Australia Australia - Gerard Ross, 11, Rockingham, WA, 14 Oct 1997

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Hi Mo Joe - the only other case mentioning show laces used to hang a person is the Romauld Zac case. Will look for link. MOO

http://murderinhospital.com/story.html
I thought the same, but alas can't remember it. I think it might be in an Australian crime book or a fictional novel I once read. I've tried google, but have only come up with this Jack Heath novel called Hangman. So google isn't much good.
Book sounds interesting though. Has anyone read it?
https://youtu.be/AurulqW6qrA

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I thought the same, but alas can't remember it. I think it might be in an Australian crime book or a fictional novel I once read. I've tried google, but have only come up with this Jack Heath novel called Hangman. So google isn't much good.
Book sounds interesting though. Has anyone read it?
https://youtu.be/AurulqW6qrA

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Thanks petedavo. Definitely haven't read it. I'm still trying to recall the other case with the shoe laces. I thought it was a child or young person. Kylie Maybury perhaps?

Similarities between cases, reminds me of the female toddler Rahma el-Dennaoui who went missing from her bedroom in NSW (never to be seen again). The screen on the window had been cut apparently. I read somewhere that the screen on the bedroom window of Renee Aitken Narooma NSW aged 5 (never to be seen again) had also been cut. As well as suspicion of a perp having access through bedroom window when kidnapping another female child from Victoria (also vanished into thin air)? From memory only. Sorry to go off track, but sometimes it's the similar details that stand out. That's why it's helpful when such information is released, or, investigative journalists spend time writing about these unsolved cases.
 
Thanks petedavo. Definitely haven't read it. I'm still trying to recall the other case with the shoe laces. I thought it was a child or young person. Kylie Maybury perhaps?

Similarities between cases, reminds me of the female toddler Rahma el-Dennaoui who went missing from her bedroom in NSW (never to be seen again). The screen on the window had been cut apparently. I read somewhere that the screen on the bedroom window of Renee Aitken Narooma NSW aged 5 (never to be seen again) had also been cut. As well as suspicion of a perp having access through bedroom window when kidnapping another female child from Victoria (also vanished into thin air)? From memory only. Sorry to go off track, but sometimes it's the similar details that stand out. That's why it's helpful when such information is released, or, investigative journalists spend time writing about these unsolved cases.
There appears to be a lot of people engaging in criminal activities against children. Another example pops into the media today.
https://twitter.com/petedavo_au/status/979703601885949952
https://twitter.com/NicPerpitch/status/979575160201084928
https://twitter.com/NicPerpitch/status/979603881901531137
https://twitter.com/jamescarmody95/status/979632435540385792
https://twitter.com/commnewsgroup/status/979598778738110464
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Talking of alleged offences against children, does anyone know whether this has been to trial as yet?
https://www.pressreader.com/australia/the-west-australian/20170502/281848643501869
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Talking of alleged offences against children, does anyone know whether this has been to trial as yet?
https://www.pressreader.com/australia/the-west-australian/20170502/281848643501869
f79fee10d1d6f73112cc1bd00198c8dc.jpg


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Hi Petedavo - having trouble with posting messages on WS. This is a link to the media release after the arrest for child abuse in Cloverdale.


https://www.police.wa.gov.au/Media-Centre/Media-Releases/2146-TASKFORCE-MIRZAM--CHILD-ABUSE-CHARGES
 
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14041163
[h=3]Six years to build evidence[/h]Eight senior members of the clan were arrested on Thursday in NSW, South Australia and Western Australia, NSW Police said in a statement on Friday.
Detectives say it's taken six years to gather the DNA, forensic and witness evidence required to charge the core members.
The family matriarch, Betty Colt, is one of the alleged ringleaders to be flown into Sydney from Adelaide on Friday evening after NSW Police successfully sought the extradition of all six interstate suspects.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/colt-family-eight-charged-with-sex-abuse-incest
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/colt-family-eight-charged-with-sex-abuse-incest
 
Two more men and another woman were also arrested in the Northam area of Western Australia.

