) and putting us through this for so long and if I thought she was covering up for someone else. I don't know. I can't see. Irwin says here is the thing though, here is what I was thinking I don't look at it that she might be covering it up. Although that is possible. We arrested her, she was sitting in jail and she got an attorney. JB is doing hes job. I think very clearly he is doing his job and part of his job is to keep her from talking. Whatever she says will be used against her later so if she panicked initially, found herself in the jail and now she can't under his direction can't explain it away now because of the fear of legal ramifications if she does and thais if it looks like its so. You may want to have the conversation with JB how can we resolve this before she gets into a bind wher now people will think that she is being proactive and is going to dump something.

 

[AZlawyer]

First I want to give a BIG "THANK YOU TO MUZIKMAN" for getting this audio started..and a bigggg holler of THANKS to all you wonderful POSTERS that took the time to write all this garbage down..I listened maybe 6 minutes That was enough..The woman is just like her Daughter..two peas in a POD..:crazy:

I can hardly wait for the new depostion this next week to finish up with MORGAN,,:clap: I hope it is still on..
we can watch more stories (being polite) :waitasec: come out of her mouth..but this time she is under OATH..Yeh:woohoo:

I think this coming week is just the hearing to decide whether Cindy has to go back to Morgan for more questioning.

 

[Mystic]

Sdavidson, hope you don't mind I copied this one sentence from your wonderful transcript of the "interview"...

BBM

"GA is still very emotional. He has not been able to come to grip with everything that has happened.. He is still in shock. Lee and I are in reality and we have to try to move forward."

I think this means that George is not buying Casey's BS, but that Cindy and Lee have and are able to carry on. Also I believe she is saying that George will not be able to carry on until he buys his daughter's unbelievable story just as she and Lee have done.

yup, i'd say your spot on with that interpretation! she's some piece of work

 

[static]

I honestly can't even understand what she is trying to get across. She is rambling on about a zip drive and somehow this is making her uncomfortable and suspicious of Yuri. It is bizarre.

If you wait until miller time, please know that it's not the beer that is making it impossible for you to follow her line of thinking. :crazy:

LOL she is trying to get Yuri in trouble with his boss...God how pathetic...omg I just cannot believe this woman. She is looking to make allies, and trying to make this wonderful detective look BAD...Sorry Cindy, he is doing his job, and he does it well.

 

[christee]

If this has been asked/answered already my apologies but i have to do it quick 'cause I can't stand listening to much more of CA. I think this interview was when Tracy or someone outside the family was staying at the house.
Ok my question is why is Cindy meeting with the COMMANDER? Did she throw a fit and demand a meeting with the person in charge of all Investigators?
Geez!
She's whining and moaning and groaning and...:boohoo:
Not once did her voice crack w/ emotion when her grandaughters' name was mentioned-probably because she didn't mention how much she missed Caylee.
She didn't ask Irwin what she could do to find Caylee because she's scared that Caylee's hurt or injured. There's no emotion from her as a scared grandmother! There's no sense of panic and the tearful "what's happened to my grandaughter!"
She doesn't ask Irwin these questions, because she KNOWS what's happened to Caylee, and her mind now is focused on 'Damage Control'-saving her daughter, because she can't save her grandaughter.
To me this conversation sounds like a formal business lunch discussing employee problems. It does not sound like a distraught grandmother desperately trying to find her grandaughter!!

Ok-rant's over

(BTW, it's hard to understand CA at times-she made sure she chewed her food completely)

 

[PMLsmom]

OK - I'm on my tenth beer, and can barely stand to read what the brave souls are listening to, let alone try and listen to the carp spewed by this woman. THANK YOU all of you BRAVE people! Off to get my 11th...Maybe I can listen then. Sorry, just not enough, even after the 11th...

 

[christee]

Ok, bear with me...
I've survived the 50 minute mark and I had to stop for a sec 'cause I think I'm hearin' things.

I can only understand intermittent parts of a sentence, and please, if I'm wrong let me know, but here's something CA says (bolded) that caught my attention:

at 49:30
"I, I don't, I don't, still don't think..."

at 49:47
"that if it was an accident that she would, that she saw..."

at 49:52
"...then that was an accident...sat on her and her...KC would cover it up, 'cause there's no reason to cover up an accident."

My 1st thought is why is she even discussing the "what-if's" of an accident?

Someone please give me somethin' strong to drink-quick!

 

[The Eunice Burns]

She says she "Never got an apology from Yuri."

Respectfully snipped........

LOL This statement reminded me of early days when she demanded an apology from Sheriff Beary, and he was asked about it on camera, and he said something to the effect of "it's never gonna happen". That was great! She wanted apologies from a lot of people in LE. She does have some moxie, that one. (I hope I'm not cobbling something together in my memory, b/c I am sure I had seen that on WFTV at some point.......)

 

[The Eunice Burns]

If this has been asked/answered already my apologies but i have to do it quick 'cause I can't stand listening to much more of CA. I think this interview was when Tracy or someone outside the family was staying at the house.
Ok my question is why is Cindy meeting with the COMMANDER? Did she throw a fit and demand a meeting with the person in charge of all Investigators?
Geez!
She's whining and moaning and groaning and...:boohoo:
Not once did her voice crack w/ emotion when her grandaughters' name was mentioned-probably because she didn't mentioned how much she missed Caylee.
She didn't ask Irwin what she could do to find Caylee because she's scared that Caylee's hurt or injured. There's no emotion from her as a scared grandmother! There's no sense of panic and the tearful "what's happened to my grandaughter!"
She doesn't ask Irwin these questions, because she KNOWS what's happened to Caylee, and her mind now is focused on 'Damage Control'-saving her daughter, because she can't save her grandaughter.
To me this conversation sounds like a formal business lunch discussing employee problems. It does not sound like a distraught grandmother desperately trying to find her grandaughter!!

Ok-rant's over

(BTW, it's hard to understand CA at times-she made sure she chewed her food completely)

BBM christee, the formal business lunch going over employee problems comparison is spot on! :toastred:

Nothing in her manner suggests the kind of panic or emotional upheaval one would expect going through such an event. Calm, cool, collected and trying to bully Comm. Irwin into getting his detectives to do their job the way she thought it should be!

 

[debbie0604]

LOL she is trying to get Yuri in trouble with his boss...God how pathetic...omg I just cannot believe this woman. She is looking to make allies, and trying to make this wonderful detective look BAD...Sorry Cindy, he is doing his job, and he does it well.

I agree totally. And saying that she never received an apology from Yuri? Unbeliveable!! He doesn't owe her or anyone in that family an apology. What he was stating in his interrogation of KC was truth. Whatever he has had to say to them may have been difficult to hear, but his first priority was Caylee not KC... and we all see what CA's first priority is....it's just so very obvious.