04/22/2013 - waiting for rebuttal to continue

[Nhic]

Exactly! Keynote Speaker does not = Keynote Breakout Speaker. It's a much bigger deal. People will attend a seminar or lecture to hear just the keynote speaker, it's like a guest speaker. They had them in my field conferences too. Alyce was just part of a panel afterwards, much smaller audience, and she was on the same level as everyone else on her panel.

IMO she tends to inflate herself. Little self-confidence? Damaged ego? Hmm

She also has on her CV that she's testified in criminal cases on behalf of men. JM quickly pointed out that lie to the jury. :floorlaugh:

 

[aa9511]

So I read the article. Flabbergasting. Sickening really. Sorry... I'm just one of those people who speak my mind.

There is a section on this forum that highlights bullying. Online bullying - in particular. We've all read the recent accounts. They're heartbreaking. Rational adults speak against it. No one considers the slander, horrific and even threatening comments by online bullies as "free speech". I'm lost as to why that could even be a question???

Regardless of what someone things of Jodi Arias - Alyce LaViollette is a hero. She's a woman who's dedicated her life to highlighting domestic abuse. Changing the way society thinks about it. Creating programs that address the problem.

I'm a woman who was never abused. Independent, headstrong (but funny) and very self-aware.

My sister is not.

Today I live with her after a terrible incident that ended 10 years of domestic violence and abuse. The kind that would make most people's hair stand on end. She was battered, raped, degraded and broken in every way you can break a human being. She escaped one night with her kids when her husband tried to kill them all. I came - the big sister. Moved in - helped and stayed and am still helping.

We went through the court process while her (now ex) was charged, tried, convicted and sentenced. The sentence never undid the harm. It never will.

The day Alyce LaViolette took the stand I listened. 5 minutes in - I ran to get my sister. She had to hear what this woman was saying. We stayed glued to the trial during her testimony. We have her book on order at our local book store (currently sold out).

What my sister learned from that testimony was more than she learned from 4 years of reading, therapy, talking, discussing, trying to work things out in her own head and heart.

The trial part - the Jodi Arias issues - they all faded into the background.

I know there are many others out there - abused and abuser alike who heard all that and maybe, just maybe are beginning to understand abuse a bit better.

I don't know Ms Arias. I wasn't present in that bathroom. I don't know what happened. The Prosecutor doesn't either. Nor does Ms Wilmot, nor Kurt Nurmie, nor the doctors who testified, nor the friends, family, police officers. They're all just doing their best to give their insight in the course of justice.

But I do know this. Alyce is an amazing woman. SHE'S not on trial. SHE didn't kill anyone. She gave her professional opinion, in a court of law - and she is certainly entitled to do so - without expecting harm to come to her. I hope she can put the bullies behind her and I wish her all the strength.

Actually, I don't think the people on here hate LaViolette or something like that. In fact, I found her to be genuine at times (like for instance when she was talking about her clients and stories she's seen, anytime not talking about Jodi specifically). Now in the rest of the world, I don't know, I personally haven't read articles about her or gone to her website or anything.
I understand your point, however Alyce has a stage to talk about domestic violence issues - she does conferences and writes books, etc.. This was not a stage for LaViolette. She was there for a specific purpose, which was to objectively look at Jodi and Travis' relationship to see if there was abuse. IMO, she didn't do that...she took the courtroom as her stage. Well, yes, she has done a lot for women, but in this trial there is a victim who was slaughtered to death, and we have to remember that. The trial is about finding the truth about what happened to him, not how much Alyce has done for women.

 

[MistyM]

i think the reason why people really dislike ALV is because of what she said about travis. it was like when she spoke his name you could feel a hate in her towards him and she had never even met the guy.

dr. samuels didn't get as much hate because he was just a bumbling mess on the stand and obviously liked jodi and was a hired gun.

alice had some other motive to this. besides making alotta money and promoting her book. i could never say the things she said about travis without great shame. that's not right.

i don't think she should be stalked or harrassed, but i do think she should really reflect on how her life experiences have made her so biased against men in general.

 

[Nezumi]

are you guys being good in here ???!!! :nurse:

(late april fool's day joke! :giggle

but seriously you ARE BEING good right?:rocker:

We're always good! Just not always well behaved. :blushing:

 

[AngelWings444]

yes or no lil buddy! yes or no! Judge can you make lil buddy answer this question? :lol:

What's your definition of "good"?

NO, what's YOUR definition of "good"????

 

[joypath]

Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but I found something interesting: I finally got around to reading the autopsy and saw it states that TA's "pubic hair has previously been shaved". I went back and looked at the photo of him on the bed, and it could be true. Anyway, I doubt it was shaved by the medical examiner as part of the autopsy. What do you think?

I know I'm making a sweeping judgement here, but I think most men would not shave 'down there' unless it was specifically requested. Seems like maybe JA was the little pedo in this relationship!

BBM

:twocents::twocents::twocents: Removal of ALL pubic hair is NOT routinely performed as part of a post mortem examination of either gender. Combing of the hair IS done as part of the sexual assault kit protocol (even if it has been performed at another site). Plucking of at least 25-50 pubic hairs WILL be performed as part of the microscopic comparison technique, if needed.

