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Wouldn't that be acknowledging the authority of the government? Ha Ha!

Most newer cars these days use a key fob. If VB had her key fob in her pocket when she was removed from the car, the car would not move if they tried to drive it somewhere. I believe this is part of what didn't go as planned. I'm sure there was adrenaline racing during the attacks, the perps...

You know that's a good point. I wonder if the key fob somehow got lost (or thrown) in the struggle and they were not able to drive the car?

Or rehab

Shouldn't the preliminary cause of death be released by now?

Agree - IMO the anvil plan was actually a lot more solid than this plan they came up with. Like the previous poster, I also wonder what didn't go according to plan. My guess is the women fought back more than they anticipated. Possibly Jillian was able to access her firearm. They could...

Regarding the boat, I live in OKC and it is still a little cold to take the boat out. Most boat owners don't start taking their boats out until early May. The air temps can get into the upper 80s, but the water temp is still cold and the spray coming off the boat would chill you quickly. And...

Is it possible shots were fired while the vehicle was moving? Like one car pulled along side the other and fired into the driver's window? I have no idea how hard this would actually be do accomplish. It happens all the time in movies. Ha Ha. FWIW - I don't think the assailant drove the car...

I wondered this too...Was JK's job a paid gig? Or was this a type of ministry she did?

This is more just curiosity on my part - Would Jilian have been paid to accompany Veronica? Or was child supervision a type of ministry she performed? It does not seem that the two were friends, just acquaintances.

Like they used the car the children WOULD be in as "bait" and the women stopped thinking they would do the exchange on the side of the road. When they stopped, two perps came on each side of the vehicle, did the deed, and removed the bodies.

I also cannot fathom why these women would stop at this location. I keep think the car had to have been placed there, but if so, why? There are plenty of more rural places to hide (or sink) a car. If it was placed there, the perps wanted it to be found.

There had to be something major with the scene to trigger that kind of police presence. If it were just an abandonded car, the police would have put an "orange sticker" on the window to indicate the car had been checked and needed to be moved. Even if it were an abandoned car with a shattered...

I do not think whatever happened (abduction or murder) happened where the car was found. If the women were killed, think about how hard it is to move the "dead weight" into another vehicle. It would take at least two people. It just seems too risky to kill two people, wrestle the bodies out...

And if that's the case, it may be difficult to get a location of "last cell ping". Don't they do that by triangulating off the nearest three towers or something like that?

I wonder about the fuel levels in the car. Maybe - just maybe - if the women fueled up before leaving home, LE can determine if they made it to their destination by the amount of fuel used.

I am glad the roommate was so proactive in contacting Caleb's parents. It is same with Laken Riley's roommate in contacting the police. As much as the younger generation is disparaged, these are two instances where young people did the right thing. Praying for his safe return.

I can't believe they didn't redact Donna's phone number!

Since Rashbaum is familiar with the case and (I would assume) has already reviewed and catalogued the evidence, I think it might be less expensive for DA to retain him as her lawyer and then hire a local co-counsel. I know the Adelson's are wealthy, but Charlie's trial had to take a lot out of...

re: the owl shirt. I don't think it's a signal or anything. Assuming she knew the significance of the owl, I think it's similar to putting on your favorite team's shirt on game day.