A 36-year-old man was charged with four counts of sexual intercourse with a child under 10, two counts of indecent assault and having sexual intercourse with a child aged between 10 and 14.

A 48-year-old man was charged with sexual intercourse with a child under 10 while a 51-year-old woman was charged with perjury.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/one-family-accused-of-ongoing-child-abuse-ng-b88797356z

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Two more men and another woman were also arrested in the Northam area of Western Australia.

A 36-year-old man was charged with four counts of sexual intercourse with a child under 10, two counts of indecent assault and having sexual intercourse with a child aged between 10 and 14.

A 48-year-old man was charged with sexual intercourse with a child under 10 while a 51-year-old woman was charged with perjury.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/one-family-accused-of-ongoing-child-abuse-ng-b88797356z

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Petedavo, I didn't know about this "clan" as they have chosen to call them. Could have walked past them in the street many times as that's very very close to where we live! How many more of these disgusting people are out there, and calling themselves "parents"??? Pity the poor children as they now face going into "the system"!
 
Hi all - just been reading entire thread. I don't have any investigation or theories to add, but I also lived in Rockingham for many years. I had a house on Kent st not far from GRs abduction point. So if I can help with any memories of the area etc, I'll try. Life changed a lot for me with GR loss. I was working full time at the time and had two young children in school, so I actually quit work due to it all. I've also lived in the caravan park at the end of Kent, and I'm pretty sure circus people never stayed there. They've always stayed on site at their circus (animals to care for etc).
 
Hi all - just been reading entire thread. I don't have any investigation or theories to add, but I also lived in Rockingham for many years. I had a house on Kent st not far from GRs abduction point. So if I can help with any memories of the area etc, I'll try. Life changed a lot for me with GR loss. I was working full time at the time and had two young children in school, so I actually quit work due to it all. I've also lived in the caravan park at the end of Kent, and I'm pretty sure circus people never stayed there. They've always stayed on site at their circus (animals to care for etc).
Welcome to the thread.
I only have 2 questions.
Do you remember where the circus set up?
Do you remember anything about an alleged altercation leading to a death on someone's front lawn on Kent St some years before Gerard Ross disappeared?

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Welcome to the thread.
I only have 2 questions.
Do you remember where the circus set up?
Do you remember anything about an alleged altercation leading to a death on someone's front lawn on Kent St some years before Gerard Ross disappeared?

Thanks. I’m still over trying to catch up the CSK too, but I’ve run into data problems again, so I’m restricted until tomorrow again.
Circuses over the years, have either set up where they do now cnr Patterson Rd & Flinders Ln. It was just a big oval opposite a hall, before the ‘flashiness’ of today. Or, I think around that time, they were often setting up on Dixon Road. I wonder if council keeps records on who set up where? I saw a photo and news link to a ringleader/master wrt GR, and I wonder if it was Damien Syred. I think it was (didn’t pay too much attention at the time). Damien is from the area originally (well Bunbury I think from memory), so it was probably really close to home for him, hence his pleas for info.
I don’t remember a death on Kent St lawn. I remember something along those lines in Lewington street (or possibly Jecks now I look at the map). I didn’t own that house at the time. I wish I’d asked the guy I’d bought the house off all the goings on though. He’d probably be deceased by now I’d say.
Altercations on lawns are not an unusual going on there [emoji51][emoji50].....it attracted nightclub overflow and some revolting people. Very sad, as when I first moved to the area in 1987 it was like a sleepy holiday town. In fact I was down there in the 70s on holiday a lot too. Another thing I always heard over the years as how the area was a rehoming ground for pedos. Many strange incidents have happened in the toilets along there too. One recently (well probably before I left) was a bloke hiding in the females when a little girl went in...shudder.
I’ll try think harder about the Kent st altercation....but I wonder if it was the adjacent streets incident that got morphed into happening in Kent?



