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    Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #104

    I have two thoughts about phone pinging throughout town. My guess is that it was either from their morning and early afternoon activities or he is not tech savvy and misspoke and called it "pinging" when he might have meant they had Snapchats going out to friends throughout the day until things...
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    Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #101

    I thought I saw picture of early snapshot that showed a person just beginning to walk on the bridge. They are WAY back in the background.
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #14 *Arrest*

    Been away from the thread for a few days but did get to listen to most of NG. Glad for the publicity for this case but ackkkkk got so frustrated listening to her go on and on about so much personal stuff that wasn't pertinent or IMO very interesting. I kept thinking... just cut to Kim from...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #14 *Arrest*

    I am guessing that police dogs may work differently, but we gave one of our puppies to a local woman that does search and rescue. This dog, now about 5yo, has been a dream dog for her and she does both Search and Rescue AND cadaver work. She has a different collar for each thing so she knows...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #14 *Arrest*

    But to be so certain he didn't walk out either is also telling. Maybe they assumed a 5yo would obviously put his shoes on first if he was leaving. But I took it they must have had evidence that he was already deceased.
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #13 *Arrest*

    Wouldn't she be charged with using a higher level of drug if she had? Seems like that would have come up in the recent court appearance. I thought the attorney said this is about her use of Mj and her trip to Olive Garden. If they found other drugs in her system, I really think they would...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #13 *Arrest*

    I disagree. But maybe that's because my heart and mind want to. I dont think she taunted him with unobtainable food/treats nor tormented him by making him stand to the side. That day the neighbor met them, he commented that her two older boys were playing around and fighting with broken rake...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #13 *Arrest*

    As far as the lack of LE asking for tips relating specifically to EG, is this because the LACK of evidence available? They can't put her face and vehicle out there because all they have her on is child endangerment charges and they have all the proof they need on that account. Beyond that, they...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #13 *Arrest*

    Anyone know the timeframe when the focus was on parks being searched? Was this before she gave her phone to police or after? Before her arrest or after? If this does gather more local attention again, and they begin asking for tips I wonder how many people will correlate it was a few days...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #13 *Arrest*

    Can certainly suggest theories, just can't throw suspicion on others who haven't been named as a person of interest. WS has no confirmation if she was acting alone or with someone else. It is all speculation. So one person's guess is as good as another at this point. As long as you don't...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #13 *Arrest*

    I guess, for me, I go back to PB saying to concentrate on the dark hours. I wondered if they had some kind of verification that their was movement at night or lack of movement during the day... either by neighbors or by device.
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #13 *Arrest*

    liltexan, I'm curious what would be the best kind of posts to see then on WS? I'm new to this whole thing. No specific location search suggestions because of prying eyes. That makes sense. I get it. No sluething anyone else's involvement because they aren't listed as POI and we need to...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #13 *Arrest*

    Right, that would definitely be horribly premeditated, but would it change the target for possible areas to search? Without being privy to LE info, it seems WS is relegated to looking at general maps to determine good locations to hide a body quick and of course appealing to everyone in a 50...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #13 *Arrest*

    I agree that a fact of premeditation or accident would be very important if it was premeditated in advance. I just have a hard time believing she did that. If she was really planning "friday night is the night", I dont think she would have taken the chance to be out that day without Lucas. She...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #13 *Arrest*

    I think the whole issue of the idea of premeditated murder here will play out in the actual charges in the courtroom but I don't believe they are vital to trying to figure out where Lucas is. If she truly premeditated doing this, she would have gone out of her way to appear like the model mother...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #12 *Arrest*

    I think the group has concluded this charge which should read.. "in a situation", not "station" (they had a typo) had to do with her driving her daughter to dinner after smoking weed. It allowed them to process her into jail while they continued Lucas ' investigation
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #12 *Arrest*

    Pepe.... i dont think we should speculate JH involvement in this way. According to FLA, it was verified that Lucas was seen on Friday sometime surrounding the OG indecent. LE would have verified where JH was because those closest to a missing child are always suspected. I think LE took a few...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #12 *Arrest*

    I really think LE would have verified where and when he was working and not just take his word for it. I don't think they would hesitate to put both in jail which ups the chances of someone talking. I think his interview with bio-mom was telling when he said something like he will most likely...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #12 *Arrest*

    When I reread the info, it looked like she messaged she was going to smoke and then head to OG. But admitted to police it was only with daughter. But since nothing in the reports are direct quotes from her or her devices it is hard to be certain. Eta... here is one link. Third hand info...
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    Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #12 *Arrest*

    Although this is valid, i also think it more likely that she left the baby home sleeping. We are focusing on night time hours. They rent a house, not an apartment. Even if she did wake up, who is going to hear here fussing? She also may have been accustomed to "putting down" the kids...

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