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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #6 *both parents arrested/charged*

    Ah thank you so much, that is such a beautiful thing to say. As I've said before these kiddos have special needs and trauma, my baby just needed extra medical help to handle her mental illness and the trauma she experienced when my mom was murdered. (My mom was a foster parent, murdered by a...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #6 *both parents arrested/charged*

    I'm pretty sure with their own children in custody and their adoptive children in custody no adoption agency would ever let them adopt again. The only way that could happen is IF they are deemed completely innocent. But even losing two children on their watch would be a red flag. I guess the...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #6 *both parents arrested/charged*

    Thanks, I think the issue in this case (and in other fost adopt cases like the Hart case) is these families have too many traumatized kids (be it for financial gain if that is a factor, or perhaps the social workers have asked them to take kids as they are always calling with more children) and...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #6 *both parents arrested/charged*

    I am a foster adoptive parent and I know hundreds of others (I'm very connected to the foster adoption community) and I know exactly ZERO parents who have kicked their kids out at 18 years old. I know parents who have had to put their children in short term therapeutic care for trauma and...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #5

    When my mom was murdered, they took her tech as evidence. They copied everything on her phone and still have it in evidence storage. We asked for pictures from it, (recent photos as we were missing her, the murder was sudden and violent) and they refused to give us access to her phone. They have...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #5

    If the home is another approved foster home the kids can stay in that person's home as long as they had enough approved beds. I believe the grandparents are also foster parents. It would have had to be cleared with the social worker, but they'd probably allow it because the grandparents (I...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #4

    I'm not disagreeing, perhaps the boys were just a paycheck to them, but what I don't get is why kill them/hurt them/get rid of them? If the adoptive parents did something intentional and were involved in their disappearance/death why would they get rid of the boys if they were a paycheck? You...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #4

    The training is inadequate especially because the children in foster care have such severe needs, most of them are behavioral and more training in trauma-informed parenting is essential. BUT most foster kids come with therapists, doctors, teachers, CASA workers, regional center workers, and a...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #4

    I don't know the specifics in this case. I'm not even totally sure the other two were foster children, but if they were, ideally social workers are supposed to see all of the children because the other children interact with their clients (foster kids in their care) especially if they have...
  10. M

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #4

    I am a foster/adoptive parent currently being recertified to adopt through foster care in Los Angeles county. Because I love kids and not for the money, trust me!!!! I have two foster/adoptive children and I am still friends with their DCFS workers who have told me a lot about their caseloads...
  11. M

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #4

    Thank you. Most foster and foster/adoptive parents I know are like me. I found out I couldn't have kids and decided that with 30 thousand children in Los Angeles county looking for homes, any other way of building a family seemed selfish. It is hard and the kids have challenges but knowing you...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #4

    We are in the process of being certified as foster parents again, to adopt from foster care again in California (but a different county) and during Covid they are doing their visits remotely, but the kids are still seen on screen...all of them. Also, they should be conducting a walkthrough of...
  13. M

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #4

    In California, if you are fostering through DCFS (CPS) the social worker comes to your home once a month to see the fostered children and talk to them. If the foster parents are fostering through a Family Foster Agency FFA, it is a little more hands-on and they come once a week. Recently DCFS...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #4

    It takes A LOT to terminate someone's parental rights. If she showed up to every visit on time, sober, and was willing to work her case plan, she'd have her kids. No judge would take children away from a compliant mother. Many birth parents have lots of reasons why they can't be compliant, but...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #3

    Yes, they look at your bank statements, your credit report and talk to your employer. Your employer has to fill out a form, confirming your income, they ask for a current bank statement the day they do your adoption homestudy. So in April of 2019, (or around that time) they had to have some form...
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    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #3

    There has been some talk of the money in foster/adoption and the idea that it's some sort of money-making opportunity for fost/adopt parents. I can imagine it might seem like a great gig for those who have never raised traumatized kids, however, with very few exceptions, most fost/adopt children...
  17. M

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    When my mother was murdered I was the one to find her. I was with LE and they had kicked in the door to find her murdered on the foyer floor. MY MOTHER! My best friend on this earth and the woman I loved with all of my heart. For a minute, I was a person of interest and I have to say at that...
  18. M

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    We are going through the fost/adopt process for the third time in California. Yes, you HAVE to be gainfully employed, your subsidies are considered, but you must have employment and childcare. Your criminal record is checked, your children (bio and adopted) are interviewed and observed. They go...
  19. M

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

    Thank you, it was the worst thing we've ever experienced, but you are right I'd be a complete mess if my children were missing, I'm sure I couldn't even talk. I thought the question was referring to why other family members had not come forward. :) like the Grandma who has the other four kids...

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