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The Facebook Page of "Leave A Light On inc" has just put up a story on the murder of 12 year old Denise McGregor. She was abducted from near shops 1978. There was a possible attempted strangulation with shoe laces, before her head was bashed in with a rock or similar. Apparently DNA is available for comparison in this Victorian case!
Can someone please remind me (us) where I recall hearing of shoelaces and attempted strangulation before? TIA

Sidebar:

Denise McGregor’s WS’ thread here:

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...ed-amp-murdered-Pascoe-Vale-Vic-20-March-1978
 
Welcome to the thread.
I only have 2 questions.
Do you remember where the circus set up?
Do you remember anything about an alleged altercation leading to a death on someone's front lawn on Kent St some years before Gerard Ross disappeared?

Thanks. I’m still over trying to catch up the CSK too, but I’ve run into data problems again, so I’m restricted until tomorrow again.
Circuses over the years, have either set up where they do now cnr Patterson Rd & Flinders Ln. It was just a big oval opposite a hall, before the ‘flashiness’ of today. Or, I think around that time, they were often setting up on Dixon Road. I wonder if council keeps records on who set up where? I saw a photo and news link to a ringleader/master wrt GR, and I wonder if it was Damien Syred. I think it was (didn’t pay too much attention at the time). Damien is from the area originally (well Bunbury I think from memory), so it was probably really close to home for him, hence his pleas for info.
I don’t remember a death on Kent St lawn. I remember something along those lines in Lewington street (or possibly Jecks now I look at the map). I didn’t own that house at the time. I wish I’d asked the guy I’d bought the house off all the goings on though. He’d probably be deceased by now I’d say.
Altercations on lawns are not an unusual going on there [emoji51][emoji50].....it attracted nightclub overflow and some revolting people. Very sad, as when I first moved to the area in 1987 it was like a sleepy holiday town. In fact I was down there in the 70s on holiday a lot too. Another thing I always heard over the years as how the area was a rehoming ground for pedos. Many strange incidents have happened in the toilets along there too. One recently (well probably before I left) was a bloke hiding in the females when a little girl went in...shudder.
I’ll try think harder about the Kent st altercation....but I wonder if it was the adjacent streets incident that got morphed into happening in Kent?



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Thanks. That clarifies some of the media reports of suspects which I was finding difficult to verify. The gentleman with the toy planes, who's house had a death out the front of years before. I assumed was on Kent St, but after what you said, it would seem to confirm what others had said that the suspects mentioned by the articles may of lived around the corner.
Googling Lewington St I found hits in ancestry databases of an Italian family with residences on Kent St, Lewington St and at the Palm Beach Caravan Park, and Pingelly going back to the 1930's, so it seems possible that other families owned multiple residences in that small area too, which confirms the media articles about the suspect with the model planes living in a house owned by his parents who lived in another house.
Many thanks. Given me goods leads to follow up.

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If that little boy was not sexually assaulted, I can imagine that it was a relatively young man who was just a sadist, and had tortured animals and wanted to go that one step further. That is not to say that he did not get some sexual satisfaction out of it. A budding paedophile who could not face that he was attracted to little boys (or even any males) who wanted to punish them for attracting him. Like some men kill prostitutes?
 
I came across this article a while ago about a child being offered a lift in Mount Claremont early in 1998. Significance in the timing a few months after GR went missing.

"The boy told police the car might have been a Falcon and gave them part of a registration number.
It had tinted windows, a wind deflector and a tow-bar with spikes to take a bike rack.

The driver was in his late 20s, had dark olive skin and spoke with a heavy accent, possibly Indian. "


https://web.archive.org/web/1998011...u:80/current_issue/news/98_01_10/abducter.htm

http://www.postnewspapers.com.au:80/current_issue/news/98_01_10/abducter.htm
 

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