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Just read about this. It's heartbreaking. This must be a copycat killing of sorts, at least it sounds like it. No doubt another crazy person. Another sad day for our nation.

I've listened to both, and I do not hear those words. I'm hearing, hur we, we nee, we had a kidnapping...she is initially stuttering, imo.

I'm not active on this case, but I do read along, both here and at FFJ. I used to be staunchly in the PDI camp, but after reading Docg's blog, I have to agree with Docg, and you, Chrishope on who the strongest suspect is. It's like this. We've got a ransom note that looks like Patsy might...

When my children were young, my 2 year old daughter hit her 4 year old brother in the head with the soft, padded end of a stick horse. He wanted it, and she wouldn't let him have it. She knocked him out cold, but thankfully only briefly. Had it been a golf club....just sayin

So sorry to hear Mr. Estrada is gone. I'd hoped he might still be working on this case after leaving ECSO. Maybe he was, and hopefully, Anne, you will get any papers he might have still hung onto. No one at ECSO pursued this case like he did, and he did a great service for you, Anne!

Welcome to WS, Ron, and glad to have your interest in this case! In addition to the terrible murder of Mattie and Patty, there's a lot going on in this case behind the scenes. Maybe you can make sense of it all!

Teased at school, then teased at home. This poor child had no where to run, no where to hide. Very sad.

Didn't say anything about an extra driver, but that's neither here nor there. Cunningham looks very good as a suspect, numero uno given his background. Second on the list, imo would be the teen driver that dropped Lonnie off. I'm having trouble imagining a 12 year old, small for his age...

I had forgotten about this case, then spotted it again. Some great progress has been made here. Peter Brent, your profile post was marvelous. I think I've read all the posts here, but can't place the Cunningham person. Who was he, if someone is willing to give brief rundown? Having been...

Here's a two page article I found on this case: http://articles.latimes.com/1985-05-09/news/ga-7022_1_murder-investigation Younger brother passed a poly. Apparently neither the father or an older brother or the mother was home that evening. The parents were estranged. If I had to...

In intermediate-range wounds, the muzzle is held away from the skin but close enough that it still produces powder tattooing. This type of wound is also characterized by numerous reddish-brown to orange-red lesions around the entrance to the wound...

Please disregard anything I wrote regarding the killer being of a fastidious nature in my last post. Somewhere along the way, I got the idea Patty's clothes were folded, but in rewatching http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/larry_barker/50-year-old-murder-mystery-still-resonates I see Patty's...

Hello Sunshine, dear. In my zeal at having discovered Church St. connects to N. Happy Valley Road. I failed to look far enough north to notice N. Happy Valley connects up with the Artesia Highway. Duh...My only excuse is having to work with an aging brain. We never discussed the roads the...

Poor little Regina. I feel so sorry for her and her parents. Unfortunately, the sketch looks like that of a 15 year old boy and not a 34 yr. old man, imo. Maybe someone killed the creep. I'll check to see if any UIDs might be a possibility. Often those who kill wind up murdered themselves...

Thanks, dotr. I was just looking at a map of Carlsbad a few minutes ago. Another reason I don't think the murderer was someone from Carlsbad is that the sheriff's office personel told Sunshine the girls were picked up on Church Street. If the abductor was familiar with Carlsbad, he would...

No, no, the words were in quotes. It was not a police report. It was comments Martin made early on after hearing the screams in that first witness's 911 call. The quotes were in an article. I read it earlier today, but it is either gone now or I just can't find it. Wesh has numerous...

Quote: Originally Posted by TonyGatto View Post Imagine this goes to trial and no audio experts are permitted to testify -- the jury just listens the 911 call, hears the screams, and makes its own decision. I think the majority -- or at least a plurality -- would believe it is Trayvon. Quote...

I will see that you get the link, but it may take me awhile. I have to dig to find it.

Until the state's attorney gets Tracy Martin on the stand and asks if he remembers making the statement, That's not my son screaming. That's not Trayvon's voice (or words to that effect.) Who is the jury going to believe then? They'll believe the parent.

Duh. Wait a sec while I turn on my brain. All I could think of at the moment was Alcoholics Anonymous.:blushing: