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With all due respect, it may have come up at the inquest & just not have been reported. Even a properly trained journalist who can use short hand is going to report what they believe to be the salient points. Additionally, the coroner is likely to have the raw data/evidence in document form; as...

Thank goodness for this verdict; cold comfort for those affected but it may allay some of the more torturous thoughts they’re bound to have had. I hope everybody leaves this family alone to get on with their lives now. Sometimes I think the moderation on websleuths is overly strict but in this...

Bizarre how caravan site owner’s daughter in law reportedly said “that’s Nikki’s phone & Nikki has gone missing” when Penny the owner contacted her. NB wasn’t known to be missing at that point - doesn’t seem credible

Hmm, evidence from members of public a bit jumbled - haven’t found where in sequence of events Penny Fletcher called Susan Jones

LancsLive has a decent live blog which is reporting what is being said by witnesses. Mark Williams-Thomas’ coverage on twitter is casting himself as someone who is more expert than the experts

Standard practice for bodies recovered from water because of potential of jumping to water = drowning conclusion. I’ve explained more fully upthread when this was previously discussed.

Just a general note about the frustration of waiting. Bear in mind that forensic pathologists are also involved in presenting evidence to criminal courts & not just coroners courts. The criminal courts are backed up post pandemic. The agencies involved are dealing with multiple ongoing cases...

PMs of bodies recovered from water are carried out by a forensic pathologist registered by the Home Office as a matter of course because water does not always equal drowning...

Evidence of interested parties to be collated particularly regarding manner of death. Gives parties chance not to fill diaries so they are available. There are probably only about 4 home office registered pathologists covering the North West of England so would imagine they have a lot of other...

This echoes what has been said re inquests upthread in a Lancashire context https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/what-inquest-one-need-held-23885168?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

I really, really hope that the family can be afforded privacy in their grief & be able to hold a funeral away from the mawkish glare of press & public

This is going to be a bit of a speculative ramble & I’m submitting as a thinking point rather than trying to inflame. There has been criticism of police revealing menopause difficulties but I wonder if this has been a short hand/lay way of signaling Menopause Associated Psychosis(MAP). In...

I wouldn’t expect a tribute before formal ID & don’t think it’s a courtesy to contact the family when the police have asked for privacy. I’d expect any official tributes to be issued via the police. I think it’s a shame that the police didn’t host an appeal from the family at the outset when...

Amazingly, yes

THey didn’T have Libby’s in database, they were taken from her possessions. Quicker/cheaper than DNA but can’t always be done because of degloving of skin

Pathologist couldn’t conclusively say asphyxia or drowning

Regarding ID of a body that has been submerged in water, Libby Squire was positively identified via fingerprints; public confirmation was made approximately 29 hours after her body was recovered (found approx 3pm Wed, ID confirmed to press 8pm Thurs). Libby was recovered at Grimsby & had to be...

Despite thinking absence of evidence didn’t mean evidence of absence & that Occam’s Razor would prove to be the case, I’d been increasingly hopeful since the perimenopause revelations that Nicola may have taken time out. So sad for her family but thankful that she has been found. S

Fashion yourself a tin foil helmet & embrace the time-saving!

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