100 questions from the jury: Arias answering on her 17th day on the stand #78

[paperwing]

This is hard to describe and dont get me wrong because I agree that any form of abuse is not acceptable. Not even 1, but

The thing that is crazy to me is even if we assume that Travis did what Jodi said as far as the physical abuse, it seems like it wasnt enough for her to claim that she honestly felt her life was threatened.

If I remember what she said, I think she said he
-grabbed my arm once
-tackled me once
-he banged his own head on the wall in other room

So even if these things are true, then how in the world could she honestly feel her life was threatened while he was in the shower and she dropped camera?

It just makes no sense to me at all.
I guess I am basing this on real cases of when woman have really been abused, there usually is much more history of the abuse and not just 1 time.

Her story just wreaks of lying because of this to me.

Please dont get me wrong because I definitely agree that no amount of abuse is forgiven and if a guy or girl is hit by their SO then they should leave them and file a police report and get them arrested.

Its just that her story doesnt sound credible with the 1 or 2 times she says she was hurt by him physically. Here again, I think maybe the incidents were actually either rough sex play or just horsing around and she got accidentally hurt. And now she brings these honest incidents up and twists them around.

I absolutely get your point. Just to play devil's advocate for a second, suppose Travis did bang his head, grab her arm, tackled her.

She lived 100s of miles away from him, and was not in an abusive relationship.

If he did those things (he didn't) - they're wrong and no excuses should be made for them. They do not add up to making someone fear for their lives AND get near that person - when they're miles away and have no meaningful link anymore. You still can't butcher someone because he's a creep.

I don't believe Travis did any of these things either. Might he have insulted JA? Sure. Might he have gotten angry? I would have! Her story is not just false, it's cruel.

jmv.

 

[christee]

Do you really think that's helping? :what: I mean really!!

Now now, you're a big boy, and very capable of handling yourself in tight situations!
:yesss:

I'm just here to keep things rolling along!
:skip:

 

[Gypsy Road]

Sorry, I guess I somehow missed the question you wanted answered.

I would love to see a business record from Walmart showing that there were no returns of gas cans that day. That would probably be enough, but just for good measure I'd also like to see a record that Jodi made three gas purchases with her credit card at that gas station in SLC.

Minor4,
If I have this correctly - She made 3 separate transactions at the SLC Utah gas station within minutes of each other. Juan did the math and showed that the 3rd transaction worked out math-wise (price of gas at the time) equaled 5 gallons worth of gas. I don't know how to bring over a screen shot from the last trial thread, but there is a screen shot of her bank summary that shows these transactions. Go to post #3057 to see the screen shot, and you will see the 3 transactions. It's pretty convincing that JA did have a 3rd gas can.

ETA - Can somebody who knows what they are doing bring a screen shot of her bank summary over?

 

[TartLemon]

Were Travis' siblings aware of Jodi in his life?

Anybody?

:tantrum:

 

[SevenSeas]

The whole gas can filling issue in SLC proves she did have 3 gas cans which proves she's beenLYING about how many gas cans she had, her returning that one $12 gas can to Walmart and basically to show she's a LIAR. Now why she filled up those gas cans AGAIN in SLC is just one more notch in the bedpost of her sociopathic planning. It will be interesting to see how Nurmi tries to squirm outta that one.

Thank you my dear KCL! You always have the goods and 411! I can't wait for the MM tye-in. I'm pretty sure we're going to hear about him again soon... It's too "downpat"

 

[Steely Dan]

What a great way to end the day. Way to go JM! Now we have to wait until Wednesday. Now Jodi has five days to sit and stew about how much she screwed up in cross today. I'm ecstatic as I bet this is what will mainly be on the minds of the jurors until Wednesday; Juan's cross and more of Jodi's lies.