:seeya: Just an anecdotal note but we are seeing more cases where the younger (under 60, that is!) decedents are smooth & sleek, I'm guessing that personal hygiene, preference and the effects of the media are causing the change in "manscaping" :blushing:

 

[deedee21]

Or, because she wrote things that would incriminate her. Her journals with ripped out pages are another thing she has in common with Casey Anthony, scary!!! Gas cans too!

Do you know when Walmart emplyee will be coming into court? Or who testifies tomorrow?

 

[InALandFarFarAway]

This is one of my favorite pics of Travis. That "oh gosh" look on his face, and how he seems to just be in awe of life.


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I actually said out loud, "Awwwwwwwwwwww!!"

 

[TexMex]

Except for a person with PTSD actually avoids discussion and remembering the incident What did JA do? She went to memorial service, asked the roommate to take her by the crime scene, wrote a letter to the grandmother and sent flowers, created a memorial to TA on her facebook or myspace page, asked to see the autopsy photos, gave media interviews, etc.....

What did she do to avoid the traumatic incident?

True that!

She also bought a gun and had knives in her car when arrested!

 

[Caylee Advocate]

How in the world can an itinerant waitress afford an Infinity?! :scared:

Maybe she was into webcam stripping, or 900 sex talk????????? She was certainly getting money somewhere.:moo:

 

[BeachGirlFromPA]

My heart breaks for JA's younger brother. That poor kid looks like he's aged 30 years. I sincerely feel so badly for him. Seeing him in the courtroom was heartwrenching.

 

[LambChop]

And she's drawn her in the nude.

The worst part is that her defense team sits there while she is drawing these pictures and does nothing. Absolutely nothing to stop her.

 

[katiedid2]

That really sucks :tsktsk:. My grumpy cat avatar is me right now after reading your post. I really hope your brother is wrong (sorry for saying that....and it's meant with all due respect).

She would still be a convicted felon even if she got manslaughter.?

 

[Mellinyce]

Walmart and Tesoro....cannot wait!!!

:great:

Like I posted earlier...the walmart cashier could not have given her any monies in return without a receipt being signed by JA and the cashier or the cashier would come out short on her register at end of shift..period..IT'S HOW IT'S DONE...ALL stores that you return an item to for cash back or credit back MUST BE VALIDATED with signature on the original receipt or that cashier WILL come out SHORT on his/her register! That is grounds for dismissal as it will seem as they are stealing from the company/store.

 

[YESorNO]

are you guys being good in here ???!!! :nurse:

(late april fool's day joke! :giggle

but seriously you ARE BEING good right?:rocker:

Absolutly like little angels, are we all :rocker:

 

[LinasK]

I can tell you why I think Alyce Laviollette is a disgrace: she sold out. A woman claiming to devote her life to domestic violence education and therapy decides to champion a lying, manipulative, premeditated murderer. She decides to "diagnose" a dead man with pedophilia--based on JODI ARIAS' WORD. She "diagnoses" abuse by Travis Alexander--by JODI ARIAS' WORD.

She decides to take payment for pontificating that JODI ARIAS IS THE VICTIM and TRAVIS ALEXANDER IS THE PERPETRATOR after looking at the crime scene photos.

The only believable reason Alyce Laviolette would ever look at this case and determine it to be "self defense" by "battered women's syndrome" is because she needed the cash.

JMOO

ALV even blurted out on the stand unsolicited that her retirement fund wasn't good. That tells you she testified solely for the money.
And I am proud to state that I am a Liberal Feminist!!!

 

[Isabelle]

What's up in court tomorrow. Last week is a 'fog' in light of recent events!

 

[KandyKane]

:facepalm: I have to go back to watch trial videos.......

What was stuck in her widget in her backside photo wasn't discussed during the trial. Just go look at that photo and it's plain as day that she has a tootsie roll stuck in her widget in that photo. It can be clearly seen with one's own eyes. Doesn't matter whatever other pieces of candy they might have had fun sticking in her widget as far as that photo goes. Knowing what we know about Jodi she was probably willing to go through the fridge, the tool box, the medicine cabinet, etc. and would stick anything that fit in there since it was sex that she used to ensnare and try to keep a man.

Since she was losing at keeping Travis she just tried ever more kinky sex stuff as a way to attempt to keep him. Ironically, her introducing more and more kinky sex into the relationship probably had a lot to do with him believing she wasn't marriagable material. If it's one thing I've learned about men through my adult life is that they want the kinkiest woman in their bed, yet the more they fill their sexual fantasies the less they want to bring them home to meet Mom.

 

[hip2bl7]

Shaving "down there" is definitely a request I make of my s.o., but my guy friends also say they shave down there routinely. It is a cultural norm now.

Hmm...might have to check that out.

 

[DAWN TREADER]

When this is all over and Jodi Arias is no longer the center of attention I hope the Alexander siblings will consider writing a book so the true story of what a remarkable young man Travis Alexander was can be told.

:rose: