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I assumed that the mom wasn't right there. She wandered off to speak on the phone or whatever. The child may not have been "drowning" at first, just treading water in the deep end so the two older kids go to the deep end at the same time to get the little one thinking it is no big deal for...

It's possible that the older ones may have drowned trying to save the youngerst. It may be rare but multiple drownings happen more than you think: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Ramada_Hotel_drownings On April 7, 1993 three teenage boys died by drowning in a swimming pool at a Ramada...

I cannot help you with the timeline but I can offer empathy. Recently, my husband and I were discussing high school and got around to talking about a girl a friend of ours liked back in the day. She was not interested in him because she had a crush on the teacher and said things that implied...

Here's hoping TLC reads this and does the right thing. The article says TLC is partnering with the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network & another advocacy group on this documentary. I hope that it is a true partnership and that RAINN has at least some control over the content.

Clearly, this woman was negligent and her surviving children are probably safer somewhere else, but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that she didn't care. I know many people with poor parenting skills who think their kids can do things that are age inappropriate -- like have an 11 year old in...

This worries me. I don't want the Duggars to have another forum where they can tell America that their reaction to the situation was reasonable and appropriate. Abuse victims do not need that nor do they need to hear these girls defend their brother.

First, drowning can be very quiet. It's not noisy at all and all you have to do is be looking the other way to miss it. Kids have drowned in pools when adults are all around. My guess is the kids all went to the deep end of the pool together and couldn't swim well enough to get out. When you...

I do not think so. I think they are grieving and traumatized. We don't know anything because they haven't spoken and they really do not owe anyone an explanation. They may also be overwhelmed and if they have come to boards and read things like this, afraid to speak out. It sounds to me...

Can I discuss my theory here or should we open up a new thread for Jack and Jill?? My theory is that something happened to Jill due to the abuse or neglect of the parents and they left Jack somewhere because people might ask too many questions if one twin remained with the family. It makes...

There is been an update, part of the mystery is solved and a new mystery emerges. Still no news of the bio Paul Fronczak. But adoptive Paul found out his name was originally Jack and had a twin sister, Jill. Jill is missing. "We have no record of what happened to her. Our research...

never mind

If it is a match, maybe the family asked LE to delay the announcement so they have some time to process the info before dealing with the media?

Is it really that easy to sleep through someone touching you? I know I would wake up.

The older one hopes to set up the same "safeguards" for her family, which includes locks on the doors, no boys babysitting girls and no playing hide and seek. Locks on doors are ok; having your own space and privacy is an ok thing (but it doesn't really count if there are 5 kids in the same...

Or go on the pill, get an IUD or get your tubes died.

I interpret this much differently. I hear him saying MY daughter. I hear it in an ownership kind of way, not loving dad way.

Is her birth father even listed on her birth certificate in VA? In some states they replace it with the adoptive father, even if the child is adopted years after. She would need the original BC before the adoption. Ok, I just realize that this has grown to 19 pages already and I am only up...

He didn't find out anything. Whoever tweeted that is incorrect. But after hearing all the evidence, the judge does have some theories.

double post. sorry

Me too. but on the bright side, they can't influence their kids while in jail and hopefully before they are out will lose custody permanently. Though I must admit, I don't like the thought of them being in the custody of anyone from either Sandy or Casey's families. It sounds as if...