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    GUILTY MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #15

    Sentencing is set for Feb. 6 and 7.
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    You know, with all the focus on keeping Alyssa and others safe, they sure don't have a problem loading her up in vehicle and trucking her all over the place. Put her in a cell and leave her there, take away anything she could use to hurt herself, even her clothes, put her in a suicide suit or...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    I think this may be about competence to participate, and CYA on the PD's part to make sure if she is allowed to participate on her behalf that she is able to do so. If the PD makes a whizz bang deal for anything less than LWOP, because she is in need of treatment, and she turns out to be "fine"...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    I just hope someone does some real evaluation of her while there. She can say she is depressed all she wants. But her behaviour and ability to plan and perpetrate this act, indicate she is not suffering any psychosis or serious mood disorder. SHe was functioning very well, never missing...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    552.050. 1. If the chief administrative officer of any correctional facility has reasonable cause to believe that any offender needs care in a mental hospital, he shall so certify to the division of classification and treatment, which shall then transfer the offender to a state mental hospital...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    Section 475.120.4 RSMO (2000) provides, "A guardian of an adult or minor ward is not obligated by virtue of such guardian's appointment to use the guardian's own financial resources for the support of the ward. In terms of "supporting" the ward, i.e. Alyssa, the grandparents are not...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    Cedar City is long abandoned. IF convicted she could be put in the Juvenile system until 18, the whole Dual Jurisdiction thing, and the sent to a prison.
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    Well as best I can recall, Alyssa may be the first of her kind. I been here for the last 38 years, and I cannot recall another 1st degree murder, or any murder case for that matter, involving a female under 16. I guess they cannot ship them elsewhere, to other states, or private facilities...
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    MO - Six Mohler family members for child sex crimes, Bates City 2009 #2

    These "privileges" are not absolute. They are very important, but most have exceptions. Missouri Rules of Profession Conduct - RULE 4-1.6: CONFIDENTIALITY OF INFORMATION (a) A lawyer shall not reveal information relating to the representation of a client unless the client gives informed...
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    MO - Six Mohler family members for child sex crimes, Bates City 2009 #2

    Nope, we were in Columbia, where Jared Mohler lives, just a few years ago. Never been to Bates City. Not sure I want to go there anytime soon.
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    MO - Six Mohler family members for child sex crimes, Bates City 2009 #2

    I haven't lived in Columbia for almost 5 years, but I lived right over in his part of town. Interestingly, two of my children went to a preschool down the road from the Comm. of Christ Church, where J. Mohler was an active member and lay preist. I haven't thought about the school thing. Only...
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    MO - Six Mohler family members for child sex crimes, Bates City 2009 #2

    I used to live, with my three children, less than a quarter mile as the crow flys, from Jared Mohler's residence in Columbia. ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!
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    MO - Six Mohler family members for child sex crimes, Bates City 2009 #2

    http://www.kansascity.com/637/story/1580475.html Ugh. 65 video tapes recovered from Jared Mohler's home in Columbia, MO. More charges expected today. Getting a little too big now to just be a vendetta.
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=379297 This is KRCG's timeline of what happened. "Later that night, courtroom testimony revealed Bustmante's family drove her to St. Louis and checked her into a psychiatric hospital." ??????
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    Well I don't think they were trying to skip town, either. It's just very odd that a crisis erupts in the home where a missing child was last seen, and LE let the family leave the home. I know they would have been dealing with a juvenile at that time, but don't you think LE should have at least...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    My final remark before i go back to getting some work done. The father of the teen who knew, heard Alyssa, say she wanted to know what its like to kill someone, is disturbing, and this is one of the lessons I will take away from this. Apparently some people close to Alyssa knew of her...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    FWIW - I am on a SSRI, have been through several, and with the current med Effexor, if i miss more than a day for some reason, i get noticeably more moody, but I am aware of it, and would never let things get out of control. I was writing something else about how depressed Alyssa my have been...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #10

    I find it pretty significant that Alyssa was wisked away to a psychiatric facility later on the night of the murder. First, because it shows ILC was pretty full of crap, and obviously trying to muddy the waters, and Second, because the GP had some inkling of something very wrong with her...

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