I don't understand other then to show Jodi's a liar, what the significance is of the 3 gas cans. I know she's using them as an excuse about the cost of gas or possibly running out of gas in the desert but really that's pathetic. Am I missing something?? She could have saved herself some money by taking her own car (she was afraid someone would recognize it) and spent the bit extra on gas purchases. When I first heard about them I thought Jodi was taking them along with the plan of burning TA's house down. I suspected she also took rope to tie him up to the bed, making him believe it was going to be one of her kinky, bizarre sexual fantasies (like how he said he was going to tie her to a tree), then she planned to set his place on fire so there would be no evidence. I bet she stole his money (if he had cash) from his house before leaving. I would be interested to see what other transactions were on her bank statement from the time she left his place until she arrived back home. If there wasn't many, it make me wonder. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a few scenarios up her sleeve on how she was going to kill TA. What an evil B!tch. She deserves to die.

JMO but I really believe the jurors are going to give her the DP. By their questions to her, many seem so apparent they are not buying her BS story. It's like some are trying to trip her up in a lie. The only way I would see them not sentencing her to that is because she has claimed so many times how she was going to, or tried to commit suicide (which again is probably a lie and she doesn't want to die). The jurors may believe she still wants to die and therefore they won't let her have the easy way out or give her what she wants by giving her the DP. It actually makes me sick to watch a couple of videos on Youtube where other inmates claim to like her. uke: I'm hoping she gets the DP and has to sit on death row alone, 23 hours a day for some years before she's fried. Alone is her own wicked mind to recall how evil and sick she really is. I hope they also take away any writing and drawing materials she is allowed. End of rant.

Hurry up Wednesday! :great:

I find it very interesting that Nurmi objected to the third charge by saying there was no proof it was used for gas. JA didn't pick up on this and stayed silent. It wouldn't be easy to make up 19 dollars worth of convenience store stuff like candy bars, soda and whatnot. I'm really surprised she didn't at least try. JMO

 

[MsCharlieChan]

The whole gas can filling issue in SLC proves she did have 3 gas cans which proves she's beenLYING about how many gas cans she had, her returning that one $12 gas can to Walmart and basically to show she's a LIAR. Now why she filled up those gas cans AGAIN in SLC is just one more notch in the bedpost of her sociopathic planning. It will be interesting to see how Nurmi tries to squirm outta that one.

Now she's blaming Walmart. She swears she got her money back (in cash!!!), didn't even use the gas can she bought.

So if Juan can't find evidence that she returned the can, must be that Walmart does sloppy bookkeeping. They're only one of the richest, most regimented companies in America. Not having their sales and accounting records straight is surely the secret to their success. NOT.

 

[Gypsy Road]

I find it very interesting that Nurmi objected to the third charge by saying there was no proof it was used for gas. JA didn't pick up on this and stayed silent. It wouldn't be easy to make up 19 dollars worth of convenience store stuff like candy bars, soda and whatnot. I'm really surprised she didn't at least try. JMO

I know! For realz. Ole Jodi is slipping under the stress I reckon!

 

[Gypsy Road]

Anybody?

:tantrum:

I don't know, but I didn't want you to think you were being ignored!:seeya:

 

[katiecoolady]

I find it very interesting that Nurmi objected to the third charge by saying there was no proof it was used for gas. JA didn't pick up on this and stayed silent. It wouldn't be easy to make up 19 dollars worth of convenience store stuff like candy bars, soda and whatnot. I'm really surprised she didn't at least try. JMO

Except for the fact that one of our very own sleuthers (on the court observer thread) discovered that that gas station ONLY sells gas at the hours she was there making those THREE purchases. Only gas.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Does anyone remember why JA wanted to visit DB on this trip?

It seems to me that JA's trip route itself speaks of premeditation...

She was going (ostensibly) to see Ryan Burns in West Jordan/SLC UT. Yet her route takes her down the CA coast, seeing old boyfriends - just stopping by (??) which is NOT how you get to SLC. And conveniently not telling anyone about anyone else because, "how would it look". No - it kept her under the radar.

Maybe I'm overtired, but I don't recall JA ever giving a reasonable explanation for why she headed down the CA coast. She made quick visits - the whole time was spent in the car, so she wasn't making social visits...

The 'new baby' she was supposed to see - that wasn't prearranged so that clearly wasn't a "destination".

She was on her way to Mesa. Period. I'm drawing a blank about her crashing with anyone... I know she had breakfast with Darryl (got gas cans).

She was simply going to Mesa. Darryl, etc. were stops along the way.

Plus, cash deposits. I rest my case. ha ha j/k

 

[katiecoolady]

The jury question I want to see now is this:

Why weren't you shaking when Juan Martinez was aggressively ripping your made up story to shreds about the gas cans last week?

 

[swedie]

This is hard to describe and dont get me wrong because I agree that any form of abuse is not acceptable. Not even 1, but

The thing that is crazy to me is even if we assume that Travis did what Jodi said as far as the physical abuse, it seems like it wasnt enough for her to claim that she honestly felt her life was threatened.

If I remember what she said, I think she said he
-grabbed my arm once
-tackled me once
-he banged his own head on the wall in other room

So even if these things are true, then how in the world could she honestly feel her life was threatened while he was in the shower and she dropped camera?

It just makes no sense to me at all.
I guess I am basing this on real cases of when woman have really been abused, there usually is much more history of the abuse and not just 1 time.

Her story just wreaks of lying because of this to me.

Please dont get me wrong because I definitely agree that no amount of abuse is forgiven and if a guy or girl is hit by their SO then they should leave them and file a police report and get them arrested.

Its just that her story doesnt sound credible with the 1 or 2 times she says she was hurt by him physically. Here again, I think maybe the incidents were actually either rough sex play or just horsing around and she got accidentally hurt. And now she brings these honest incidents up and twists them around.

She also claimed he choked her once and she lost conscientiousness an he was banging her head on the floor. :floorlaugh: Personally, I think she's full of BS. Most of her claims are verbal abuse. Again, I just don't see her personality type sticking around if she was in an abusive relationship. She's the type who would fight and argue right back and an abusive male generally don't like the type who fight back as it gives them a less powerful feeling. JMHO

 

[AngelWings444]

fftobed: folks. Thanks for another great day, and lots of interesting comments. No trial until Wednesday but maybe we can all use a break from being Jodified and Nurminumbed.

Have a good night everyone.

Heading to bed. Goodnight everyone. I will sleep better knowing JA is never getting out of prison.

Hugs, prayers and justice for the family of Travis Alexander. lease:

Steely Dan - it's about time you wake up! On second thought, keep taking those naps. :seeya:

 

[christee]

Anybody?

:tantrum:

The only reference to this that I recall is TAs grandmother was the only family member to meet Jodi, but I'm probably confused about that.
Yes...now that I think some more I'm fairly certain I'm confused. :biggrin:

 

[Peepers McPeep]

Midnight, The ball has ended..
I found a lovely glass platform shoe, tho...
Guess I'll take it to the WS lost and found dept.
Size 11 1/2 Left foot.

 

[Morning Glory]

Now she's blaming Walmart. She swears she got her money back in cash, didn't even use the gas can she bought.

So if Juan can't find evidence that she returned the can, must be that Walmart does sloppy bookkeeping. They're only one of the richest, most regimented companies in America. Not having their sales and accounting records straight is surely the secret to their success. NOT.

There would have to be some electronic record of the scanning of the can to enter it back into inventory and process a return, which also means it would have to have original SKU's or stickers, untampered or used. Also, if none of this was done, not only does it beg the question of how the can would be entered back into inventory, but there would be a reprimand on record for that cashier's till being $12.96 under. (Yeah, I did some retail in my high school days, haha.)

I suspect she mentions getting her return in cash constantly because she feels that makes it more difficult to record her transaction as a return would otherwise be visible on her credit or debit card however a return would still be electronically processed on WalMart's end.

 

[TartLemon]

Are the smilies supposed to be animated? Mine don't move.

 

[katiecoolady]

For some reason this isn't quoting you Dr. Know...but I sure expected some faux shaking today. faux + shaking = faking?

But she couldn't even overcome her Narcissistic faceoff with Martinez to serve any of that up. And that Jury KNOWS how intense that confrontation was. It was palpable. But not even an eye twitch.

She's burnt toast in the toaster shoved down for a second round still burning at this point.

 

[katiedid2]

So she left Ryan burns at about 4:a.m
Now how is that gonna. Go over with the jury!
Where'd she sleep? Hmmmmmmm did he let her sleep there since she was kind enough to adjust him!
What's her excuse! Next she's gonna say she's
An adjustment specialist
Pleeeeze